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[Quiet One]

Comment away.

Red Bull great candidates, so I predict Charles Pic winning here.

Most teams bringing upgrades. McLaren will bring a cartoon Whitmarsh. Ferrari an upgraded Massa 2.0. He still needs to be told when to turn and when to use his KERS, but he can follow orders 3.5% faster than before.

Red Bull will bring back their bottom hole. But enough talking about Dr.Marko.

Schumi will try to win, will not succeed and will give us his tired smilie and say he is still happy.

Lotus will definitely win this one.Except they won't. It is what it is. Chances of Grosjean smiling despite yet another non pole secured start (he has a 5 grid penalty for a gearbox change): 100%

Conclussion: it is clear from all of above that Kimi will win.

My 2 cents, anyways.

[Argento Reloaded]

What? Barrichelo is not in F1 anymore? Nevertheles I predict Massa will make another huge mistake and will pick a podium finish!!!!

[Massa]

Looking forward to babby's first Hockenheim.

Or at least the first Hockenheim I can remember.

Did they have a Hockenheim in 2006?  I probably watched it.  Maybe 2007?  I'm too old for this.

Well you know Vettel's going to win a race eventually, and his home race eventually, so it could definitely be possibly this weekend.  Another part of me thinks McLaren are going to get it right this time.  Another part of me thinks the Ferrari is good enough for Alonso to contend again.  Another part of me thinks there was definitely a Hockenheim race in 2006 and I probably saw it but I might also be thinking of Magny-Cours.  You know it's interesting because back in 2006 I had a Felipe Massa hat, #6, and he's #6 again this year so now I could wear that hat again if it still fit, which it doesn't, because being a moderator has made my head so big, or not being 13 years old anymore has, I'm not sure.

I look forward to enjoying the last afternoon race for a little while and the beginning of the two-leg segment of the last F1 races of summer that leave a barren and scary month of August where I'll probably watch old sports car races on YouTube on Sunday afternoons and pretend they're live.

But I don't have to do that this Sunday so that's good.  GO FELIPE!

[Quiet One]

Massa, on 16 July 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

Or at least the first Hockenheim I can remember.

Did they have a Hockenheim in 2006?  I probably watched it.  Maybe 2007?  I'm too old for this.

Yes there was a Hockenheim 2006, and it was quite a remarkable race. That was the first mass damper-less race for Renault,, after they were declared illegal, so it was also the first race the Renaults weren't on the podium. Schumi won it and I don't remember who else was on the podium but  probably it was Massa and Kimi (you didn't have that many options back then ) so shame on you for not remembering a Massa podium!

It was also the last race for Jacques Villeneuve in F1 before being replaced by Kubica meanwhile JV decided to pursue his much more succesful career as a singer.

[The Shadow]

It was also the scene for "Alonso is faster than you" in 2010

It could be Felipe's best result this year. His pace there in 2010 (best showing since the accident) was quite good.

[BradSpeedMan]

Achtung baby achtung!!!!

[BradSpeedMan]

HHHHHEEEEEEEEHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Jean-Pierre]

My two cents : I beleive it is going to be a Fernando-Vettel duel, with Grosjean and Webber near behind. Hamilton and Button out of the podium again.

[Massa]

Quiet One, on 16 July 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

Yes there was a Hockenheim 2006, and it was quite a remarkable race. That was the first mass damper-less race for Renault,, after they were declared illegal, so it was also the first race the Renaults weren't on the podium. Schumi won it and I don't remember who else was on the podium but  probably it was Massa and Kimi (you didn't have that many options back then ) so shame on you for not remembering a Massa podium!

It was also the last race for Jacques Villeneuve in F1 before being replaced by Kubica meanwhile JV decided to pursue his much more succesful career as a singer.

I knew it!

I was thinking "was Hockenheim the race Alonso was fifth without the mass damper and Schumacher won, or was that Magny-Cours" and sure enough it's Hockenheim.  I even remember Villeneuve crashing, and I even watched qualifying for that race because I distinctly remember Räikkönen on pole.

Which means I am an expert when it comes to Hockenheim and now all my opinions can be taken as fact!  Hooray!

[dribbler]

Clearly this will be an intense battle between cars with drivers in them. There will be engines which will be switched on and helping to move the cars forward. The cars will go around a track which will be made from tarmac. The tarmac will be black, as will the tyres which are connected to wheels. All of the cars have wheels, these are fitted to the cars. To re-cap,the cars are the things with drivers in them.

The person at the front will be the one who crosses the finish line before anyone else. The car furthest behind the winning car will be the one which is last.

Weather may make it better, whether it be Webber who wins or whether (if it's wet weather) it means crashes and maybe failing teathers. Willi Weber will still prefer wet weather, however.

Most of the overcast weather will come from the sky. SKY will broadcast as will the BBC.

The German Grand Prx will be in Germany which is not in France. France is still in France and will remain so until further notice.

All steering wheels which turn the wheels to the left have the opposite effect of those which are turned to the right. This is of course unless the driver is facing the opposite way which then means he is not facing forwards. In this situation reverse gear will have to be deployed, almost certainly meaning the Grand Prix will last longer than two hours. If this happens, the race will be stopped. Or it may be re started when all drivers have returned to facing the front.

Only races that have been started can be stopped. Those races not started will almost certainly be races which are not going to finish. Any races which has finished will not be able to start again due to it being over.

[Quiet One]

dribbler, on 16 July 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

Clearly this will be an intense battle between cars with drivers in them. There will be engines which will be switched on and helping to move the cars forward. The cars will go around a track which will be made from tarmac. The tarmac will be black, as will the tyres which are connected to wheels. All of the cars have wheels, these are fitted to the cars. To re-cap,the cars are the things with drivers in them.

The person at the front will be the one who crosses the finish line before anyone else. The car furthest behind the winning car will be the one which is last.

Weather may make it better, whether it be Webber who wins or whether (if it's wet weather) it means crashes and maybe failing teathers. Willi Weber will still prefer wet weather, however.

Most of the overcast weather will come from the sky. SKY will broadcast as will the BBC.

The German Grand Prx will be in Germany which is not in France. France is still in France and will remain so until further notice.

All steering wheels which turn the wheels to the left have the opposite effect of those which are turned to the right. This is of course unless the driver is facing the opposite way which then means he is not facing forwards. In this situation reverse gear will have to be deployed, almost certainly meaning the Grand Prix will last longer than two hours. If this happens, the race will be stopped. Or it may be re started when all drivers have returned to facing the front.

Only races that have been started can be stopped. Those races not started will almost certainly be races which are not going to finish. Any races which has finished will not be able to start again due to it being over.

Your knowledge of all things F1 is amazing! Is that you, Eddie jordan?

BTW, your mention of the GP being held in Germany reminded me of the GPs in Germany that were not German, when Nurburgring was known as the Luxembourg GP, just like Imola was the San Marino Gp despite Nurburgring not being in Luxembourg and Imola not being in San Marino.

Therefore, I propose going back to those times. From now on, the Montreal GP shall be known as the Argentinian GP, to be held at Montreal. Silverstone will be the French GP, Abu Dhabi will be the Bahrain GP and viceversa (those two are easy to switch around and are probably closer than Nurburgring to Luxembourg)

Hockenheim will be known as the Israeli GP, Valencia as the Disney World GP ("The most entertaining GP in the world!"), Australia as the Craig's GP (and the circuit renamed to the Webberring, because I also miss the times when half the grid was called the some-random-track-name-ring) and so forth.

[LabradoRacer]

Hopefully Schumi will get a podium as this track isn't infested with high-speed corners.

[Massa]

Quiet One, on 16 July 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

BTW, your mention of the GP being held in Germany reminded me of the GPs in Germany that were not German, when Nurburgring was known as the Luxembourg GP, just like Imola was the San Marino Gp despite Nurburgring not being in Luxembourg and Imola not being in San Marino.

Therefore, I propose going back to those times. From now on, the Montreal GP shall be known as the Argentinian GP, to be held at Montreal. Silverstone will be the French GP, Abu Dhabi will be the Bahrain GP and viceversa (those two are easy to switch around and are probably closer than Nurburgring to Luxembourg)

Hockenheim will be known as the Israeli GP, Valencia as the Disney World GP ("The most entertaining GP in the world!"), Australia as the Craig's GP (and the circuit renamed to the Webberring, because I also miss the times when half the grid was called the some-random-track-name-ring) and so forth.

The thing that bothers me to no end, and by no end I mean no end because it doesn't bother me to any beginning, either, but the thing that doesn't bother me but I'm pointing out anyway is that 15 of the Grands Prix are named "(demonym) Grand Prix," while 5 are named "(country) Grand Prix."  It is very inconsistent to me and I think it's just another example of how the FIA are unfit to run this sport and should have banned Alonso years ago when he used the EA Sports NASCAR 06: Total Team Control video game feature of swapping rides with one's teammate to sabotage Lewis Hamilton's 2007 Brazilian Grand Prix which, had it been the Brazil Grand Prix, would have been won by Hamilton, who would now have thirty-six Worldlian (and not World) Driving titles, leading you to wonder why I just typed out "thirty-six" when I had previously used "15" and "5" in a complaint about consistency, but perhaps you should take comfort in the fact I know how to spell consistent and very few in my country, which hosts the United States Grand Prix rather than the U.S. American Grand Prix or the more reflective of our race naming conventions, factually inaccurate race distance and all, Education Connection¹ presents the You Don't Have To Be Lonely At Farmers Only² 200 cleansed by Dr. Beth Ley's Colon Flow³ and driven by The Relion Group⁴, do.

Regards,
Eric

(You do spell consistent with an "e," right, or am I thinking about Magny-Cours again)?

¹ Yes that's a real ad and yes they show it frequently during F1 races here.

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³ Yes that's a real ad and yes they show it frequently during F1 races here.

⁴ Yes that's a real ad and yes they show it frequently during F1 races here.

There.  Now you've experienced an F1 race from my perspective.

[JHS18]

Probably give this one a miss. Off to Silverstone for the weekend, and on the basis that BBC aren't showing this race live, I doubt I'll have time/effort to watch the highlights.

Besides, the new Hockenheim sucks compared to the old version they used to run in the 90s and early part of the noughties (I used that horrid word, don't hate me for it) when cars were reaching speeds of 230mph plus and Burti took off and a man invaded the track and Barrichello won from the back and cried and and and....

Edited by JHS18, 16 July 2012 - 07:31 PM.

[Quiet One]

I agree and keep saying it every year: the new Hockenheimring has as much personality as a hard disk. (except for my hard disk: its name is "Stiffy" and...sorry...)

Those were races where you were bored because overtaking was not precisely a must in a race comprised mostly of quasi straights,  but engines were a lot more fragile in those days so races were plenty of cars leaving those beautiful smoke screens behind them as they started to fail one after another.

Races like those would probably make everybody call for public lynching of the track designer and Bernie and FIA and Alonso and Chávez. And whoever win would not be considered today as a rightful winner as he will have probably won because 10 cars ahead of the winner blown their engines. Good thing they are not around anymore so we can complaint about how beautiful they looked with all the trees and treat those races as if they were some sort of continuous epic battle which they rarely were.

That being said, I loved them back in  the day. Not sure if I was a massochist or we were less demanding than nowadays.

[Massa]

Well, James, if you prefer tracks that still have their original layouts, I'll be seeing you in Abu Dhabi.  It's one of the few tracks that's preserved all its history and I'd hate for them to redesign it.

[Quiet One]

Very very on topic, this is...I don't know what is this.

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What is Obama doing??? Spending millions on some F1 track nobody cares about when people has to cope with THIS? Nobody thinks about the children?????

More rifles, that's what we need.

I tell ya.

[JHS18]

Massa, on 16 July 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

Well, James, if you prefer tracks that still have their original layouts, I'll be seeing you in Abu Dhabi.  It's one of the few tracks that's preserved all its history and I'd hate for them to redesign it.

Hahaha no. 3 years might make something historic in America, but over here when we talk about history we're talking about something that was around at least...in the 90s.

YOU'RE NOT A 90s KID IF YOU CAN'T REMEMBER THE OLD HOCKENHEIM!!!!!

[Massa]

Anything interesting happen in practice, guys?

[Quiet One]

Wet, then dry, then wet, then dry...

Maccas on top.

Cars going off.

Germans invading Poland.

You know, the usual.

[Jean-Pierre]

Lotus new upgrade might do it for them; same is true for Mac. So we might have a fight with four really strong teams capable of winnig.

If I'm right, we should have only two drivers out of the rest of the teams for the last qualifying session : Maldonado and Perez.

That is a lot of ifs...

[BradSpeedMan]

Jean-Pierre, on 20 July 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

Lotus new upgrade might do it for them; same is true for Mac. So we might have a fight with four really strong teams capable of winnig.

If I'm right, we should have only two drivers out of the rest of the teams for the last qualifying session : Maldonado and Perez.

That is a lot of ifs...

IF Germany did'nt make a fuss over how much debt it owed it's suppliers for telegram poles, there would'nt have been a World War 2

[The Shadow]

Jean-Pierre, on 20 July 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

If I'm right, we should have only two drivers out of the rest of the teams for the last qualifying session : Maldonado and Perez.

Both of 'em on the same row??

That would be a first corner to remember

[Grabthaw the Hammerslayer]

Quiet One, on 20 July 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

Germans invading Poland.

Ah crap, we don't have to declare war on them again do we?







(don't mention the war, I did it once, but think I got away with it!)

[Jean-Pierre]

BradSpeedMan, on 20 July 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

IF Germany did'nt make a fuss over how much debt it owed it's suppliers for telegram poles, there would'nt have been a World War 2

IF there were no if"s, there would not be a F1 forum, where everyone specutates; it is just a question on how much we can stretch an if and if the reason for stretching is good.

I believe my motive for stretching is good because many f1 fans would like to see a very fight between the four best teams's driver going for it from the start, with the two crazies at the back.

If you understand what I mean.

[Quiet One]

A pretty intense Q1 and a small miracle from MSC. When  the top guys were confident that they have secured Q2, the guys from midfield started posting much more competitive times forcing them all to come out for a frantic end of session with rain already menacing.

MSC suddenly found himself out with time for just one lap and rain drizzling on the circuit...yet he managed to make it to Q2. You could say he barely did it as he finished only 17th, but 17th with primes, on a wet Hockenheim finishing only 1s behind P1 by Kimi done in much better conditions is no small feat.

[Quiet One]

Ok, and now two amazing laps from LH and MSC in Q2 under puring rain, when everybody was going backwards with times the both moved forward dramatically.

[Quiet One]

P1 for Alonso in a final qualy session which was almost nothing about cars and almost everything about drivers.

Gentlemen, start your arse kissing engines

[LabradoRacer]

Staggering pace from Alonso. Hopefully he will have another loss from pole.

Schumi gave me quite a scare in Q1. Nice that he's starting 3rd, though it's a hand-me-down. Was hoping for Schumi to qualify higher. Dunno where the pace went.

Button's over the moon that he made it to Q3 and qualified ahead of Hammy.

Good show by Hulk, unhappy about Maldonado so high up.

[Massa]

Massa sucks.