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Posted 12 July 2012 - 08:33 PM

The sort of young driver test that isn't the real young driver test was held today at Silverstone.

Valtteri Bottas in the Williams was five seconds clear of his closest "competition."  Other runners were Max Chilton (Marussia), Rio Haryanto (Marussia), and Qing Hua Ma (HRT).

Conclusions: There are none to be made after this pointless exercise, though Bottas has been pretty good in the Friday sessions he's done.

It leads me to ask...are the teams who aren't doing this test at Silverstone eligible to do one in Abu Dhabi, or has the young driver test just died off altogether?
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Posted 14 July 2012 - 08:41 AM

Bottas is a star in the making.  Some of the guys they drag up are not of the same calibre of Kobi, Perez, Mad Donald et al. On the other hand people get missed too. I remember Jamie Green winning the F3 series in 2004 or whatever and ending up in DTM without a sniff at F1. Despite a great first works season they dumped him in a year-old car to make way for Paffett but he still managed to win a race. As I have said elsewhere on this forum, all support driver should hold a Superlicence and the FIA should at least allow in-season tyre testing for all teams to give the drivers experience in the car. If not for anything else - their own safety.
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:47 AM

Was Maria de Villota really at fault in her accident? According to Marussia's investigation, it would seem so; http://www.jamesalle...sting-accident/
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 05:36 AM

Not today in F1,


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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:37 AM

Blackmail attempt on Bernie: http://www.telegraph...ter-Tamara.html

Stewart bringing up driver coaches again and offering to help Grosjean (sort of): http://www.autosport...t.php/id/101265

Lucas di Grassi eye-level lap of Spa:


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Posted 19 July 2012 - 12:26 PM

View PostRainmaster, on 19 July 2012 - 01:37 AM, said:

Blackmail attempt on Bernie: http://www.telegraph...ter-Tamara.html

Stewart bringing up driver coaches again and offering to help Grosjean (sort of): http://www.autosport...t.php/id/101265

Lucas di Grassi eye-level lap of Spa:


You biased Hamiltonsteric Sutilphobic scum! No mention of the "orgy with 10 girls" Hamilton had? :P

Apparently, being in the same room with 10 girls is headline news. Amazingly, there was no mention of how many guys were also there, or why they decided that the fact that 10 girls had some relevance, and not the fact that, lets say 15 other guys being there did not prove that Hamilton "had a gay orgy with 15 guys" Seriously, some journalists...
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:28 PM

View PostQuiet One, on 19 July 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

You biased Hamiltonsteric Sutilphobic scum! No mention of the "orgy with 10 girls" Hamilton had? Posted Image

Apparently, being in the same room with 10 girls is headline news. Amazingly, there was no mention of how many guys were also there, or why they decided that the fact that 10 girls had some relevance, and not the fact that, lets say 15 other guys being there did not prove that Hamilton "had a gay orgy with 15 guys" Seriously, some journalists...

Yeah, if simply being in a room with more than two girls is considered an orgy, well call me Max Mosley.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:44 PM

View PostRainmaster, on 19 July 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

Yeah, if simply being in a room with more than two girls is considered an orgy, well call me Max Mosley.
:lol:
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 04:34 PM

View PostRainmaster, on 19 July 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

Yeah, if simply being in a room with more than two girls is considered an orgy, well call me Max Mosley.

Call you sued, more like :)

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 05:03 PM

View PostGrabthaw the Hammerslayer, on 20 July 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

Call you sued, more like Posted Image
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Hey, looks who's arse kissing  now: http://www.jamesalle...ce-from-alonso/
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 09:28 AM

Uh-oh, RBR under investigation.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 09:42 AM

View PostLabradoRacer, on 22 July 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

Uh-oh, RBR under investigation.

http://www.pitpass.c...es_art_id=46890

View PostLabradoRacer, on 22 July 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

Uh-oh, RBR under investigation.

http://www.pitpass.c...es_art_id=46890
yeah, whats going here man...
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 09:57 AM

View PostBradSpeedMan, on 22 July 2012 - 09:42 AM, said:

yeah, whats going here man...

You quoted me twice.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:33 AM

It's supposed to do with off-throttle blowing. What puzzles me is how did they do it if the ECU is FIA's. How, mechanically?

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Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 12:32 PM

View PostAleHop, on 22 July 2012 - 10:33 AM, said:

It's supposed to do with off-throttle blowing. What puzzles me is how did they do it if the ECU is FIA's. How, mechanically?
They did a very simple trick: they change the engine mapping to deliver the minimum torque as possible in the mid revs, so the driver can still on throtle even in corner without the risk of an oversteer finding a way to "feed" the diffusor with much more exhaust gases. Clever!
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 04:13 PM

View PostArgento Reloaded, on 25 July 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

They did a very simple trick: they change the engine mapping to deliver the minimum torque as possible in the mid revs, so the driver can still on throtle even in corner without the risk of an oversteer finding a way to "feed" the diffusor with much more exhaust gases. Clever!
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As we were saying yesterday...
Fray Luis de León wrote mystical poems which prompted Cervantes to proclaim León "a genius who astounds the world and who, in ecstasy, might rob us of our senses." León was also an active man who taught at the University of Salamanca, translated classical and biblical literature, and wrote on religious themes. Twice denounced before the Inquisition, he was imprisoned for "heresy," though he returned to the University to later hold the chairs of Moral Philosophy and Biblical Studies.

Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:50 PM

http://www.totalf1.c...ockenheim_race/

So many jokes...so  little time...
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 08:11 PM

View PostQuiet One, on 25 July 2012 - 07:50 PM, said:

http://www.totalf1.c...ockenheim_race/

So many jokes...so  little time...

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Who can still doubt that we've got the old Kimi back!

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:42 AM

View PostLabradoRacer, on 22 July 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:

You quoted me twice.
dunno how that happened Posted Image
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"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 02:49 PM

http://www.gpupdate....tay-at-mclaren/

Ron Dennis is puffing his chest out. He must know that there are no seats left anywhere else.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 03:32 PM

View Postdribbler, on 26 July 2012 - 02:49 PM, said:

http://www.gpupdate....tay-at-mclaren/

Ron Dennis is puffing his chest out. He must know that there are no seats left anywhere else.
Yes, Whitmarsh said something along the  lines of "I think he will stay, for good or for bad, we will be stuck with each other"

In both cases (MW and RD) none of them seem too  thrilled about the perspective, nor does Lewis. I feel that it is not about the car, or the championship possibilities (as it is true that McLaren is, objectively, Lewis best option unless Vettel leaves RBR). I think that, since a while ago, things between Ron and Lewis had gone sour. MW was always more fond of Button, IMHO, but not as much as to "sabotage" Lewis in any way, maybe make Lewis feel a little dejected and missing those "happy bubble" days but nothing more. But with Ron I definitely sense bitterness. Perhaps that also explains the sudden sympathy between Lewis and Nando?
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 11:28 PM

View PostQuiet One, on 25 July 2012 - 07:50 PM, said:

http://www.totalf1.c...ockenheim_race/

So many jokes...so  little time...

He even falls over in a cool way Posted Image Ahem, excuse me..

As for Dennis, his recent interviews on Hamilton could hint at a souring of the relationship. Then again, he's known for being a hard negotiator, right? It could just be that. But anyone would have to agree that Lewis is unlikely to be happy about continuing with Mclaren through a lack of other reasonable options, and that will always lead to some tension in the team.

I think Alonso and Hammy's recent respectful comments are because they both matured a lot (esp. Alonso), they are also probably true and a nice way of keeping Vettel's ego under check, the one who has actually been most successful lately.
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:54 PM

RBR continues to make news.

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/101572

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 02:14 PM

View PostLabradoRacer, on 28 July 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:


RBR continues to make news.


News would be Horner admitting they had done something dodgy in PF.

:rolleyes:

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 02:30 PM

View PostAleHop, on 28 July 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

News would be Horner admitting they had done something dodgy in PF.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:01 AM

Silly season: Kimi & Jenson possible candidates for a 2013 Ferrari seat.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 03:03 PM

View PostLabradoRacer, on 29 July 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

Silly season: Kimi & Jenson possible candidates for a 2013 Ferrari seat.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 03:43 PM

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 04:29 PM

View PostLabradoRacer, on 28 July 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

RBR continues to make news.

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/101572

I find that one a bit odd.

Article 34.5 of the Sporting Regulations states: "In order that the scrutineers may be completely satisfied that no alterations have been made to the suspension systems or aerodynamic configuration of the car (with the exception of the front wing) whilst in post qualifying parc ferme, it must be clear from physical inspection that changes cannot be made without the use of tools."

"It was something that could either be changed by hand or by tool, but the FIA said they preferred it was a tool that was used," Horner told AUTOSPORT.

I have no idea of the validity of the statement from Horner, but surely the rule doesn't say it's preferable for a tool to be used?  The only thing I can think of is that it's possible the suspension settings could be altered by hand, but nobody from the FIA has actually tried it :lol:
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