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[Quiet One]

Rainmaster, on 19 July 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

I think he's saying that Kimi suffers more than Schumi and Alonso (and no doubt some others) when a car doesn't suit his driving style. It seems to me to be about adaptability; saying yes this guy can be really quick, but you have to give him a certain type of handling before that happens. Something which is less true of Alonso and Schumi (of old). There's room for interpretation though!

You definitely have to take the quote in the context of who it came from but at least in the case of Schumi and Kimi I don't see why he would be untruthful in any way. His comment on Alonso could just be seen as covering himself but then again I wouldn't dismiss it entirely either; it's not as if Alonso isn't a very complete driver.

Stella is not making anyy earth shattering revelations with his comments. A pity because he hints at some comments about Schumi's style of driving but he does not go beyond that. It would have been great if they let him explain the differences in more detail. As it is, all he says is that Kimi is less adaptable than Schumi and Alonso...well, duh. The Nando arse kissing is, as Button noted, formulaic. is not as if in the past days Alonso has evoked any praise from guys like Kovalainen, Brawn and Horner, James Allen and Gary Anderson all of whom just want to keep their jobs as well, right?

On the other hand, I recall an interview with Andrea Stella after Monaco 2010 iirc, I think it is the only other interview I read with him. It was not as over the top about Nando, but I think he commented about the need of feedback and data each driver demanded from him, Schumi being at the top "he wants to know EVERYTHING about the car and track" or something like that he said about MS, with Kimi wanting to know as little as possible and Alonso somewhere in the middle. Alonso was already his boss, yet he was not as ecstatic. Good for a comparison if somebody can find it. Will try to look for it when I get home.

[Ikyrotz]

Quiet One, on 19 July 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

On the other hand, I recall an interview with Andrea Stella after Monaco 2010 iirc, I think it is the only other interview I read with him. It was not as over the top about Nando, but I think he commented about the need of feedback and data each driver demanded from him, Schumi being at the top "he wants to know EVERYTHING about the car and track" or something like that he said about MS, with Kimi wanting to know as little as possible and Alonso somewhere in the middle. Alonso was already his boss, yet he was not as ecstatic. Good for a comparison if somebody can find it. Will try to look for it when I get home.

I believe the article you are looking for is this:


http://www.sport.es/...do-todos-843711

[Quiet One]

Quiet One, on 19 July 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

Stella is not making anyy earth shattering revelations with his comments. A pity because he hints at some comments about Schumi's style of driving but he does not go beyond that. It would have been great if they let him explain the differences in more detail. As it is, all he says is that Kimi is less adaptable than Schumi and Alonso...well, duh. The Nando arse kissing is, as Button noted, formulaic. is not as if in the past days Alonso has evoked any praise from guys like Kovalainen, Brawn and Horner, James Allen and Gary Anderson all of whom just want to keep their jobs as well, right?

On the other hand, I recall an interview with Andrea Stella after Monaco 2010 iirc, I think it is the only other interview I read with him. It was not as over the top about Nando, but I think he commented about the need of feedback and data each driver demanded from him, Schumi being at the top "he wants to know EVERYTHING about the car and track" or something like that he said about MS, with Kimi wanting to know as little as possible and Alonso somewhere in the middle. Alonso was already his boss, yet he was not as ecstatic. Good for a comparison if somebody can find it. Will try to look for it when I get home.

BTW, in both interviews (2010 and this one) you will notice that Andrea somehow hints that Kimi is the fastest of the trio when it comes to raw speed, provided that the car suits his style. Again, something most people says, but is good to know when these things come from the guys that actually worked  with them.
It would be great if they also asked Chris Dyer

[Quiet One]

Ikyrotz, on 19 July 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

I believe the article you are looking for is this:


http://www.sport.es/...do-todos-843711

YES! That was fast! Ok, I will try to translate it afterwards. Funny, Andrea sounds a lot more cautious about Nando back then

[BradSpeedMan]

Quiet One, on 19 July 2012 - 12:43 PM, said:

YES! That was fast! Ok, I will try to translate it afterwards. Funny, Andrea sounds a lot more cautious about Nando back then

yes yes translate

[pabloh20]

Quiet One, on 19 July 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

Stella is not making anyy earth shattering revelations with his comments. A pity because he hints at some comments about Schumi's style of driving but he does not go beyond that. It would have been great if they let him explain the differences in more detail. As it is, all he says is that Kimi is less adaptable than Schumi and Alonso...well, duh. The Nando arse kissing is, as Button noted, formulaic. is not as if in the past days Alonso has evoked any praise from guys like Kovalainen, Brawn and Horner, James Allen and Gary Anderson all of whom just want to keep their jobs as well, right?

On the other hand, I recall an interview with Andrea Stella after Monaco 2010 iirc, I think it is the only other interview I read with him. It was not as over the top about Nando, but I think he commented about the need of feedback and data each driver demanded from him, Schumi being at the top "he wants to know EVERYTHING about the car and track" or something like that he said about MS, with Kimi wanting to know as little as possible and Alonso somewhere in the middle. Alonso was already his boss, yet he was not as ecstatic. Good for a comparison if somebody can find it. Will try to look for it when I get home.

You have to remember that in 98.26% of all arse kissing statements, there is always an ulterior motive, my illustrious, charming, handsome friend.

[Quiet One]

pabloh20, on 19 July 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

You have to remember that in 98.26% of all arse kissing statements, there is always an ulterior motive, my illustrious, charming, handsome friend.

You are so right in everything you say!

Wait a minute...

Anyways, I disagree. It is rather obvious that figures can't be above 97,34% and thus not 98,26%. I am no n00b, you know?

BTW, you look so young and strong! Have you been working out?

[Argento Reloaded]

cause he can? or because kimi never answers...

[Quiet One]

Ok, I tried to translate as much as I could, it was really confusing at some points (Andrea Stella talks a lot more than Kimi!) I just edited out the parts related to that weekend in particular or about a race engineer's life (rather trivial replies there, not worth the effort). I also couldn't help buut add some pieces of my mind here and there:

Having been Alonso's race engineer for the past 6 GPs and after a very intense pre season, which lead you to know each other a little better, what has suprised you the most about Fernando?
When he first arrived to the team I tried not to hold many expectations, although I was rather impatient to see how things would develop and the whole team has been positively impressed about his team working capacity, establish relationships with the team personnel (guess they were expecting an insufferable prima donna! Q.O.) and his leading personality, at the same time that he was consolidating himself as a team worker. On the other side, as a driver, without a doubt his speed as after five or six laps at Valencia we have already taken measure of his raw speed. I was also surprised by his capacity  to adapt to every condition and circunstances, wringing  them to the max. Another thing I would remark about him  is that, as a team, we supported him and helped him on how  to optimize his performance on a track or a particular corner and it is notable the capacity he has to listen to what he is being told, and then to apply it with his natural talent.
To summarize, three points: a team worker, who knows how to work with the whole scuderia, his ability to be fast under any conditions and his capacity at the plant to work along with the engineers, to  listen and put those advice into practice to bgo faster.
Last year you used to work with Kimi, what are the differences besides the logical characteristics between a Finn and a Spaniard (??? wonder what did they mean with that! Q.O.)
One difference between Fernando and Kimi as a pilot is  that he (Nando) has a superior adaptability speed. When there is a sudden change in race conditions or when the car is not ´perfect, Fernando can acapt or compensate much quicker. On  the other hand, when the car is perfect, I must say that Kimi has a raw speed or a talent very strong. But a perfect car only comes up in 3 or 4 races during the whole season.
Are pilots too demanding with their engineers?
It is very important that a driver knows all the fundamental bits. For example, it is basic for the driver to know when he arrives to Monaco what does he need to go fast. But the level of detail for those depends on the driver. Some of them prefer to have all the details, like Schumacher and some others prefer less detail, like Kimi. Alonso would be somehwere in the middle, focus placed on the important things that should be very clear. Our job is also to know how much info to provide to each driver, as they must have enough to attain their objectives but not too much ("I don't wanna know!" as Alonso said when being told about Hamilton, anybody? Q.O.)
With two drivers willing to win as Alonso and Massa, is there any danger of disagreements between team personnel for each one? Is there some sort of competition?
In the ten years I've been at Ferrari I've never seen a tense situation between two drivers' teams. Perhaps among the pilots themselves, but never the team, as one of the vital requisites for my job is that we are Ferrari engineers and not of a pilot or another. Our interest lies in obtaining the maximum result for Ferrari and as a consequence, in my case it's the same as obtaining the best result for Alonso. Tthe interests are the same. I've never been in a conflict between drivers' teams.
Is Fernando a guy that always makes use of 100% of the car?
In a weekend like Barcelona I'd say yes, as he couldn't do anymore. At qualy he made a fantastic lap that placed him 4th, a place we did not expect as we thought that Merc or McLaren would be ahead. He was also perfect during the race. Anyways, this season start we all made mistakes, including Fernando, and the most  important thing is for us to stop making them (so much for arse kissing because he is your boss! Q.O.)

[Insider]

JV couldn't hold a candle to Kimi. End of.

[pabloh20]

Quiet One, on 19 July 2012 - 05:40 PM, said:

You are so right in everything you say!

Wait a minute...

Anyways, I disagree. It is rather obvious that figures can't be above 97,34% and thus not 98,26%. I am no n00b, you know?

BTW, you look so young and strong! Have you been working out?

It's a well known fact that 88.49% of statistics are made up on the spot, so I suspect your 97.34% is pure rubbish, my suave, debonair friend

It's true I do exercise a muscle every night, I knew you would notice even though you wear a blindfold.

[f1bettings]

Raikkonen and Grosjean are doing well in their Lotus cars and are great drivers. Villeneuve is bitter because Raikkonen is better and a driver in demand, unlike Villeneuve.