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#1 kukapt

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 01:55 PM

I heard in Portugal, that the F1 races could come again to Portugal, to one of this 2 circuits...

Is it true???? :clap3::clap3::clap3:

Circuito do Estoril

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Autódromo do Algarve

If true, I hope it is on Algarve. The Circuit is much more fantastic than Estoril!!!!

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 02:33 PM

Wrong forum! Anyhoo, don't think it'll work out! Algarve is a good track but the races I saw there (LMS, FIA GT, GP2), there's been barely any spectators @ all! So I think it would'nt go down well with Bernie!
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Posted 09 November 2009 - 08:23 PM

View Postmikathegreat2, on 09 November 2009 - 02:33 PM, said:

Wrong forum! Anyhoo, don't think it'll work out! Algarve is a good track but the races I saw there (LMS, FIA GT, GP2), there's been barely any spectators @ all! So I think it would'nt go down well with Bernie!

There haven't been many spectators only because the events they've held aren't of great magnitude.  Considering the economy, going to GP2 or sports car events is probably something that most people aren't doing.  Even F1 crowds have been low all year in all countries, and NASCAR in the US has had a lot of empty seats.  They'll go if Algarve can pay big bucks to CVC Capital.

Algarve's a gorgeous circuit.  It would make sense to have a race in Portugal, too, only because Valencia and Barcelona are both in western Spain, so you'd get an entirely different group of people who could go, in addition to the Portuguese race fans.

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 05:24 PM

The problem of fewer spectators is global! not Portuguese!
I preferred too in Algarve :)

It is a newer circuit, and maybe, for being in a hotter zone, bring more turists/fans.
Why go only to see a race, You could enjoy better the region, than in Estoril!

PS: A little doubt: what is CVC Capital?

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 08:37 PM

View Postkukapt, on 10 November 2009 - 05:24 PM, said:

The problem of fewer spectators is global! not Portuguese!
I preferred too in Algarve :)

It is a newer circuit, and maybe, for being in a hotter zone, bring more turists/fans.
Why go only to see a race, You could enjoy better the region, than in Estoril!

PS: A little doubt: what is CVC Capital?

Indeed.  There are issues with attendance everywhere.

My friend's mother is from Portugal, and they go to visit a lot.  It sounds like a really great place, and I'm sure they'd get tourists to go when the economy gets better.  Even Indianapolis for the USGP was well-attended because of fans from Latin America coming to see it, as well as some Europeans.

CVC Capital own the commercial rights to F1.  Bernie Ecclestone sold it to them.  When CVC bought the rights, they went into debt.  They are now trying to repay the debt by charging very high amounts for tracks to have a grand prix, which is why many have lost a race (Magny-Cours, Montréal, Indy, etc).  Bernie is not innocent, but CVC are bad guys, too.

Welcome to the forum, by the way :)
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Posted 11 November 2009 - 12:58 AM

View Postlewisthegreat2, on 09 November 2009 - 08:23 PM, said:

and NASCAR in the US has had a lot of empty seats.
Impossible!!!!!
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Posted 11 November 2009 - 03:17 AM

View Postmikathegreat2, on 11 November 2009 - 12:58 AM, said:

Impossible!!!!!

You'd certainly think so when the average NASCAR fan is so large they take up three seats.  You only need 50,000 people to fill the 150,000 seats, but they can't even get that, can they? ;)

They could, of course, be doing worse.  Take a look at the IndyCar crowd for the Homestead race.

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 04:26 PM

View Postlewisthegreat2, on 11 November 2009 - 03:17 AM, said:

You'd certainly think so when the average NASCAR fan is so large they take up three seats.  You only need 50,000 people to fill the 150,000 seats, but they can't even get that, can they? ;)

They could, of course, be doing worse.  Take a look at the IndyCar crowd for the Homestead race.

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 05:52 PM

View Postlewisthegreat2, on 11 November 2009 - 03:17 AM, said:

You'd certainly think so when the average NASCAR fan is so large they take up three seats.  You only need 50,000 people to fill the 150,000 seats, but they can't even get that, can they? ;)

They could, of course, be doing worse.  Take a look at the IndyCar crowd for the Homestead race.

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GReat photo! Crowded the race hihihihi ;)

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