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#181 lewisthegreat2

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 07:18 PM

View PostHandyNZL, on 29 March 2011 - 11:18 AM, said:

Ouch.  Well they are lucky they have two months till the next race.  Why the big wait? I understand the 500 being all of May, but has someone forgot that April exists too?

The next race is in Birmingham, Alabama on April 10.  Long Beach is April 17, and São Paulo is May 1.  Only people who forgot about April were the American commentators, Marty Reid and Scott Goodyear, who declared that the next race was the 100th Running of the Indianapolis 500.  Evidently, they forgot not only about April, but also every day until the one before Memorial Day 2016. ;)

Tomas Scheckter was the first entry to Indy, by the way, in the #07 REDLINE Xtreme Dallara-Honda for SH Racing/KV Racing.  One-shot for Scheckter and Wheldon, then, and both hope to make those rides full-time in 2012.  I was dead wrong about the REDLINE team; I thought for sure they wouldn't make it.
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Posted 29 March 2011 - 07:23 PM

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The next race is in Birmingham, Alabama on April 10.  Long Beach is April 17, and São Paulo is May 1.  Only people who forgot about April were the American commentators, Marty Reid and Scott Goodyear, who declared that the next race was the 100th Running of the Indianapolis 500.  Evidently, they forgot not only about April, but also every day until the one before Memorial Day 2016. ;)

Tomas Scheckter was the first entry to Indy, by the way, in the #07 REDLINE Xtreme Dallara-Honda for SH Racing/KV Racing.  One-shot for Scheckter and Wheldon, then, and both hope to make those rides full-time in 2012.  I was dead wrong about the REDLINE team; I thought for sure they wouldn't make it.

I was sitting there going, huh? What? Two months off...whaaaa?

Isn't Danica #7? 07 and 7...seems a bit dumb.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 12:13 AM

Eddie Gossage and Simona de Silvestro get it.

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“I thought the double-file restarts were fun because it actually gave us  a chance to make positions,” she said, confirming IndyCar’s premise.   “Last year we would start single-file every time and it would be hard.   You would just follow the leader.  I think the restarts made it  exciting.”

By the way, who got the biggest ovation from the St. Pete crowd  after the race?  It was de Silvestro for her stirring St. Pete  performance with an under-funded team.  Her brave moves reminded more of  Dale Earnhardt in NASCAR than it did of a driver fearing the  double-file restarts.  Fans can see this.  And they like it.  The fan  surveys here overwhelmingly demand double-file restarts.  IndyCar racing  is wise to listen to the fans after ignoring their wishes for the last  two decades.

The big-name guys mostly complaining about the restarts (when the big accident was on the actual start, not a restart), and here we have de Silvestro facing it with a positive attitude and an understanding of who the sport needs to cater to (I'll give you a hint, it isn't the drivers) and how to get there.  She's dead-on, and I appreciate Eddie Gossage for telling it like it is.  I like these restarts and I'm glad Simona's mature enough to handle them while the faces of the silly drivers' union call a three-time Indy 500 champion an "idiot" and blah blah blah.

Randy Bernard's got to get her on the TV shows like he does with Franchitti and Power (who are great faces for the sport, truly; Americans can fall in love with Scots and Aussies and a host of other nationalities, and these two are definitely big personalities and even bigger talents).
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Posted 01 April 2011 - 07:06 PM

NASCAR has become a lot like Florida.  All the criminals seem to disappear, only to be found there.

We took Piquet, and now we're taking Mike Coughlan, as Michael Waltrip Racing (who employ another ex-McLaren man in Steve Hallam) have added him to their staff.

To be serious, I'm all for them having second chances and new careers in NASCAR, and it's a good pick-up by MWR to be honest.  Sure, they were the only ones that would hire him, but that's to their benefit and everyone else's loss, I think.
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Posted 03 April 2011 - 11:10 PM

Two races, two great finishes.




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Posted 04 April 2011 - 12:21 PM

I watched most of the race yesterday, it was good stuff. The ending was particularly good as you say. Never really been a fan of Earnhardt Jr before, but I thought it would have been cool to see him win. But great drive by Harvick, the deserving winner really.
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Posted 04 April 2011 - 07:10 PM

Glad you enjoyed it.  Martinsville is a great track because it really brings out the "old-time" stock car racing.  Lot's of rubbing, leaning, some bumping.  All the drivers will tell you it's the most physically demanding race on them, even if it's one of the shortest distance wise.

Earnhardt's hard to figure out.  I don't want to like him, solely for avoiding being a "Junior fan," but he's just such a class act.  He's really quiet about it, and he's so shy and awkward in interviews, so you don't really get much of an idea of how good he is as a man, but he really does the right things.  He's had some tough times off the track following the passing of his father, and I'm not going to air his dirty laundry here (most of it can be Googled anyway), but on things that really matter (i.e. not who he's dated in the past), he does it properly.

Earlier in the thread you can find what he did for Jimmy Means' team (a ridiculously small, no-budget team that can't even afford tires) at Daytona when their car got destroyed (steering broke; it's a small team, so the quality of their cars can be pretty low).  It's just one example of the things he's done in that regard, and his off-track controversy is no where near as severe as other drivers' (i.e. Tony Stewart), is all meaningless, the validity is dubious, and all of it has reason (after his father passed away, he was the one who needed people to lean on, and yet everyone leaned on him and thrust him into this role as poster-boy for the sport, and made him a superstar, when in reality he was just a quiet, reserved, downright shy kid from North Carolina who just wanted to drive and lead a quiet life, and not have a media presence...they made him be someone he isn't, and he's not coped with that well).

Dissertations on Junior aside, it was a good race, and Kevin Harvick, as you said, deserved it.

To mention another driver (and James, you had to have seen this coming from a mile away)...what does Bobby Labonte have to do to just have a good race?!  After Daytona, he's just had **** for luck.  His car was set-up for long-runs at Bristol, where he had a solid top ten run, and then they got into a lot of cautions and restarts in the latter half of the race so that just didn't work out well for his car; c'est la vie.  Come to Martinsville, easy top ten car, preserving it well for the finish, gets shuffled back on a restart being on the high side and having no gap to come back down...and then...

It's so agonizing to be a Labonte fan sometimes.  It's the best ride he's had in six years and they just aren't getting the results they are capable of.  One of these weekends...
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Posted 04 April 2011 - 11:12 PM

Bruno Junqueira confirmed in a second Foyt entry for the 95th Running of the Indianapolis 500-Mile Race.  The number is 84.

Recall Junqueira nearly lost his career at Indy in 2005 in a crash during the race.  The driver largely blamed for the wreck?  A.J. Foyt, IV., driving for his grandfather.  Looks like there are no hard feelings there.  Second year in a row that Junqueira has had an odd connection to his ride; last year, he drove for Alex Tagliani's FAZZT Race Team.  Tagliani replaced Junqueira in the 2009 Indy 500 when they were teammates at Conquest; Junqueira qualified for the race, while Tagliani didn't, and Tagliani's sponsor happened to have a bigger check.

Junqueira, of course, is racing in the ALMS for Rocketsports with two other ex-Champ Car guys: Cristiano da Matta and P.J. Jones.  One hell of a likable team there, I think.

And Oriol Servià will be at Indy with Newman/Haas; of course, he'll be at every race with Newman/Haas this year.  The coincidence?  Servià's first stint with Newman/Haas came in 2005, as the replacement driver for Junqueira, finishing second in the points.  He rejoined the team in 2009, and again this year.

Junqueira has two top fives and one pole in the 500, as well as a lot of bad luck.  He's also never failed to qualify for the race, despite having as few as two practice laps at some points.

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 09:27 PM

James Hinchcliffe is INDYCAR's next star.

Meet him at his various YouTube channels.

http://www.youtube.com/user/hinchtown
http://www.youtube.c...ser/hinchvision

If it rains during practice at Indy (which, by the way, it always does), VERSUS have to stick a camera in front of this guy and have him walk the garage and bring out everyone's personalities in a way that none of the pit reporters really can (I think Jack Arute, annoying as he was, had an ability to do this in that everyone really trusted and respected him; his absence will be felt in that regard).

Pretty good racer, too.

http://www.indycar.c...spotter_web.pdf

Spotters' guide/entry list to Barber.  Some notes:

26 entries...everyone within 105% will race.  The second Conquest car is delayed, then...

Simon Pagenaud fills in for the injured Ana Beatriz in the #24.  He's a fine racer; something of a dark horse in this one.

Raphael Matos returns with AFS in the #17 after the great result in St. Petersburg.

Special liveries for: Castroneves, Briscoe, Franchitti, Wilson, Pagenaud, and Conway.
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Posted 06 April 2011 - 09:31 PM

Some NASCAR, now.

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I love that livery.

And for the 2013 cars to replace the COT:

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I think they're getting there.  The COT is providing some brilliant racing this year (if it's good enough for JHS, it's good enough for everyone else I think ;)), but a little bit of variety really wouldn't hurt.  The variety comes from the engines at the moment, which is more than enough from a racing perspective; from a marketing one, however, some prettier, more production-like cars would be cool.

I suspect it will be a bit like the current Nationwide car, which I do like from a design perspective; fortunately, it's not been really good in racing terms.  Make something like that, which can actually race the way the current COT does, and we have a winner.
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Posted 07 April 2011 - 08:01 PM

Yeah, I've surprised myself really. Since Justin.tv started working for me (why, I have no idea) I've not missed a race. People say NASCAR's contrived, but I can't say I've really seen anything too contrived happen so far, but maybe that's because I'm relatively new to the sport so don't know the complete ins and outs of what goes on.

I've even found myself actually defending NASCAR recently. It seems some race fans thought process only goes as far as Formula One, meanwhile they miss out on great racing because they simply dismiss it as "driving in circles".

Sure, the fans get a bad rap, but really, it's about the racing and the racing has been pretty good from what I've seen so far. I probably won't get to see all the racing this year, but whilst justin.tv continues to work for me, I'll enjoy it whilst I can.

Eric, you already know that I'm glad that Hinchcliffe has got his (much deserved) ride, but I wasn't aware of his "hinchtown" YouTube channel, so thanks for the link. The video of him getting in the dog washing machine was great, can't imagine many other drivers would volunteer to do that even for a favour for their sister!
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Posted 07 April 2011 - 08:55 PM

I'm glad JTV's working for you and that you can enjoy some different kinds of racing now.  If it weren't for JTV, I'd be avoiding the BTCC thread until the reairs in December. ;)

NASCAR's a fun sport, and there's so much respect between NASCAR and F1 (as in the people actually within both sports, especially drivers).  The fans will catch on soon enough that you can enjoy both for different reasons.

If you ever for any reason find yourself in the U.S., you (and everyone else reading this) have to go to a stock car race.  It's just really, really cool.  It combines something of a BTCC down-to-earth feel with the mega-millions of F1.  Just a cool experience; for the same reasons I'd urge F1 fans to go to a NASCAR race in person, I'll try to get to Austin if they get that event going and if I get some free time.
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 05:33 AM

I'll second the going to a NASCAR race from Eric.

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 02:13 PM

Good weekend so far for Roush-Fenway.  Carl Edwards wins the Nationwide race last night, and David Ragan takes the Coors Light Pole Award for the big show.

Also been a good weekend for Ganassi and Penske over in the IZOD INDYCAR Series.  Final practice before qualifying was paced by Scott Dixon, Ryan Briscoe, Dario Franchitti, Graham Rahal, and Will Power.  Charlie Kimball was all the way up in sixth (which I personally enjoy), followed by Hélio Castroneves, Alex Tagliani, Oriol Servià, and J.R. Hildebrand (finally showing something after being p**s-poor in every test and practice session at every track so far).

Takuma Sato has been decent, too, so perhaps he's really putting stuff together.  He did a nice interview for SPEEDTV leading up to the weekend.  I find it really hard to find drivers I don't like in the sport (and there are some, and a few of them drive for Andretti Autosport).  James Hinchcliffe has been respectable all weekend (P11, P9, and P14), so good news for another James on that front.  Simona de Silvestro is up to P15 in the last practice, so that team is getting better over the weekend.  Sébastien Bourdais continues to be Sébastien Bourmeh (get it?), a miserable P16, followed by the four Andretti cars (Andretti, Hunter-Reay, Patrick, and Conway) crapping the bed seventeenth through twentieth.  Simon Pagenaud has really struggled to get to grips with an open-wheel car after years in the slower sports cars and despite being an Atlantics champion and good Champ Car racer.  Bit of a disappointment, but the INDYCAR is so different from anything he's driven (it may be a tick slower than the Champ Car on road courses, but it drives totally differently).

Big weekend for Indy Lights, too, as VERSUS kicks off their live coverage of the series this weekend from Barber.  Mike King and Willy T. Ribbs are in the booth.  VERSUS will also air the IZOD INDYCAR race immediately after, with Bob Jenkins, Wally Dallenbach, and Jon Beekhuis leading a team that includes Lindy Thackston, Marty Snider, Kevin Lee, and Robin Miller for some quality coverage of what should be a good race.  They should be streaming somewhere, too.
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Posted 09 April 2011 - 04:31 PM

http://www.livestream.com/indycar

Pretty cool.  Live streaming of a lot of off-track stuff like the press conferences and interviews with drivers etc.  Really good insight.  The drivers have a lot of fun in their interviews in INDYCAR.

William Power takes another PEAK Performance Pole Award.  Ryan Briscoe, Scott Dixon, Hélio Castroneves, and Justin Wilson the top five.  Oriol Servià looks strong in P6, with Dario Franchitti a surprisingly low seventh on the grid.  Rookie James Hinchcliffe is right behind his experienced teammate in eighth, a great run for him.  Marco Andretti and Graham Rahal make up the rest of the top ten.

Takuma Sato, Alex Tagliani, Simona de Silvestro, Raphael Matos, and J.R. Hildebrand take positions eleven through fifteen.  Mike Conway and Ryan Hunter-Reay continue to struggle for Andretti Autosport, P16 and P17 respectively, while E.J. Viso, Vitor Meira, and Sébastien Bourdais fill out the top twenty.  Charlie Kimball disappoints in twenty-first, with Danica Patrick back in twenty-second.  Simon Pagenaud is twenty-third; alongside will be Tony Kanaan way at the back.  James Jakes and Sebastián Saavedra are the final row for tomorrow's Honda Indy Grand Prix of Alabama from Barber Motorsports Park in Birmingham, Alabama.

With double-file restarts and Franchitti and Kanaan (among others) starting further back than their cars' potential, this should be a good one.  Great to see Newman/Haas in the top ten, too!
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Posted 09 April 2011 - 11:31 PM

Two years in a row: Bobby Santos breaks the track record (his own) at Thompson to win the Coors Light Pole Award for the Icebreaker!  I'm excited.
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 06:17 PM

INDYCAR racing today!  Lights just ended with Víctor García taking a surprising win in a close battle with Stefan Wilson.

You can watch the race LIVE later today right here if TV coverage is not available in your area.  Enjoy!
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 08:40 PM

Just tuned in now. Hope to see some good stuff.
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 08:47 PM

Damn, Hinchcliffe out the race. Shame for his first race.
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 09:01 PM

Doubt Viso will be on Hinch's Christmas car list. I wanted him to make a Viso joke! :P
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 09:17 PM

That's Briscoe gone. Silly move by Hunter-Reay.
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 09:21 PM

Hunter-Reay penalty, Patrick up to 3rd after taking no tyres in the pits.
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 09:25 PM

Haha one thing I am liking about Indycar is the drivers call a spade a spade. No hidden emotions at other drivers.

Damn. Wilson gone now, my other favourite.
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 09:35 PM

Not liking how many lengthy cautions there are, disruptes the flow of the race. But man these two wide restarts are exciting!
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 09:48 PM

Charlie Kimball running 10th. That's a great story. Hopefully he can keep it that way.

Meanwhile Danica slips further and further back.
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 09:51 PM

Hunter-Reay learns his lessons and passes Danica cleanly in the place he took Briscoe out. She's a moving chicane now with so many cars lining up to pass her, haha.
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 09:58 PM

Power slowly pulling away from Dixon. I think he has this one in the bag.
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 10:05 PM

Power wins, Dixon second, Franchitti completes the podium.

Good race, I enjoyed it. Too many cautions again, but some great action and some tasty overtakes.
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 10:23 PM

Not a bad race at all.

I'll begin with the television coverage: huge improvement!  The new commentary team and producers on VERSUS did a great job making this fun to watch today.  Well done there.

William Power was playing in his own league today.  I was hoping Scott Dixon could get his nose in there at the end, but Power had more pushes-to-pass left, and Dixon just had to give in.  It's going to be a fun battle all season between Power and Franchitti for the title.  Two great guys, too, so I'm glad to see that.

Barber's such a nice course.  It's a natural terrain road course that you can actually overtake on.  Really enjoyed some of the battles we saw today.

Oriol Servià deserves some credit for holding of Tony Kanaan in the last run.  He had a huge lock-up and should have lost it, but he ran just enough of an ambiguous line to box Tony in without actually blocking.  It's a huge result for him and for Newman/Haas, and it's exactly what a lot of us who watched him in Champ Car, as well as in 2008 with KV, expected from him.  Hinchcliffe is going to beneft big-time from partnering with this guy, and, on that note, tough day for Hinch.  He impressed a lot in testing and again all weekend, and he's driven plenty of laps at Long Beach, so I think he'll continue to improve.  Good to see VERSUS giving him some air-time in the pre-race, too.  He's a big personality for the sport and I'm glad he talked it out with Viso.

Viso, by the way, is more of a hazard than his countrywoman Milka.  She's just slow; he's spinning all over the place.  Every session.  It's not always his fault; the deal today was just racing, but he puts himself in bad places for that to happen.  He stopped being fun-to-watch years ago; now I just wait for him to retire so the rate of yellows slows down. ;)

Not sure what the strategy for Danica was all about.  The Hunter-Reay/Briscoe contact played out perfectly for her; since everyone pitted, she would have kept the position (P7) she had gotten from the three-stopper cycling differently from the typical two and been able to hold that or perhaps advance.  The team got greedy and it cost them.  I will give Danica some credit, and that's rare for me, but I think she drove really respectfully at the end.  She knew she was slower, she knew she was locking it up, and she just stayed out of everyone's way and let people through.  I'll give her that.  And that car had to be an absolute pig to drive; should she have adjusted her driving a bit for that?  Yes, but her team should be familiar with her by now (she's in her fourth year with them), and they should know that she's not the kind of driver who is going to do well on a super-stint of tires, and all things considered, had they taken tires, they would have had a top ten out of a twentieth-place weekend.

On the other hand, I wonder if they didn't want to be P7 around Kanaan, de Silvestro, Meira, etc., for fears that those aggressive drivers might cause some fireworks on the double-file restart.  It's clear that Danica's just not as comfortable two-wide and she's really uncertain on the restarts.

Marco Andretti made the most of a rocky weekend for his team to get fourth.  Solidly done.

Kanaan, too, made big improvements through the weekend.  P24 to P6 is a hell of a drive, strategy or not.  Absolutely goes for it every lap, and actually has the talent to do that (unlike at least one of his teammates; Sato's better than Viso but still making some silly errors).

Simonamania continues!  P9 is really a good result for them, especially after a few run-ins.  Not her best drive, but it's still good to see her results improving from last year even without her same engineer.  She was pretty uncomfortable at Barber last year, so to be a top ten runner today is really impressive.  I think we'll see a lot more good runs from her as the season goes on, and I think she's a great example that you have to give rookies time with these cars.  INDYCARs are so different from any other formula car (and then you throw in the ovals...), and she's shown she can learn.  I think the same will apply to Kimball, Hinchcliffe, and Hildebrand over the next two seasons.  The performances in FILS/Atlantics do mean something; they just take a year to translate.

Speaking of Kimball, I'm thrilled to see him in tenth.  He's a really intelligent driver and knows a lot about the cars, even for a rookie.  He has a golden opportunity and I think by season's end we're going to see a lot of that green and orange car.

Simon Pagenaud steps right in, looks terrible, and by Sunday he's back to the Pagenaud we've seen in ALMS, CCWS, and Atlantics.  Great drive to salvage something for Dreyer & Reinbold after Wilson (who, by the way, is one hell of a trooper) ran into some trouble.

On to Long Beach next weekend.  Should be a good one!
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 10:26 PM

View PostJHS, on 10 April 2011 - 10:05 PM, said:

Power wins, Dixon second, Franchitti completes the podium.

Good race, I enjoyed it. Too many cautions again, but some great action and some tasty overtakes.

Glad you liked it.  The cautions situation is tough; for example, the Wilson/Matos wreck they were going to stay green, but Wilson couldn't get out of his car, so they couldn't move it.  Had it been someone who wasn't 6'3" and with a broken wrist, I suspect we would have stayed green then. ;)

Regardless, I don't mind the cautions too much because they really made the strategy interesting in that the cars on the three-stopped got really lucky and were able to fight up there in the top ten for the final stint, and I love those two-wide restarts.

Definitely some great overtaking.
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