Shanghai
#1
Posted 15 April 2009 - 10:40 AM
Might a couple more teams surprise us with a new diffuser?
Will Button continue his winning streak?
Is it Barichello's turn?
Could the court case losers be out for blood?
Which other teams will this circuit suit?
#2
Posted 15 April 2009 - 11:06 AM
adamstrags, on Apr 15 2009, 11:40 AM, said:
Okay - I'm bored and this is my 'local' GP so let's be avin ya.
Wish it was mine too, we have an office in Nanjing and I'd love to time a visit there with the GP (well, that's bollocks, I'd be going 'cos the ladies are amazing
Might a couple more teams surprise us with a new diffuser?
Renault, maybe McLaren will take the blanking plates off their first effort to try it out.
Will Button continue his winning streak?
Hope so
Is it Barichello's turn?
Hope not, but he's proven pretty handy here
Could the court case losers be out for blood?
Doubt it Adam, the Piranha Club will just go back to normal
Which other teams will this circuit suit?
Red Bull will be much closer, and maybe Ferrari - if they can avoid another impression of headless chickens again.
"...when I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse... I turned to look but it was gone, I cannot put my finger on it now. The child is grown. The dream is gone..."
#3
Posted 15 April 2009 - 04:55 PM
"There is nothing lower than the human race except the French."
- Mark Twain
#4
Posted 15 April 2009 - 06:14 PM
#5
Posted 15 April 2009 - 06:35 PM
"There is nothing lower than the human race except the French."
- Mark Twain
#6
Posted 15 April 2009 - 06:41 PM
#7
Posted 15 April 2009 - 07:08 PM
TF109_Diffuser, on Apr 15 2009, 07:35 PM, said:
If Toyota do win the race, I'll put on a Manchester United & Ferrari sig picture!
TGLucario - Spread The Speed ... AGAIN

R.I.P. Rocol - Only The Good Die Young
TF109_Diffuser, on Apr 15 2009, 09:49 PM, said:
#8
Posted 15 April 2009 - 07:19 PM
TGLeungd Forever, on Apr 15 2009, 04:08 PM, said:
If Toyota do win the race, I'll put on a Manchester United & Ferrari sig picture!
...and I will put a croissant pic as my avatar!
#9
Posted 15 April 2009 - 07:25 PM
Perhaps some new car bits for Renault? Can't wait for friday practice.
#10
Posted 15 April 2009 - 07:38 PM
TGLeungd Forever, on Apr 15 2009, 08:08 PM, said:
If Toyota do win the race, I'll put on a Manchester United & Ferrari sig picture!
Argento, on Apr 15 2009, 08:19 PM, said:
"There is nothing lower than the human race except the French."
- Mark Twain
#11
Posted 15 April 2009 - 08:46 PM
TF109_Diffuser, on Apr 15 2009, 08:38 PM, said:
Yeah, i'm Serious
I said on another forum, that IF Jenson Button wins the Aussie GP, i'll join their Fantasy Wrestling ... and i've joined
maybe we should do these sorts of bets, it could be fun
TGLucario - Spread The Speed ... AGAIN

R.I.P. Rocol - Only The Good Die Young
TF109_Diffuser, on Apr 15 2009, 09:49 PM, said:
#12
Posted 15 April 2009 - 08:49 PM
TGLeungd Forever, on Apr 15 2009, 09:46 PM, said:
I said on another forum, that IF Jenson Button wins the Aussie GP, i'll join their Fantasy Wrestling ... and i've joined
maybe we should do these sorts of bets, it could be fun
"There is nothing lower than the human race except the French."
- Mark Twain
#13
Posted 15 April 2009 - 11:59 PM
TF109_Diffuser, on Apr 15 2009, 09:49 PM, said:
TGLucario - Spread The Speed ... AGAIN

R.I.P. Rocol - Only The Good Die Young
TF109_Diffuser, on Apr 15 2009, 09:49 PM, said:
#14
Posted 16 April 2009 - 12:42 AM
#15
Posted 16 April 2009 - 05:09 AM
#16
Posted 16 April 2009 - 10:48 AM
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This weekend's Chinese Grand Prix is set to see different cars using KERS. Robert Kubica is expected to test BMW Sauber's system in Friday practice, while Ferrari will run without theirs following problems at the last round in Malaysia.
To date BMW Sauber have only raced KERS on the car of Kubica's much lighter team mate Nick Heidfeld, who suffers less from the weight penalty that comes with using the system. However, with the team believing the layout of the Shanghai circuit could bring benefits even to the Pole, they plan to use Friday's practice sessions to find out.
In contrast, Ferrari have opted to drop their KERS system for the China weekend after the reliability issues that hit Kimi Raikkonen at Sepang, instead choosing to focus on other elements of the F60's performance, which has thus far proved disappointing, failing to bring the world champions a single point.
The other teams that used KERS in Australia and Malaysia - McLaren and Renault - are both expected to continue with their systems in Shanghai.
Source:http://www.formula1....009/4/9180.html

#17
#18
Posted 16 April 2009 - 12:10 PM
By Jonathan Noble and Simon Strang Thursday, April 16th 2009, 08:46 GMT
Double world champion Fernando Alonso is 'very worried' about Bridgestone's decision to bring super-soft compounds as the option tyre for this weekend's Chinese Grand Prix, the Spaniard saying it is entirely unsuited to the abrasive nature of the Shanghai circuit.
The Renault driver claims that the use of the tyre makes the drivers 'look ridiculous' because of the time differential between the option and prime rubber - which was as much as six seconds when the super-soft and hard tyres were used in Australia.
"I think it is the worst decision they made in a long time, because it is a ridiculous tyre for here, for Shanghai," he said.
"I don't know if Bridgestone made the decision or the FIA, but they have to reconsider this type of decision because we look ridiculous on television and we look ridiculous for the spectators, and it is a joke to be in front of TV six seconds slower.
"We will need to change the tyres after five or six laps, is our calculation, because this track is harder than Melbourne and there we only did eight or nine laps.
"And if they want to be funny and mix the results and have overtaking, they can do a better job – a funny solution, maybe they can put us on the wet tyres or something. Like this it looks more spectacular – the difference in the speed. I don't know...
"I'm very worried about this and I'm very sad about this, because we look strange in front of people."
Alonso also revealed that the drivers have not been consulted on which tyres should be used, and added that the Grand Prix Drivers' Association (GPDA) expressed their fears over safety on the issue following the Australian Grand Prix, when Robert Kubica and Sebastian Vettel collided while contesting second place.
"We expressed our concerns after Australia, after the accident of Robert Kubica and Sebastian Vettel – it was due to the difference of the speed," he said.
"He (Kubica) tried to overtake, Vettel was not in control of the car with that tyre, you cannot brake, you cannot turn-in, you cannot do anything. And then Robert had a big crash after that because he damaged the car.
"Then we expressed our concerns and now in the third race we have the same tyre at a worse circuit. This is something that we need to change immediately."
Alonso added that he considered both the super-soft and the hard tyres to be unsuited to Shanghai.
"I think the super-soft on this type of circuit with long, high-speed corners... in Turn 1 it will be destroyed and in Turn 10 there will be no more left tyre.
"One will be too hard and one will be too soft. The right tyre is at home! The soft tyre is at home, and this happened in Australia as well. And the understanding that this is for a better show, for overtaking...
"As I said, for a better show, maybe we can pick up our number and then whoever picks up number 15 can put on wet tyres, or whatever, and it is a better show and it's funny. Like this it is not funny."
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Lewis Hamilton
#19
Posted 16 April 2009 - 12:20 PM
DOF_Renault_BMW, on Apr 16 2009, 09:10 AM, said:
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
#20
Posted 16 April 2009 - 12:21 PM
#21
Posted 16 April 2009 - 12:21 PM
Listening to: Cracker - Kerosene Hat

Dig that jive, Jack. Put it in your pocket, and don't look back.
#22
Posted 16 April 2009 - 12:24 PM
That's the key to a freedom that I'll never understand.
--Shad K., biggest thing out of Canada since Pamela's double Ds.
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
--Mark Twain (1835-1910)
#23
Posted 16 April 2009 - 04:54 PM
DOF_Renault_BMW, on Apr 16 2009, 01:10 PM, said:
By Jonathan Noble and Simon Strang Thursday, April 16th 2009, 08:46 GMT
Double world champion Fernando Alonso is 'very worried' about Bridgestone's decision to bring super-soft compounds as the option tyre for this weekend's Chinese Grand Prix, the Spaniard saying it is entirely unsuited to the abrasive nature of the Shanghai circuit.
The Renault driver claims that the use of the tyre makes the drivers 'look ridiculous' because of the time differential between the option and prime rubber - which was as much as six seconds when the super-soft and hard tyres were used in Australia.
"I think it is the worst decision they made in a long time, because it is a ridiculous tyre for here, for Shanghai," he said.
"I don't know if Bridgestone made the decision or the FIA, but they have to reconsider this type of decision because we look ridiculous on television and we look ridiculous for the spectators, and it is a joke to be in front of TV six seconds slower.
"We will need to change the tyres after five or six laps, is our calculation, because this track is harder than Melbourne and there we only did eight or nine laps.
"And if they want to be funny and mix the results and have overtaking, they can do a better job – a funny solution, maybe they can put us on the wet tyres or something. Like this it looks more spectacular – the difference in the speed. I don't know...
"I'm very worried about this and I'm very sad about this, because we look strange in front of people."
Alonso also revealed that the drivers have not been consulted on which tyres should be used, and added that the Grand Prix Drivers' Association (GPDA) expressed their fears over safety on the issue following the Australian Grand Prix, when Robert Kubica and Sebastian Vettel collided while contesting second place.
"We expressed our concerns after Australia, after the accident of Robert Kubica and Sebastian Vettel – it was due to the difference of the speed," he said.
"He (Kubica) tried to overtake, Vettel was not in control of the car with that tyre, you cannot brake, you cannot turn-in, you cannot do anything. And then Robert had a big crash after that because he damaged the car.
"Then we expressed our concerns and now in the third race we have the same tyre at a worse circuit. This is something that we need to change immediately."
Alonso added that he considered both the super-soft and the hard tyres to be unsuited to Shanghai.
"I think the super-soft on this type of circuit with long, high-speed corners... in Turn 1 it will be destroyed and in Turn 10 there will be no more left tyre.
"One will be too hard and one will be too soft. The right tyre is at home! The soft tyre is at home, and this happened in Australia as well. And the understanding that this is for a better show, for overtaking...
"As I said, for a better show, maybe we can pick up our number and then whoever picks up number 15 can put on wet tyres, or whatever, and it is a better show and it's funny. Like this it is not funny."
"There is nothing lower than the human race except the French."
- Mark Twain
#25
Posted 16 April 2009 - 07:31 PM
#26
Posted 16 April 2009 - 08:20 PM
#28
Posted 17 April 2009 - 02:30 AM
#29
Posted 17 April 2009 - 02:44 AM
adamstrags, on Apr 15 2009, 10:40 PM, said:
Might a couple more teams surprise us with a new diffuser?
Will Button continue his winning streak?
Is it Barichello's turn?
Could the court case losers be out for blood?
Which other teams will this circuit suit?
Hamilton running new front wing and new diffuser in FP1 - so that answers your first question....and Renault is flying one and a floorpan in...
Lets hope not, re your second question.
Lets hope not, re your third question. Would like to see Nico on the top step myself...
No, re your fourth question. They are not vampires. Though Kimi quite likes the night life, so maybe....??!???!
Re you last question - whichever teams can manage the supersoft best will suit this circuit. It won't be Alonso - his frame of mind is already against them so he will destroy them super fast.
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