Well hot on the heels of the Ferrari F60 launch and yesterdays launch of the Toyota TF109, it's McLarens turn to show off their car which Lewis will defend his crown with, the McLaren Mercedes MP4-24.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 07:30 AM
"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 08:44 AM
I'm so excited!
GO LEWIS! GO JB! GO McLAREN! TOMA!
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aussief1, on Jan 16 2009, 09:30 AM, said:
Well hot on the heels of the Ferrari F60 launch and yesterdays launch of the Toyota TF109, it's McLarens turn to show off their car which Lewis will defend his meaningless crown with, the McLaren Mercedes MP4-24.
I'm so excited too!
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Some ways to be sure you could preach so as to convert nobody: "Let your supreme motive be to secure your own popularity and success. If you preach that way you're not going to say anything to offend and if you don't offend you can't convert anybody. Aim at pleasing for money and sexual favors, rather than correcting for holiness. Let your sermons be literary, flowery, ornate, flowing beautifully so your hearers never remember the lack of content. Be sparing of thought lest your sermon contain enough truth to convert someone. Avoid preaching doctrines that are offensive to the carnal mind. Deal with sin in the abstract and make no allusion to the sins of your audience. Preach salvation by grace but ignore the condemned and lost condition of the sinner, lest he should understand what you mean by grace and sense his need of it. Make no appeal to the fears of sinners, but make the impression that they have no reason to fear, God loves them. Preach the love of God and ignore the holiness of His love. Do not rebuke the worldly tendencies of the church, lest you should hurt their feelings and convert some of them. Select your themes and so present them as to attract and flatter the wealthy, aristocratic, self-indulgent, extravagant, pleasure-seeking classes and you won't convert any of them to the cross-bearing religion of Christ. Ridicule solemn earnestness in pulling sinners out of the fire and recommend by precept or example that jovial, fun-loving religion and sinners will have little respect for serious preaching. Cultivate fastidious tastes in your people by avoiding all disagreeable allusions to the last judgment and final retribution. Treat old and uncomfortable doctrines as obsolete and out of place. And so exhibit religion as to encourage the selfish pursuit of it. Make the impression upon sinners that their own safety and happiness is the supreme motive of being religious. And see to it that you say nothing to any of your hearers to demean him or her, but only what is flattering."
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 10:01 AM
I'm just horny.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 11:27 AM
Quiet One, on Jan 16 2009, 06:31 AM, said:
I'm just horny.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 11:29 AM
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 11:45 AM
Here are a few more angles.
Mp4-24
*Interesting take on the new specs.
Mp4-24
*Interesting take on the new specs.
Edited by shampion, 16 January 2009 - 11:49 AM.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 11:59 AM
This...
http://f1.automoto36...le/mp4_24_2.jpg
...looks like a beautiful nekid woman covered in extra virgin oil. I'm off to toss my salad.
http://f1.automoto36...le/mp4_24_2.jpg
...looks like a beautiful nekid woman covered in extra virgin oil. I'm off to toss my salad.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 12:01 PM
Very smooth, I like the way they have covered the exhaust, the nose cone is very round when compared to the sharper design of the F60 and TF109. The nose cone an wing are almost identical to the test version in late December.
Another thing to note is how small the sidepod air intakes are. They would have to be the smallest ever.
Another thing to note is how small the sidepod air intakes are. They would have to be the smallest ever.
"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 12:10 PM
A few comparisons:
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 12:11 PM
I'm happy to call the MP4-24 the best looking of the three 09 spec cars released.
Looking at the car some more you notice that the rear wing end plates are cut and flicked almost like pre reg change wing end plates. The front wing end plates are very simple, this is one part of the car that I expect alot of development to take place over the winter.
Looking at the car some more you notice that the rear wing end plates are cut and flicked almost like pre reg change wing end plates. The front wing end plates are very simple, this is one part of the car that I expect alot of development to take place over the winter.
"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
Nathan is: .............. ??
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 12:44 PM
shampion, on Jan 16 2009, 02:10 PM, said:
A few comparisons:
I'm going back to my first impressions...the cars are hideous, how on earth am I going to watch F1 this year!!!
Edited by BradSpeedMan, 16 January 2009 - 12:45 PM.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 12:55 PM
We need to save our sport people!!!!!!!!!!!!...the FIA is making a mockery of F1!!!!!!!... We can't have racing with cars that look like toys!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's strike or run naked on the track b4 every race, this humiliation of racing can't continue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's strike or run naked on the track b4 every race, this humiliation of racing can't continue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 01:06 PM
BradSpeedMan, on Jan 16 2009, 07:55 AM, said:
We need to save our sport people!!!!!!!!!!!!...the FIA is making a mockery of F1!!!!!!!... We can't have racing with cars that look like toys!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's strike or run naked on the track b4 every race, this humiliation of racing can't continue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's strike or run naked on the track b4 every race, this humiliation of racing can't continue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's wait for the first race, if Ferrari wins let's forget about this, if not, we'll procede to the run on track naked strike.
Kimi Raikkonen: It is the same thing that I said before. I have no interest in driving for a bad team next year. If I race here, I always try to finish as high as I can. I don't need anything to motivate me. If I drive, I drive to do my best and that is it.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 01:13 PM
Oh no Ron has just stepped back as team principal...........martin whitmarsh is going to be the new team principal of Mclaren effective march1. Ron Dennis will be the executive chairman of the Mclaren group.
GO LEWIS! GO JB! GO McLAREN! TOMA!
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 01:18 PM
Schumikonen, on Jan 16 2009, 03:06 PM, said:
Let's wait for the first race, if Ferrari wins let's forget about this, if not, we'll procede to the run on track naked strike.
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 01:26 PM
BradSpeedMan, on Jan 16 2009, 10:55 PM, said:
We need to save our sport people!!!!!!!!!!!!...the FIA is making a mockery of F1!!!!!!!... We can't have racing with cars that look like toys!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's strike or run naked on the track b4 every race, this humiliation of racing can't continue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's strike or run naked on the track b4 every race, this humiliation of racing can't continue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 09 spec cars don't look the best granted but, if the racing is better as a result i'll take the ugly cars every day of the week.
Now the MP4-24 is a good looking ugly car, agree Brad??? (I know you will say the F60 is better looking
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"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
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aussief1, on Jan 16 2009, 03:26 PM, said:
The 09 spec cars don't look the best granted but, if the racing is better as a result i'll take the ugly cars every day of the week.
Now the MP4-24 is a good looking ugly car, agree Brad??? (I know you will say the F60 is better looking )
Now the MP4-24 is a good looking ugly car, agree Brad??? (I know you will say the F60 is better looking
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“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 02:21 PM
BradSpeedMan, on Jan 16 2009, 09:14 AM, said:
u actually see comparisions??...
I'm going back to my first impressions...the cars are hideous, how on earth am I going to watch F1 this year!!!
I'm going back to my first impressions...the cars are hideous, how on earth am I going to watch F1 this year!!!
They all have tires and shades of red
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 02:50 PM
I am not too sure about running naked around the track...is too bumpy.
I am sure, though, that it is a 2008 spec rear wing...no, wait...wrong building.
I am sure, though, that it is a 2008 spec rear wing...no, wait...wrong building.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 05:38 PM
Not bad! Still can't get used to the rear wing!
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Best car so far.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 09:06 PM
I quite like the look of the Mclaren, it seems that the 09 cars won't be so bad after all.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 08:06 AM
It's moderately pleasing to the eye and an improvement on the F60 and Toyota but change is always hard to swallow. Yet, it's the only positive step we ever take as human beings.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 10:22 AM
Not keen on the front wing, it seems to be stuck on as a afterthought.
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 09:52 AM
I love it.Can't wait to see these toys in movement!And also can't wait to see Brad and co in movement!!! 
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It's moderately pleasing to the eye and an improvement on the F60 and Toyota but change is always hard to swallow. Yet, it's the only positive step we ever take as human beings.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 01:58 AM
With the introduction of KERS devices in 2009 set to make weight-savings ever more sought after, McLaren may have just found an edge over their rivals by finishing their new car in a sophisticated, state-of-the art and crucially lighter chrome film. The unveiling of McLarens new MP4-24 in Woking last week marked the start of a new partnership with Dutch car refinishing company AkzoNobel, which has developed a high-performance Sikkens paint system to be used by Heikki Kovalainen and Lewis Hamilton as the team prepares to defend its 2008 World Drivers title.
Besides being tailor-made to meet the unique technical demands of grand prix racing, the innovative coatings are also believed to constitute a lighter chrome finish, thereby delivering improvements in lap time and performance as weight ballast becomes ever more critical in 2009.
We are delighted to welcome a renowned company such as AkzoNobel into our world-class partner portfolio, said Ron Dennis, Chairman and CEO of McLaren Group. We know that Formula 1 as a sport has a high visual impact and attracts million of viewers around the globe. Since 2006, the unique chrome finish has become our distinctive racing livery, providing us with 14 grand prix victories. We look forward to a long and successful partnership with them.
Added AkzoNobel CEO Hans Wijers: Our coatings expertise is geared towards providing our partners with custom-made technical or performance solutions. This business partnership between two world-class performers is a perfect example of our commitment to continued innovation and Im convinced that together we will prove to be a winning team.
Stringent technical requirements needed to be met before the partnership could be approved, but AkzoNobel shone through. A winning combination of VOC (Volatile Organic Compounds) compliant systems and specialty products helps to optimise the performance, while at the same time producing the striking, all-important chrome finish of the MP4-24.
As well as producing a highly distinctive high chrome finish, the new Sikkens system has also halved the time required to cure the new bodywork parts, vitally speeding up the paint application process.
Pushing technological boundaries is a key part of our product development and were delighted to have provided Vodafone McLaren Mercedes with a superior system which matches their need for performance, speed and precision commented Jim Rees, General Manager of AkzoNobel Car Refinishes.
Martin Whitmarsh, Vodafone McLaren Mercedes CEO Formula 1 said: Working with AkzoNobel we have developed the technical ability to apply specialist coatings to composite materials and various substrates, tackling lighter and more environmentally friendly products. We have already achieved some significant results in this field by reducing the average curing time of bodywork parts to more than a half and lowering the paintshops carbon footprint by up to 80 per cent. We will continue working with AkzoNobel Car Refinishes on further innovations as we investigate coating possibilities for both the cars we use now and the ones we plan to use in the future.
The youngest ever champion in Formula 1 history, Lewis Hamilton will begin the defence of his title in the new Sikkens-coated Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-24 in Australia on March 29.
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I was bored.
Besides being tailor-made to meet the unique technical demands of grand prix racing, the innovative coatings are also believed to constitute a lighter chrome finish, thereby delivering improvements in lap time and performance as weight ballast becomes ever more critical in 2009.
We are delighted to welcome a renowned company such as AkzoNobel into our world-class partner portfolio, said Ron Dennis, Chairman and CEO of McLaren Group. We know that Formula 1 as a sport has a high visual impact and attracts million of viewers around the globe. Since 2006, the unique chrome finish has become our distinctive racing livery, providing us with 14 grand prix victories. We look forward to a long and successful partnership with them.
Added AkzoNobel CEO Hans Wijers: Our coatings expertise is geared towards providing our partners with custom-made technical or performance solutions. This business partnership between two world-class performers is a perfect example of our commitment to continued innovation and Im convinced that together we will prove to be a winning team.
Stringent technical requirements needed to be met before the partnership could be approved, but AkzoNobel shone through. A winning combination of VOC (Volatile Organic Compounds) compliant systems and specialty products helps to optimise the performance, while at the same time producing the striking, all-important chrome finish of the MP4-24.
As well as producing a highly distinctive high chrome finish, the new Sikkens system has also halved the time required to cure the new bodywork parts, vitally speeding up the paint application process.
Pushing technological boundaries is a key part of our product development and were delighted to have provided Vodafone McLaren Mercedes with a superior system which matches their need for performance, speed and precision commented Jim Rees, General Manager of AkzoNobel Car Refinishes.
Martin Whitmarsh, Vodafone McLaren Mercedes CEO Formula 1 said: Working with AkzoNobel we have developed the technical ability to apply specialist coatings to composite materials and various substrates, tackling lighter and more environmentally friendly products. We have already achieved some significant results in this field by reducing the average curing time of bodywork parts to more than a half and lowering the paintshops carbon footprint by up to 80 per cent. We will continue working with AkzoNobel Car Refinishes on further innovations as we investigate coating possibilities for both the cars we use now and the ones we plan to use in the future.
The youngest ever champion in Formula 1 history, Lewis Hamilton will begin the defence of his title in the new Sikkens-coated Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-24 in Australia on March 29.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 07:08 AM
Quiet One, on Jan 16 2009, 02:50 PM, said:
I am not too sure about running naked around the track...is too bumpy cold.
Corrected...
Quiet One, on Jan 16 2009, 02:50 PM, said:
I am sure, though, that it is a 2008 spec rear wing...no, wait...wrong building.
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So a paint job makes a car go quicker.
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"...when I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse... I turned to look but it was gone, I cannot put my finger on it now. The child is grown. The dream is gone..."
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