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#181 Rainmaster

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 02:24 AM

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 02:36 AM

View PostRainmaster, on 11 October 2012 - 02:24 AM, said:

(Standard YouTube comment): Was that filmed with a potato?
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:51 AM

View PostAleHop, on 11 October 2012 - 01:22 AM, said:

Surely Kimi's car needed an extra inch to be able to stay on the tarmac, right?

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This is what I'm saying, Alonso swerved left 3 times from the starting line forcing Kimi left all the time!!! Whats happening here is that these shots are happening in less than a second...See what happens b4 the 1st frame here!!!

Edited by BradSpeedMan, 11 October 2012 - 08:52 AM.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 11:28 AM

View PostAleHop, on 11 October 2012 - 01:22 AM, said:

Surely Kimi's car needed an extra inch to be able to stay on the tarmac, right?

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What are you actually trying to suggest here?
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 02:23 PM

I'm not trying to suggest anything. I said how I saw the incident a few posts back. What that video suggest to you or Brad is a different matter. Alonso pushed Raikkonen to the limit of the track, how can you and Brad assure he pushed him OUT is beyond my ruler.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 02:37 PM

When you slow it down that much, I think you're really just seeing Räikkönen's reaction time.  Alonso has already turned away from Räikkönen before Räikkönen goes off, correct, but Räikkönen went off reacting to Alonso's creeping, and his reaction time obviously has some delay from Alonso's moves.

Conclusion: it's still no one's fault at all.  Just a tough deal for Alonso, a good deal for Vettel, and a possibly bad deal for fans (it's not a close battle when Vettel has a knife and Alonso has a big red pillow...you want it to be separated by 4 going into the final round, not the deputy-vice-lieutenant-penultimate round...having Alonso have a cushion slowly depleted by Vettel would have been more fun for me, the neutral viewer who might secretly like Alonso and the new, lovably lost Ferrari...).  A normal start to the race with normal moves gone wrong.  It happens.
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:05 PM

View PostAleHop, on 11 October 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

I'm not trying to suggest anything. I said how I saw the incident a few posts back. What that video suggest to you or Brad is a different matter. Alonso pushed Raikkonen to the limit of the track, how can you and Brad assure he pushed him OUT is beyond my ruler.
Are u trying to tell me that Alonso left Kimi adequate space??? I've also emphasied that you consider the reaction time at full speed. What we are seeing here is snapshots at slo-mo

Eric, no, Alonso is at fault, I think everyone but Alonso fans can see it
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:11 PM

View PostBradSpeedMan, on 11 October 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

Eric, no, Alonso is at fault, I think everyone but Alonso fans can see it
:lol: Awww shut up you wind up merchant. That's not true and you know it! :P
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:11 PM

View PostAleHop, on 11 October 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

I'm not trying to suggest anything. I said how I saw the incident a few posts back. What that video suggest to you or Brad is a different matter. Alonso pushed Raikkonen to the limit of the track, how can you and Brad assure he pushed him OUT is beyond my ruler.

Use your ruler to measure how much Alonso twitched and moved over in response to Button coming up his inside and take into consideration how far Button was away from Alonso.  Then use that to gauge if Kimi went off track in response to Alonso.  If you still come to the same conclusion, fair enough.  You're wrong, obviously, but fair enough :whistling:
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:15 PM

View PostQuiet One, on 11 October 2012 - 03:11 PM, said:

Posted Image Awww shut up you wind up merchant. That's not true and you know it! Posted Image

What??  We're only allowed to play the blame game when Lewis is involved???? :lol:
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:17 PM

View Postpabloh20, on 11 October 2012 - 03:11 PM, said:

Use your ruler to measure how much Alonso twitched and moved over in response to Button coming up his inside and take into consideration how far Button was away from Alonso.  Then use that to gauge if Kimi went off track in response to Alonso.  If you still come to the same conclusion, fair enough.  You're wrong, obviously, but fair enough Posted Image
hehehehehhehehehe
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“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”

"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:23 PM

View PostBradSpeedMan, on 11 October 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

Eric, no, Alonso is at fault, I think everyone but Alonso fans can see it
Eric is quite cold headed and objective fan. Alonso may be at fault of everything else, at fault of pushing Kimi OUT? No. :)

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Fray Luis de León wrote mystical poems which prompted Cervantes to proclaim León "a genius who astounds the world and who, in ecstasy, might rob us of our senses." León was also an active man who taught at the University of Salamanca, translated classical and biblical literature, and wrote on religious themes. Twice denounced before the Inquisition, he was imprisoned for "heresy," though he returned to the University to later hold the chairs of Moral Philosophy and Biblical Studies.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:27 PM

View Postpabloh20, on 11 October 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

What??  We're only allowed to play the blame game when Lewis is involved???? :lol:
That type of blame fits perfectly here. :rolleyes:

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As we were saying yesterday...
Fray Luis de León wrote mystical poems which prompted Cervantes to proclaim León "a genius who astounds the world and who, in ecstasy, might rob us of our senses." León was also an active man who taught at the University of Salamanca, translated classical and biblical literature, and wrote on religious themes. Twice denounced before the Inquisition, he was imprisoned for "heresy," though he returned to the University to later hold the chairs of Moral Philosophy and Biblical Studies.

Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:35 PM

View PostAleHop, on 11 October 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:

That type of blame fits perfectly here. Posted Image

Apparently so Posted Image

I think most people, maybe with the exception of Brad would accept it was a racing incident.  However, when you start trying to make Kimi a scapegoat, then you have to accept a counter argument.
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:49 PM

View Postpabloh20, on 11 October 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

I think most people, maybe with the exception of Brad would accept it was a racing incident.  However, when you start trying to make Kimi a scapegoat, then you have to accept a counter argument.

Nobody tried to make Kimi a scapegoat. On the other hand, he's Grosjean's teammate and, as we say in Spain, todo se pega menos la hermosura. :whistling:

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As we were saying yesterday...
Fray Luis de León wrote mystical poems which prompted Cervantes to proclaim León "a genius who astounds the world and who, in ecstasy, might rob us of our senses." León was also an active man who taught at the University of Salamanca, translated classical and biblical literature, and wrote on religious themes. Twice denounced before the Inquisition, he was imprisoned for "heresy," though he returned to the University to later hold the chairs of Moral Philosophy and Biblical Studies.

Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 04:59 PM

View Postpabloh20, on 11 October 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

What??  We're only allowed to play the blame game when Lewis is involved???? Posted Image

I am not contesting any interpretations, however contrived as I might regard it about who you prefer to blame on this racing incident.
I am merely contesting the point that this was not a racing incident, that Alonso is at fault and that only Alonso fans deny it. All three points are untrue.

You are most welcome to keep trying to find a damning frame as much as you wish, but I must warn you: I won't follow you anymore on tweeter, FFS.
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:21 PM

View PostAleHop, on 11 October 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

Nobody tried to make Kimi a scapegoat. On the other hand, he's Grosjean's teammate and, as we say in Spain, todo se pega menos la hermosura. Posted Image

You seemed to be having an attempt at it.  We have saying here in England, if the cap fits, wear it.

View PostQuiet One, on 11 October 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

I am not contesting any interpretations, however contrived as I might regard it about who you prefer to blame on this racing incident.
I am merely contesting the point that this was not a racing incident, that Alonso is at fault and that only Alonso fans deny it. All three points are untrue.

You are most welcome to keep trying to find a damning frame as much as you wish, but I must warn you: I won't follow you anymore on tweeter, FFS.

I don't prefer to blame anyone as I have said previously on the subject, unlike some other people with some other incidents, Mr Ranty :whistling:

Ah twitter..........the clue is in the name, I believe.
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:34 PM

View PostQuiet One, on 11 October 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

I am not contesting any interpretations, however contrived as I might regard it about who you prefer to blame on this racing incident.
I am merely contesting the point that this was not a racing incident, that Alonso is at fault and that only Alonso fans deny it. All three points are true.

You are most welcome to keep trying to find a damning frame as much as you wish, but I must warn you: I won't follow you anymore on tweeter, FFS.
Thats sounds more like th truth
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:35 PM

View Postpabloh20, on 11 October 2012 - 07:21 PM, said:

I don't prefer to blame anyone as I have said previously on the subject, unlike some other people with some other incidents, Mr Ranty Posted Image
My "you" in my previous post was misleading. My bad, I know you agree on the racing incident bit!

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Ah twitter..........the clue is in the name, I believe.
Well said! Wait...didn't you tell  me before that the actual spelling was Twatter? :eusa_think:
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:36 PM

View PostBradSpeedMan, on 11 October 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

Thats sounds more like th truth
You asked for it...no more Twatter following for you either. FFS!
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:42 PM

View PostQuiet One, on 11 October 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

You asked for it...no more Twatter following for you either. FFS!
I detect a little sensitivity part from the Quiet One on this issuePosted Image
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"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:50 PM

View PostQuiet One, on 11 October 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

My "you" in my previous post was misleading. My bad, I know you agree on the racing incident bit!


Well said! Wait...didn't you tell  me before that the actual spelling was Twatter? Posted Image

Either spelling works :lol:
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:59 PM

View Postpabloh20, on 11 October 2012 - 07:21 PM, said:

You seemed to be having an attempt at it.  We have saying here in England, if the cap fits, wear it.

Admit you're very bad at these type of sayings for the rest of the world to understand them.


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As we were saying yesterday...
Fray Luis de León wrote mystical poems which prompted Cervantes to proclaim León "a genius who astounds the world and who, in ecstasy, might rob us of our senses." León was also an active man who taught at the University of Salamanca, translated classical and biblical literature, and wrote on religious themes. Twice denounced before the Inquisition, he was imprisoned for "heresy," though he returned to the University to later hold the chairs of Moral Philosophy and Biblical Studies.

Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:41 PM

"The initial incident was predominantly caused by the actions of Alonso, but not in a manner that warranted penalty or reflects negatively on his abilities given how common such actions are in these situations, how many factors exist in these situations, and how Alonso de-committed before Räikkönen was actually off the track" would be my long-winded way of calling that a racing incident.

The rest is a re-entry I'd have to see again but don't care enough to because I highly doubt Räikkönen would do anything really stupid (but would love it if he did it on purpose, even though I know he didn't :P), and I highly doubt Alonso's gravitational pull rivals Nigel Mansell's enough to suck the Lotus into his own tire.

All in all, you're correct if you blame Alonso, you're correct if you blame Räikkönen, you're correct if you blame both, and you're correct if you blame neither, which is usually the sign of a thing that just kind of happened.

Admittedly, I have a much harder time being open-minded to criticizing the driving of these halves of Ferrari and Lotus over their teammates.  I just assume if Alonso or Räikkönen did something, it couldn't have been reckless, and I'm not American enough to believe Alonso deliberately and pre-meditatively forced Räikkönen out and that Räikkönen deliberately and pre-meditatively slashed Alonso's tire.
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:45 PM

View PostAleHop, on 11 October 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

Admit you're very bad at these type of sayings for the rest of the world to understand them.


I presume you understand irony?
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 10:19 PM

View Postpabloh20, on 11 October 2012 - 09:45 PM, said:

I presume you understand irony?


I think so. No offence intended. Sorry. Posted Image

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As we were saying yesterday...
Fray Luis de León wrote mystical poems which prompted Cervantes to proclaim León "a genius who astounds the world and who, in ecstasy, might rob us of our senses." León was also an active man who taught at the University of Salamanca, translated classical and biblical literature, and wrote on religious themes. Twice denounced before the Inquisition, he was imprisoned for "heresy," though he returned to the University to later hold the chairs of Moral Philosophy and Biblical Studies.

Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 10:31 PM

Eric said it all. Love the video.
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 10:42 PM

View PostRainmaster, on 11 October 2012 - 10:31 PM, said:

Eric said it all. Love the video.

Agree with both.

You mean the potato video, right? :D

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As we were saying yesterday...
Fray Luis de León wrote mystical poems which prompted Cervantes to proclaim León "a genius who astounds the world and who, in ecstasy, might rob us of our senses." León was also an active man who taught at the University of Salamanca, translated classical and biblical literature, and wrote on religious themes. Twice denounced before the Inquisition, he was imprisoned for "heresy," though he returned to the University to later hold the chairs of Moral Philosophy and Biblical Studies.

Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 07:58 AM

This is more like it...


Indeed, Ferrari’s Alonso said in Korea that Raikkonen has nothing to apologise for, even though it was the Lotus driver who cut his rear tyre at Suzuka a week ago.
“It was an unlucky situation with the front wing of Kimi and my rear tyre,” he said, answering “No” as to whether Raikkonen should apologise.


nice one Alonso! keep it up and you might get some respect from me!
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“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”

"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
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Posted 12 October 2012 - 08:13 AM

View PostBradSpeedMan, on 12 October 2012 - 07:58 AM, said:


“It was an unlucky situation with the front wing of Kimi and my rear tyre,” he said, answering “No” as to whether Raikkonen should apologise.


That's pretty much it in a nutshell.  Fair play.
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