Okay so Ferrari are first to launch their 2009 contender. Wow these cars are going to take some getting used to.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 11:35 AM
"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 11:38 AM
Ferrari presents 2009 contender
12 January 2009 / Photos
The Ferrari Formula 1 team presented its new car for the 2009 season on Monday morning. Felipe Massa will complete the first laps with the F60 car later today, at the Mugello circuit in Italy.
The F60, breaking the trend of Ferrari's naming of its car models by the year, is the first contender to be launched ahead of the new season which kicks of in Australia in March. Until yesterday the F60 was to be launched at Ferrari's other test track, Fiorano, until unfavourable weather conditions saw plans altered.
The main differences in comparison to the 2008 car see a higher and wider front wing to meet the rule changes affecting aerodynamics for 2009, as well as a rear wing which is shorter but taller than its predecessor to allow greater airflow and more downforce during races, meaning competitors should be able to run closer together on track and therefore present them with more passing opportunities. The Ferrari is also the first car to be launched doning the Bridgestone slick tyres; this will be the first season the Japanese tyre manufacturer has produced its rubber minus grooves.
The 2009 launches will continue later this week, starting with Toyota who launch their new car on Thursday.
Source: gpupdate.net
12 January 2009 / Photos
The Ferrari Formula 1 team presented its new car for the 2009 season on Monday morning. Felipe Massa will complete the first laps with the F60 car later today, at the Mugello circuit in Italy.
The F60, breaking the trend of Ferrari's naming of its car models by the year, is the first contender to be launched ahead of the new season which kicks of in Australia in March. Until yesterday the F60 was to be launched at Ferrari's other test track, Fiorano, until unfavourable weather conditions saw plans altered.
The main differences in comparison to the 2008 car see a higher and wider front wing to meet the rule changes affecting aerodynamics for 2009, as well as a rear wing which is shorter but taller than its predecessor to allow greater airflow and more downforce during races, meaning competitors should be able to run closer together on track and therefore present them with more passing opportunities. The Ferrari is also the first car to be launched doning the Bridgestone slick tyres; this will be the first season the Japanese tyre manufacturer has produced its rubber minus grooves.
The 2009 launches will continue later this week, starting with Toyota who launch their new car on Thursday.
Source: gpupdate.net
"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 11:46 AM
It's hard to make comment on the 09 spec cars because we really don't have anything to base any observations from. The front wing pylons look different how they sweep forwards.
I can't wait to Thursday now so not only we can see Toyota's take on the new regulations, but to compare and contrast with the F60. Finally F1 is interesting again. Yay
I can't wait to Thursday now so not only we can see Toyota's take on the new regulations, but to compare and contrast with the F60. Finally F1 is interesting again. Yay
Edited by aussief1, 12 January 2009 - 11:47 AM.
"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
Nathan is: .............. ??
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 11:51 AM
Where are all you guys 
???? I thought there you be a few fellow TF1'er online to make comment on the new Ferrari 
It's off to bed for me
???? I thought there you be a few fellow TF1'er online to make comment on the new Ferrari It's off to bed for me
"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
Nathan is: .............. ??
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 11:52 AM
Shut up and grow old! (yeah, yeah...I know...I will start a birthday thread now!)
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Edited by Quiet One, 12 January 2009 - 11:57 AM.
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"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 11:58 AM
Quiet One, on Jan 12 2009, 09:52 PM, said:
Shuut up and grow old! (yeah, yeah...I know...I will start a birthday thread now!)
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Hey Andreas, thanks mate
"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
Nathan is: .............. ??
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 12:12 PM
aussief1, on Jan 12 2009, 11:51 AM, said:
Where are all you guys ???? I thought there you be a few fellow TF1'er online to make comment on the new Ferrari
It's off to bed for me
???? I thought there you be a few fellow TF1'er online to make comment on the new Ferrari It's off to bed for me
Easy tiger, easy
Strange, they say the front wing is 'higher and wider'... looks lower to me (and I thought the regs were just that too?). And yes, we're going to see loads of first-corner-front-wing-flying methinks.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 12:47 PM
medilloni, on Jan 12 2009, 09:12 AM, said:
Easy tiger, easy
Strange, they say the front wing is 'higher and wider'... looks lower to me (and I thought the regs were just that too?). And yes, we're going to see loads of first-corner-front-wing-flying methinks.
Strange, they say the front wing is 'higher and wider'... looks lower to me (and I thought the regs were just that too?). And yes, we're going to see loads of first-corner-front-wing-flying methinks.
Yes! I think is better to change the carbon fiber by rubber....
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 12:57 PM
Was just watching the pics (too small!)
Those are the slicks they gonna use? No big fat ones? What a waste!
Those are the slicks they gonna use? No big fat ones? What a waste!
"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the Universe, and it has a longer shelf life" - Frank Zappa
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 12:57 PM
I like it, generally. I especially like the lack of aero-bits sticking out, now the body looks more like a mid-1990's F1 car.
It would look even better if the rear wing was also wide, but I know that would make overtaking harder.
Is it me or is the nose (from c#ckpit to tip) really long? Cant wait to see all the others now!
It would look even better if the rear wing was also wide, but I know that would make overtaking harder.
Is it me or is the nose (from c#ckpit to tip) really long? Cant wait to see all the others now!
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 01:19 PM
medilloni, on Jan 12 2009, 07:12 AM, said:
Easy tiger, easy
Strange, they say the front wing is 'higher and wider'... looks lower to me (and I thought the regs were just that too?). And yes, we're going to see loads of first-corner-front-wing-flying methinks.
Strange, they say the front wing is 'higher and wider'... looks lower to me (and I thought the regs were just that too?). And yes, we're going to see loads of first-corner-front-wing-flying methinks.
It looks lower to me too, anyway it good to see ferrari lunching the first that the rest, that is the trend for this new season, fisrt in lunching the car, first in testing the new car, first winning with the new car and fisrt in both campionships at the end of the season.
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I just always end up disagreeing with you guys because of all the huge exaggerations, myths, theories & unjustified statements
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I never go with expectations, I go with a target. That is to be at the front, and the ultimate aim to win, which is the mentality I have always gone racing with.
You've got to be on the limit all the time - and I love that, because that's how I love to race.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 01:25 PM
It's going to be hard getting used to, the front wing looks like a snow plow.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:36 PM
I like it. A lot. It bodes well. Nice and curvy. And dart like. So why does the interim BMW look like an updated Panzerkampfwagen?
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:48 PM
It's not so bad as the BMW. In fact I like everything but the rear wing. The height and width make it look like it was designed for something a different car but ran short of time and had to bolt something on. The flow just doesn't match.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:50 PM
pumpdoc, on Jan 12 2009, 01:25 PM, said:
It's going to be hard getting used to, the front wing looks like a snow plow.
I actually like the front wing. Ok, it could do with a bit more finesse(I accept suggestions of a better word to put there XD) but I like it.
And the car looks very nice from the side XD
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:58 PM
monza gorilla, on Jan 12 2009, 01:36 PM, said:
I like it. A lot. It bodes well. Nice and curvy. And dart like. So why does the interim BMW look like an updated Panzerkampfwagen?
I bet Honda's front wing (if they ever get there) will be based on Nick Fry's smile. It will scare the s##t out of whoever has one in their rearview mirrors.
"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the Universe, and it has a longer shelf life" - Frank Zappa
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
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"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 05:29 PM
Do we know why it is called the F60.
Edited by Team Formula One, 12 January 2009 - 05:30 PM.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 05:34 PM
I dislike the nose, but the rest looks lovely to me. Very smart, compact, curvy and other adjectives.
Good stuff.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 05:36 PM
Team Formula One, on Jan 12 2009, 05:29 PM, said:
Do we know why it is called the F60.
We don't, but I do, so I will tell you. It represents that Ferrari have spent each of the 60 years in F1.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 05:37 PM
Thank you for that.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 05:51 PM
Beautiful as always!curvy and sexy I don't dislike the disproportioned wings.
Let's see what Mclaren do,I usually like their car best.
I don't dislike the disproportioned wings.Let's see what Mclaren do,I usually like their car best.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 05:56 PM
Without doubt, the nicest looking car thus far.
Still not keen on the rear wing.
Still not keen on the rear wing.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 05:56 PM
It doesn't look ugly from this angle
Actually it looks beautiful and fast, very fast.
Actually it looks beautiful and fast, very fast.
Kimi Raikkonen: It is the same thing that I said before. I have no interest in driving for a bad team next year. If I race here, I always try to finish as high as I can. I don't need anything to motivate me. If I drive, I drive to do my best and that is it.
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"I get the feeling that Alonso fans tend to heap over-praise on Alonso and bring down Kimi whenever they can, with mere theories and unjustified statements."
I just always end up disagreeing with you guys because of all the huge exaggerations, myths, theories & unjustified statements
Lewis Hamilton:
I never go with expectations, I go with a target. That is to be at the front, and the ultimate aim to win, which is the mentality I have always gone racing with.
You've got to be on the limit all the time - and I love that, because that's how I love to race.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 06:28 PM
Schumikonen, on Jan 12 2009, 02:26 PM, said:
It doesn't look ugly from this angle
Actually it looks beautiful and fast, very fast.
Actually it looks beautiful and fast, very fast.
However......
it doesn't look so nice from this angle.
Edited by shampion, 12 January 2009 - 06:31 PM.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 06:37 PM
Eek! I'm not crazy about that narrow rear wing. I like my race cars with some HIPS! heh. I wonder if that rear wing is mandated by the rules or what.
Edited by rumblestrip, 12 January 2009 - 06:37 PM.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 06:40 PM
shampion, on Jan 12 2009, 04:28 PM, said:
I agree.
However......
it doesn't look so nice from this angle.
However......
it doesn't look so nice from this angle.
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"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 06:43 PM
rumblestrip, on Jan 12 2009, 03:07 PM, said:
Eek! I'm not crazy about that narrow rear wing. I like my race cars with some HIPS! heh. I wonder if that rear wing is mandated by the rules or what.
They will all have similar rear wings my friend.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 06:50 PM
Mock up pictures I've seen suggest that all may not be quite the same height and width.
Edited by Team Formula One, 12 January 2009 - 07:40 PM.
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