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Posted 10 March 2012 - 09:06 AM

At pretty much this time next week, the first starting grid of the season will be known.  Will it be Massa on pole?  Or perhaps di Resta?  Who knows?  Maybe the rookie driver Kimi Rack'o'fin (or whatever his name is) will surprise everyone and grab a pole on debut!!

Proceedings actually start at the track on Thursday (that's Wednesday night for our European audience, and Wednesday day for our American folk) with the support races which this year feature V8 Supercars (which fills the stadiums faster than someone saying "free VB here", and then empties again at the conclusion of their time on track, when oddly enough is when they all go to buy some VB at the beer tents), Formula Fords, Porsche Carerra Cup, Group A & C touring cars, and a historic cars parade, and the Red Bull Race off which involves DC, Rick Kelly (V8 Supercars driver), Robbie Maddison (stunt dude), "Mad Mike" Whiddett (my work-next-door-neighbour and sometime maker of my signwriting needs), Mitch Evans (Mark Webbers protege - Kiwi up and coming single seater star), and Speedway Champion Jason Crump.

This is Mike's new car, that is frickin loud when he cranks it up - I don't normally wear ear muffs when I'm outside the workshop...least not till he started testing the engine :P  This was filmed at Hampton Downs on a wet day, so it kind of helps the drifting a bit.  At 2:48 you see the puddle that is the bain of everyones life if they get out of control on turn three on a wet day....



Some footage of Rick Kelly starring as the victim and the villian, and featuring Eric's favourite Aussie, Marcos Ambrose being a naughty boy :P


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Posted 10 March 2012 - 09:08 AM

Robbie Maddison doing what he does best....how he'll do this on four wheels around Albert Park I'm not so sure....



Mitch Evans takes the NZ Grand Prix title in 2011....the New Zealand Grand Prix previous winners include Jim Clark, Graham Hill, Chris Amon etc and is one of only two sanctioned FIA Grand Prix's outside of Formula One (the other being Macau)


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Posted 10 March 2012 - 09:21 AM

Jason Crump vs Tiff Needel on Fifth Gear



And this bloke, which brings us back to Formula One (strolling around with some other dude in a bright orange cap)


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Posted 10 March 2012 - 09:25 AM

And of course, Tanita gets to write the report for us :D

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:26 PM

Thanks Craig.

Any idea what the weather may be like yet, or is it too soon to tell? Heard some rumours rain could play a part in proceedings at some point, which I guess would make the opening race even more interesting.
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 04:46 PM

Ten-day forecast, which will never, ever, ever be accurate:

40% chance of showers on Friday, 40% chance of showers on Saturday, 20% chance of showers on Sunday.

1) That doesn't break it down by hours yet so it may mean nothing.

2) I find 30% or less to mean it won't rain.  40% means there's barely a chance but they aren't ready to conclusively say it won't.  So it probably doesn't mean anything.

3) It's a whole week from now so it definitely means nothing. :P
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:04 AM

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The "Probability of Precipitation" (PoP) describes the chance of precipitation occurring at any point you select in the area.

How do forecasters arrive at this value?

Mathematically, PoP is defined as follows:

PoP = C x A where "C" = the confidence that precipitation will occur somewhere in the forecast area, and where "A" = the percent of the area that will receive measureable precipitation, if it occurs at all.
So... in the case of the forecast above, if the forecaster knows precipitation is sure to occur ( confidence is 100% ), he/she is expressing how much of the area will receive measurable rain. ( PoP = "C" x "A" or "1" times ".4" which equals .4 or 40%.)

But, most of the time, the forecaster is expressing a combination of degree of confidence and areal coverage. If the forecaster is only 50% sure that precipitation will occur, and expects that, if it does occur, it will produce measurable rain over about 80 percent of the area, the PoP (chance of rain) is 40%. ( PoP = .5 x .8 which equals .4 or 40%. )

I'm not sure what all that means, but I'll get back to you on it after I've had a shot or two of rye.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:56 AM

So what you're saying is, that there is an 80% chance that 50% of the race track will be wet, and 50% chance that 80% of Melbourne will get wet, and 40% chance that 100% of Australia will get wet?????

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:02 AM

View PostHandyNZL, on 12 March 2012 - 02:56 AM, said:

So what you're saying is, that there is an 80% chance that 50% of the race track will be wet, and 50% chance that 80% of Melbourne will get wet, and 40% chance that 100% of Australia will get wet?????
and 100% chance that you are wet?
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 09:53 AM

2 days 15 hours 37 minutes and I'm nearing explosion.





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Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:00 AM

View Postyurp, on 13 March 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

2 days 15 hours 37 minutes and I'm nearing explosion.
just don't do it here in the forums... can't imagine the splats it will create...
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"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:01 AM

yea, I can't wait too :lol:

must be the most unpredictable start to a F1 season ever!

the q still lingers... Has the FIA successfully curbed RB's dominance... remains to be seen

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"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 03:16 PM

The BBC are doing a list of F1's greatest drivers (usual caveats apply..), naming one on the Tuesday before each race.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/17319968 - this week, Jochen Rindt.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:10 AM

Brilliant article about Bogan Bernies Billionaire Butt-ugly offspring


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Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:38 AM

View Post#46, on 13 March 2012 - 03:16 PM, said:

The BBC are doing a list of F1's greatest drivers (usual caveats apply..), naming one on the Tuesday before each race.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/17319968 - this week, Jochen Rindt.

Rindt = Great Driver

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:44 PM

So I've read the Red Bull has an edge in qualifying, but over the course of a tire run, McLaren can eat their lunch in an even bigger way than last year.  I guess we'll find out how true that is this weekend.  It'd be a lot of fun, though, to keep that gap really close not just in the championship, but over the course of an entire race.

Helmets guide: http://www.planetf1....Helmets#photo=0

Weather?  Looks like it'll be clear all weekend, maybe a little rain Friday, but no doubt we should ask racing driver, BBC commentator, iTunes-charting musician, and renowned medical doctor Jaime Alguersuari for his opinion on the weather, given that he is, of course a meteorologist.  Perhaps he's heard there will be enough rainfall Friday to fill a glass, and that...
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:00 PM

View PostMassa, on 14 March 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

That guide is wrong. All those should mention Vettel, as without doubt the fact that the guy changes his helmet design an average 2.765 times per race means that eventually he will have to wear all those combinations. Kinda the one thousand monkeys with one thousand typewriters with one thousand helmets, all being eaten by Helmut Marko for Christmas (just the mokeys and typewriters, the helmets are usually sold after new year's day)

As for helmets, there was only one cool helmet, and that one was Trulli's with his silver...chromed...shiny...whatever helmet.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:08 PM

Hamilton's helmet is wrong. Looks like he's copying Vettel's idea of having a different design for every race.

This is Australia's design.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:41 PM

Copying Vettel?  He isn't the first driver to ever do different helmets for different races (Dan Wheldon did it every race for years, and he wasn't the first to do it, either)...and it looks like Hamilton is using the same design overall every week anyway with just a little touch to confuse people about his nationality (the American media still insists he is African-American; it would be politically incorrect to call him black and unpopular among journalists to research his actual heritage and nationality.  They could just refer to him as the fine racing driver he is, recognizing that the only race that matters in F1 is the one that takes place after the lights go out, but then they wouldn't even be covering it in the first place).  I guess drivers can't name their cars, either, that'd be copying Vettel, and they can't win poles and races, either, because that, too, has been legally protected by Vettel as something only he can do, and Barrister Alguersuari will be here any minute to defend that... :P

It ain't 100% accurate but I figure it's a nice spotters' guide for those of us (okay fine, for those of me) who need a little help telling the drivers apart.  For all I know they have graphics and stuff to tell you that but what's the fun in being told?
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:50 PM

View PostMassa, on 14 March 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

Copying Vettel?  He isn't the first driver to ever do different helmets for different races (Dan Wheldon did it every race for years, and he wasn't the first to do it, either)...and it looks like Hamilton is using the same design overall every week anyway with just a little touch to confuse people about his nationality (the American media still insists he is African-American; it would be politically incorrect to call him black and unpopular among journalists to research his actual heritage and nationality.  They could just refer to him as the fine racing driver he is, recognizing that the only race that matters in F1 is the one that takes place after the lights go out, but then they wouldn't even be covering it in the first place).  I guess drivers can't name their cars, either, that'd be copying Vettel, and they can't win poles and races, either, because that, too, has been legally protected by Vettel as something only he can do, and Barrister Alguersuari will be here any minute to defend that... :P

It ain't 100% accurate but I figure it's a nice spotters' guide for those of us (okay fine, for those of me) who need a little help telling the drivers apart.  For all I know they have graphics and stuff to tell you that but what's the fun in being told?

Fine, if you want to be pedantic about it, copying Vettel's idea in F1 only because Vettel is the only driver ever, ever, ever to change his helmet design for every race IN FORMULA ONE but that may or may not apply to all other forms of motorsport around the world, including but not being limited to - Indycar, NASCAR, Touring Cars, Le Mans, Rallying, MotoGP and lawnmower racing. How's that? :P

I kinda like the idea of drivers changing their helmet designs. I know Vettel and a few others got a lot of flack for doing it IN FORMULA ONE last season because some fans would rather just see a driver use one design his whole career, but hey, I like changes. I like seeing new helmet designs before every race.

I know. I'm sad. I need to get out more. :P

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:07 AM

I like the idea of drivers having designs that are personally meaningful to them rather than reflecting team colors.  I know they have their sponsors and I know you don't want anything to clash, but could you imagine if Senna had a white and Marlbororange helmet?  Then Bruno would have one, too!  Wouldn't that be something?!?!?!  History would be changed forever.

Okay fine, I guess it makes no difference, I just like when drivers have something personal...

...as long as it doesn't include any color Sebastian Vettel has ever liked, he was, after all, "FIRST!!!!!!1" ;)
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:23 AM

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 05:18 AM

View PostMassa, on 14 March 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

Copying Vettel?  He isn't the first driver to ever do different helmets for different races (Dan Wheldon did it every race for years, and he wasn't the first to do it, either)...and it looks like Hamilton is using the same design overall every week anyway with just a little touch to confuse people about his nationality (the American media still insists he is African-American; it would be politically incorrect to call him black and unpopular among journalists to research his actual heritage and nationality.  They could just refer to him as the fine racing driver he is, recognizing that the only race that matters in F1 is the one that takes place after the lights go out, but then they wouldn't even be covering it in the first place).  I guess drivers can't name their cars, either, that'd be copying Vettel, and they can't win poles and races, either, because that, too, has been legally protected by Vettel as something only he can do, and Barrister Alguersuari will be here any minute to defend that... :P

It ain't 100% accurate but I figure it's a nice spotters' guide for those of us (okay fine, for those of me) who need a little help telling the drivers apart.  For all I know they have graphics and stuff to tell you that but what's the fun in being told?

How can he be African-American....he's from England, so it would be African-English if you were trying to be half right, because his ancestory is Grenada, so he is infact Grenadan-English.

You dumb-arse Yankees... grrrrrr

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:29 AM

View PostMassa, on 15 March 2012 - 12:07 AM, said:

Okay fine, I guess it makes no difference, I just like when drivers have something personal...

You raise an interesting point - I'd love to know what Vettel's helmet design was before he became a Red Bull backed driver.

I mean, it seems as soon as you become a RB junior driver, you have to wear what is effectively a glorified can design. Okay, Webber's perhaps the only exception. But look at Ricciardo and Vergne's helmets for this year - good luck telling them apart from the grand stand this year or in a wide shot on TV.

A shame as the crash helmet is part of a racing driver's identity. Or if you're Kimi, it simply protects your head. I heard someone once say they thought it should be illegal for drivers to have sponsor logos on their helmet designs because otherwise it'd be like having a Red Bull logo on your finger print. Not exactly normal. :P

At least with Mercedes it is easy. They've colour co-ordinated their drivers. Rosberg with yellow helmet, gloves, boots and camera, and Schumacher with red helmet, gloves, boots and camera. That's geeky levels of attention to detail and very German like. :P

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:36 AM

This is Rich ! Mercedes apparently have some sort of rear-wing F-Duct System, which appears to've been Green-Lighted by Charlie Whiting. But Ross Brawn wont discuss what the system is, instead he goes into a soliloquy about "What is an F-duct" :P

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:52 AM

View PostHandyNZL, on 15 March 2012 - 05:18 AM, said:

How can he be African-American....he's from England, so it would be African-English if you were trying to be half right, because his ancestory is Grenada, so he is infact Grenadan-English.

You dumb-arse Yankees... grrrrrr

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Does it matter which comes first - is one from the paternal line and the other from the maternal?

Is Anglo-Grenadan the same as Grenadan-English?

EDIT - that makes no sense, of course one is paternal, one maternal, what I meant is, does the order signify which is which - you knew that. You're not stupid.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:30 AM

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"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:54 PM

Helmet watch again. Sorry for changing from something quite interesting. But this is cool so...

Heikki's helmet has changed. I don't like Angry Birds, but this is an original design.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 03:32 PM

Angry Birds in F1?  I am done with this sport.  I refuse to acknowledge the race, and I refuse to acknowledge Heikki Kovalainen as a licensed automobile racing driver.  Augh.

View PostHandyNZL, on 15 March 2012 - 05:18 AM, said:

How can he be African-American....he's from England, so it would be African-English if you were trying to be half right, because his ancestory is Grenada, so he is infact Grenadan-English.

You dumb-arse Yankees... grrrrrr

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:lol: That's the point I was making.  They are so dead-set on not using the term "black," which is not allowed in the United States, though Lewis himself has used it.  The socially acceptable term, in the media, is "African-American," and they are either so stupid they don't even realize that African-American means an American of African descent rather than any person of color, or they realize their audience is so stupid that Grenadan-English would mean nothing to them.  Trust me, I've corrected people on NASCAR forums about this before, and they told me that "Grenadan-English is his nationality African-American is his race." :P

I personally think the Australian Grand Prix is his race, to win or to lose, if the McLaren is what it's supposed to be...(come on, that was a good transition back).
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 06:00 PM

so tomorrow... 7:20 am SA time...I'm gonna be late for work sigh
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"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
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