Today is the launch of Ferrari's 2011 challenger, the F150. Post images here.
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Ferrari F150
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 10:14 AM
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 10:15 AM
Sorry, wrong F150....
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 10:16 AM
First crappy pic
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 10:19 AM
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 10:26 AM
Looks like a 2009 spec rear wing to me.....and a 2009 spec front wing...and nose...and splitter...and airbox....and diffuser.....and......and....
Now...where did the Ferrari end up in 2009?
Now...where did the Ferrari end up in 2009?
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 11:36 AM
Errrm... Thank you for the F10 pics. Now can you post the actual F150 stuff?
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 11:37 AM
Oh wow! It looks so...red and so...white...it's obviously a revolutionary design! i mean, look at the...thingies. What do you mean "what thingies?" Those thingies over there!
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 11:57 AM
Thingies?
THINGIES???
Will Alonso's eye brows be so important for the car to be fast?
THINGIES???
Will Alonso's eye brows be so important for the car to be fast?
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 12:05 PM
Pirelli's on a Ferrari! Now you're talkin!
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 01:15 PM
So Ferrari unveiled their car today, are there any surprises/innovations that our technically aware posters can comment on? I hear they keep a pushrod suspension, while it was expected that everyone would change to pullrod, following Red Bull. Is this true, and if so, what might be the reasoning in Ferrari concerning this?
(posted originally in "Today in F1" -thread, but this obviously is the correct thread)
(posted originally in "Today in F1" -thread, but this obviously is the correct thread)
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 01:24 PM
Can´t help you there. Can't tell apart the new Ferrari from the first pic Craig posted, actually.
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 05:45 PM
We need our more technically minded members in this thread! The only thing which stands out for me is the higher nose, other than that...
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 05:53 PM
(Regarding the push-rod suspension)
The team's chief designer Nikolas Tombazis reckons that Ferrari has been able to keep all the benefits of the push-rod layout without suffering any drawbacks in terms of the aerodynamic layout at the rear of the car."We evaluated different suspension configurations, and also pull-rod suspension like the one Red Bull introduced," he explained at the launch of the new Ferrari F150 on Friday.
"There are different possibilities - one is for aero volumes and we have found a way, which is not so visible on the car right now, to reduce the volume of the push rod suspension in an extreme way.
"That means we could reduce the rear volume, so our version is far more compact compared to the previous ones. We believe we have reached a similar level of packaging to the other ones.".
http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/89132
The team's chief designer Nikolas Tombazis reckons that Ferrari has been able to keep all the benefits of the push-rod layout without suffering any drawbacks in terms of the aerodynamic layout at the rear of the car."We evaluated different suspension configurations, and also pull-rod suspension like the one Red Bull introduced," he explained at the launch of the new Ferrari F150 on Friday.
"There are different possibilities - one is for aero volumes and we have found a way, which is not so visible on the car right now, to reduce the volume of the push rod suspension in an extreme way.
"That means we could reduce the rear volume, so our version is far more compact compared to the previous ones. We believe we have reached a similar level of packaging to the other ones.".
http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/89132
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 06:33 PM
Ferrari speaking openly about their design? They never do that, even when all the innovation they got was a new sponsor's logo.
Mmmmh...
Mmmmh...
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 08:38 PM
BAN JACQUES VILLENEUVE, on 28 January 2011 - 12:05 PM, said:
Pirelli's on a Ferrari! Now you're talkin!
That's news? Where the heck have you been?
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 08:59 PM
That Ferrari looks tame. Perhaps my predictions of Ferrari overtaking Red Bull (in my Red Bull will suffer most in 2011 thread) were dead wrong. The only thing interesting about this Ferrari is the rumour that it's using an interconnected suspension. If they've managed to make that work, it may see them pull ahead of the rest. Interesting to note that the effect of the interconnected suspension is exactly like the effect achieved with mass dampers.....one wonders if this will be allowed where the mass damper was banned.
On the pull vs. push rod suspension issue: It's a non-issue. The biggest benefit of running a pull over a push is one of center of gravity. A pull-rod will let you run a lower CoG in the rear. This is only helpful if the rest of your car's arse is designed around it. Last year's Red Bull had an extremely sophisticated rear-end that lent itself to the lower CoG from the pull-rods.
On the pull vs. push rod suspension issue: It's a non-issue. The biggest benefit of running a pull over a push is one of center of gravity. A pull-rod will let you run a lower CoG in the rear. This is only helpful if the rest of your car's arse is designed around it. Last year's Red Bull had an extremely sophisticated rear-end that lent itself to the lower CoG from the pull-rods.
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 10:46 PM
HandyNZL, on 28 January 2011 - 10:14 AM, said:
You know, a lot of people are making a big drama about the "real Lotus" and who should yield to whom nonsense, so I'm going to make a big drama out of Ferrari stealing the name from America's best selling motor vehicle all season long.
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 11:56 PM
It's amazing how much cleaner the rear of the car looks without the double diffuser and EBD. A kind of uninspiring looking car from Ferrari, but I would imagine they have a few aces up their sleeve. McLaren are pretty similar when it comes to launching a car bare (so to speak) and not showing their hand till late. As with the 2009 and 2010 cars, a very nice looking mount, but it will be interesting to see if they have the speed.
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Posted 29 January 2011 - 06:56 AM
Interconnected suspension you say?????
So they have whipped up a modern di Dion suspension assembly? Possibly last seen on the dog of a race car, the Ferrari 312T, as tried to race by Gilles Villeneuve.
For those of you going WTF is a di Dion suspension then click here: http://en.wikipedia....ki/De_Dion_tube
For those of you wanting to see a dog then click here: http://en.wikipedia....ki/Ferrari_312T (in di Dion guise, of course)
Things bode oh so well for Ferrari...
So they have whipped up a modern di Dion suspension assembly? Possibly last seen on the dog of a race car, the Ferrari 312T, as tried to race by Gilles Villeneuve.
For those of you going WTF is a di Dion suspension then click here: http://en.wikipedia....ki/De_Dion_tube
For those of you wanting to see a dog then click here: http://en.wikipedia....ki/Ferrari_312T (in di Dion guise, of course)
Things bode oh so well for Ferrari...
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Posted 29 January 2011 - 03:17 PM
It should give them great rear end stability, but I can't see it being the golden nugget. And I can also imagine other teams thinking of developing it for themselves if they believe it infers a performance advantage. One way or another, by the time the season starts I don't feel the advantage it infers will be overly big.
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Posted 29 January 2011 - 04:44 PM
HandyNZL, on 29 January 2011 - 06:56 AM, said:
Interconnected suspension you say?????
So they have whipped up a modern di Dion suspension assembly? Possibly last seen on the dog of a race car, the Ferrari 312T, as tried to race by Gilles Villeneuve.
For those of you going WTF is a di Dion suspension then click here: http://en.wikipedia....ki/De_Dion_tube
For those of you wanting to see a dog then click here: http://en.wikipedia....ki/Ferrari_312T (in di Dion guise, of course)
Things bode oh so well for Ferrari...
So they have whipped up a modern di Dion suspension assembly? Possibly last seen on the dog of a race car, the Ferrari 312T, as tried to race by Gilles Villeneuve.
For those of you going WTF is a di Dion suspension then click here: http://en.wikipedia....ki/De_Dion_tube
For those of you wanting to see a dog then click here: http://en.wikipedia....ki/Ferrari_312T (in di Dion guise, of course)
Things bode oh so well for Ferrari...
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Autumnpuma, on 28 January 2011 - 08:59 PM, said:
That Ferrari looks tame.
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Posted 29 January 2011 - 08:56 PM
Mmmm, I think it looks a bit plain. You can lynch me, but when we see a gorgeous car I'll call it. If all of them are plain, then it's the regulations
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 11:29 PM
I hope the F150 is an interim car or else... 
If I were a team manager I would design two different cars for 2011. One with KERS and the other without KERS at all.
Then I would design a fake and I'd call it F150.
If I were a team manager I would design two different cars for 2011. One with KERS and the other without KERS at all.
Then I would design a fake and I'd call it F150.
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 12:26 AM
AleHop, on 30 January 2011 - 11:29 PM, said:
I hope the F150 is an interim car or else...
If I were a team manager I would design two different cars for 2011. One with KERS and the other without KERS at all.
Then I would design a fake and I'd call it F150.
If I were a team manager I would design two different cars for 2011. One with KERS and the other without KERS at all.
Then I would design a fake and I'd call it F150.
What they have presented is essentially just the basic shell of the car. The aero package that they turn up to the first race with will be quite a lot more evolved than that.
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