worst fear realised, I can tell u already it has a stepped nose...
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Lotusrenault E20 2012 Challenger
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:02 PM
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
"One might be tempted to say Ferrari are inconsistent this year. I think the opposite.
They are having one very good race followed by one very poor race. Consistently."
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:04 PM
the launch homepage has crashed...lol
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
"One might be tempted to say Ferrari are inconsistent this year. I think the opposite.
They are having one very good race followed by one very poor race. Consistently."
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:08 PM
Hate to be a d*ck, but shouldn't this be in the 2012 launches forum?
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:16 PM
JHS18, on 05 February 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:
Hate to be a d*ck, but shouldn't this be in the 2012 launches forum?
Kimi Raikkonen: It is the same thing that I said before. I have no interest in driving for a bad team next year. If I race here, I always try to finish as high as I can. I don't need anything to motivate me. If I drive, I drive to do my best and that is it.
jemstride:
"I get the feeling that Alonso fans tend to heap over-praise on Alonso and bring down Kimi whenever they can, with mere theories and unjustified statements."
I just always end up disagreeing with you guys because of all the huge exaggerations, myths, theories & unjustified statements
Lewis Hamilton:
I never go with expectations, I go with a target. That is to be at the front, and the ultimate aim to win, which is the mentality I have always gone racing with.
You've got to be on the limit all the time - and I love that, because that's how I love to race.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:23 PM
JHS18, on 05 February 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:
Hate to be a d*ck, but shouldn't this be in the 2012 launches forum?
don't fret, someone will move it
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
"One might be tempted to say Ferrari are inconsistent this year. I think the opposite.
They are having one very good race followed by one very poor race. Consistently."
Multi21 on JA blog
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:30 PM
Kimi Raikkonen: It is the same thing that I said before. I have no interest in driving for a bad team next year. If I race here, I always try to finish as high as I can. I don't need anything to motivate me. If I drive, I drive to do my best and that is it.
jemstride:
"I get the feeling that Alonso fans tend to heap over-praise on Alonso and bring down Kimi whenever they can, with mere theories and unjustified statements."
I just always end up disagreeing with you guys because of all the huge exaggerations, myths, theories & unjustified statements
Lewis Hamilton:
I never go with expectations, I go with a target. That is to be at the front, and the ultimate aim to win, which is the mentality I have always gone racing with.
You've got to be on the limit all the time - and I love that, because that's how I love to race.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:31 PM
so far the black ambient colour hides the details....hopefully studio shots will be released soon. Not as bad as the other 3
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Edited by BradSpeedMan, 05 February 2012 - 04:37 PM.
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
"One might be tempted to say Ferrari are inconsistent this year. I think the opposite.
They are having one very good race followed by one very poor race. Consistently."
Multi21 on JA blog
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:42 PM
Doubt it'll get moved seeing as we don't have any moderators to move it. 
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:00 PM
Man, Kimi has some serious amount of fans from all over the world...
anyway, herewith a side profile on the car, the stepped nose is not as hideous as the Ferrari though...
anyway, herewith a side profile on the car, the stepped nose is not as hideous as the Ferrari though...
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“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
"One might be tempted to say Ferrari are inconsistent this year. I think the opposite.
They are having one very good race followed by one very poor race. Consistently."
Multi21 on JA blog
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:00 PM
Actually, we do have some administration here. Where do you think the 2012 launches section came from in the first place? 
Wes does a lot more than you think; he just does it quietly. The number of threads/posts/accounts that have been deleted that you never even knew existed is staggering.
Anyway, I like this one best of all the ones so far. Maybe it's the colors, I don't know. I really hope it's competitive, sincerely. It'd be a huge loss for F1 to have Räikkönen in a mid-pack vehicle. The same goes for that Ferrari and Alonso. I don't support either, but I'd personally be a hell of a lot more interested in watching them battle it out for a win than with most others, especially when you consider that they never got to have a true rivalry (2005 and 2007 were the only years they were both really competitive together, though there was a big gap in 2005 still and in 2007 the focus was more Alonso vs. Hamilton than everyone vs. Räikkönen even though he actually won the title).
Wes does a lot more than you think; he just does it quietly. The number of threads/posts/accounts that have been deleted that you never even knew existed is staggering.
Anyway, I like this one best of all the ones so far. Maybe it's the colors, I don't know. I really hope it's competitive, sincerely. It'd be a huge loss for F1 to have Räikkönen in a mid-pack vehicle. The same goes for that Ferrari and Alonso. I don't support either, but I'd personally be a hell of a lot more interested in watching them battle it out for a win than with most others, especially when you consider that they never got to have a true rivalry (2005 and 2007 were the only years they were both really competitive together, though there was a big gap in 2005 still and in 2007 the focus was more Alonso vs. Hamilton than everyone vs. Räikkönen even though he actually won the title).
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:09 PM
looks great to me, prettier than mclaren
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:21 PM
The step on the nose is the gentlest of all the step-nosed cars so far, the colors look classy. Can't wait for someone to dissect the really important parts and to tell us where the important changes are. (Handy?) 
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:16 PM
Massa, on 05 February 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:
Actually, we do have some administration here. Where do you think the 2012 launches section came from in the first place?
Wes does a lot more than you think; he just does it quietly. The number of threads/posts/accounts that have been deleted that you never even knew existed is staggering.
Anyway, I like this one best of all the ones so far. Maybe it's the colors, I don't know. I really hope it's competitive, sincerely. It'd be a huge loss for F1 to have Räikkönen in a mid-pack vehicle. The same goes for that Ferrari and Alonso. I don't support either, but I'd personally be a hell of a lot more interested in watching them battle it out for a win than with most others, especially when you consider that they never got to have a true rivalry (2005 and 2007 were the only years they were both really competitive together, though there was a big gap in 2005 still and in 2007 the focus was more Alonso vs. Hamilton than everyone vs. Räikkönen even though he actually won the title).
Wes does a lot more than you think; he just does it quietly. The number of threads/posts/accounts that have been deleted that you never even knew existed is staggering.
Anyway, I like this one best of all the ones so far. Maybe it's the colors, I don't know. I really hope it's competitive, sincerely. It'd be a huge loss for F1 to have Räikkönen in a mid-pack vehicle. The same goes for that Ferrari and Alonso. I don't support either, but I'd personally be a hell of a lot more interested in watching them battle it out for a win than with most others, especially when you consider that they never got to have a true rivalry (2005 and 2007 were the only years they were both really competitive together, though there was a big gap in 2005 still and in 2007 the focus was more Alonso vs. Hamilton than everyone vs. Räikkönen even though he actually won the title).
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
"One might be tempted to say Ferrari are inconsistent this year. I think the opposite.
They are having one very good race followed by one very poor race. Consistently."
Multi21 on JA blog
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BradSpeedMan, on 05 February 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:
I'm starting to wonder if Mclaren have missed a trick here. Sure their car looks dynamic and fast, but I sincerely hope they know what they're doing. Let's see what RBR comes up with...
helmut marko said that RB8 nose isn't ugly as F2012 nose. so RB8 will probably look like RB5,similar to Lotus E20
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:41 PM
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"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:48 PM
Massa, on 05 February 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:
Actually, we do have some administration here. Where do you think the 2012 launches section came from in the first place?
Wes does a lot more than you think; he just does it quietly. The number of threads/posts/accounts that have been deleted that you never even knew existed is staggering.
Wes does a lot more than you think; he just does it quietly. The number of threads/posts/accounts that have been deleted that you never even knew existed is staggering.
I know, I was joking, and I appreciate he's busy. But we do seem to have quite a lot of spam about at the moment, and then the whole thing about new mods that everyone decided on that haven't been given permission yet...I'll say no more. It's still a nice forum, and I can't complain much.
Quite amused by the choice of sponsorship, anti-dandruff shampoo and deodorant, guess it fits seeing as E20 sounds like a feminine hygiene product...not that I'd know, I've just seen the adverts.
Can't really see anything new as yet, but hard to tell with the dark livery and lighting. Guess we'll see more when testing begins this week.
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Caesar, on 05 February 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:
helmut marko said that RB8 nose isn't ugly as F2012 nose. so RB8 will probably look like RB5,similar to Lotus E20
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
"One might be tempted to say Ferrari are inconsistent this year. I think the opposite.
They are having one very good race followed by one very poor race. Consistently."
Multi21 on JA blog
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 08:40 PM
SaSNoSEL!!!! (Same Stepped Nose Sh##t Every Launch)
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"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the Universe, and it has a longer shelf life" - Frank Zappa
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
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Caesar, on 05 February 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:
lovely stuff Caesar
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
"One might be tempted to say Ferrari are inconsistent this year. I think the opposite.
They are having one very good race followed by one very poor race. Consistently."
Multi21 on JA blog
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 09:37 PM
JHS18, on 05 February 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:
Quite amused by the choice of sponsorship, anti-dandruff shampoo and deodorant, guess it fits seeing as E20 sounds like a feminine hygiene product...not that I'd know, I've just seen the adverts.
Both brands, Rexona (or Degree, at least in the U.S.) and Clear Anti-Dandruff Shampoo, are owned by Unilever, so it's really only one sponsor rather than a coincidence. The only fun fact in all of that? Last year, through Bruno Senna, they were branded by Gillette, owned by Unilever's key rival, Procter & Gamble.
You know, though, it's the first time in Formula One history that two drivers with experience in NASCAR's Camping World Truck division with Räikkönen and the 2010 Most Popular Driver after some Indian racing fans created automated voting programs, Narain Karthikeyan. As it happens, Unilever have a long-time brand ambassador in the stock car ranks:
You can start the Earnhardt to Lotus rumors anytime you'd like.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 09:39 PM
Quiet One, on 05 February 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:
You could say these new noses are a bit polearizing.
Damn I'm good.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 10:45 PM
Massa, on 05 February 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:
You could say these new noses are a bit polearizing.
Damn I'm good.
Damn I'm good.
"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the Universe, and it has a longer shelf life" - Frank Zappa
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:27 PM
Shakedown... took some getting used to but it's starting to grow on me......just look at this baby
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Edited by BradSpeedMan, 06 February 2012 - 07:28 PM.
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
"One might be tempted to say Ferrari are inconsistent this year. I think the opposite.
They are having one very good race followed by one very poor race. Consistently."
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initial feedback good....onto testing 2morrow...
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“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
"One might be tempted to say Ferrari are inconsistent this year. I think the opposite.
They are having one very good race followed by one very poor race. Consistently."
Multi21 on JA blog
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“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
"One might be tempted to say Ferrari are inconsistent this year. I think the opposite.
They are having one very good race followed by one very poor race. Consistently."
Multi21 on JA blog
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 08:20 PM
Honestly, this is a great-looking racecar, not even just "oh well compared to the others" or "given the rules." It's really nice regardless.
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car on presentation isnt the car they drove today, at least aero package isnt
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Bradspeedman and schumikonen! its good to be back my fellow Kimisters, thanks for all the good work on spreading the ice man's words! I read the totalf1 forum everday, no kidding, and your posts are the ones I really enjoy!
The last 3 years were a dark period in my life with Kimi leaving the sport, but this year has been the best ever, Kimi coming back made it! Cant wait for season 2012 to start. hope the Iceman wrings that E20 by the neck and takes it to places on the grid it does not belong to! Finally decide to contribute in what ever way or form I can, happy to be back!
The last 3 years were a dark period in my life with Kimi leaving the sport, but this year has been the best ever, Kimi coming back made it! Cant wait for season 2012 to start. hope the Iceman wrings that E20 by the neck and takes it to places on the grid it does not belong to! Finally decide to contribute in what ever way or form I can, happy to be back!
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