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Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:07 PM
Not that much different from last year's car, but kind of expected that anyway given no major regulations change for this year. And teams do their best to disguise the new bits till the first race anyway...
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:41 PM
Pains me to have to say this but...that's one fugly car! Why, oh why did they do that? Too many logos, too much red...
I want my beautiful Lotus in black and gold back!
This is all Kimi's fault.
And Brad's.
I want my beautiful Lotus in black and gold back!
This is all Kimi's fault.
And Brad's.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:06 PM
Who is Himi? Is this a new driver signing?
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:17 PM
Was an online launch and the video is on their YouTube channel (there is also a longer video around two hours, but that's just the same video as below but on a loop, strangely).
And a better way to spend 14 and a half minutes of your life:
No, seriously, back on topic, that is definitely a new Lotus car. Well done to them.
And a better way to spend 14 and a half minutes of your life:
No, seriously, back on topic, that is definitely a new Lotus car. Well done to them.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:53 PM
Well, well...last time I saw such a lively crowd was at the Soviet Premier Leonid Brezhnev's funeral.
Himi (?) Raikkonen was definitely the merriest person there.
Just because: Romain's significant other. Why do we call him a loser, again?
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Himi (?) Raikkonen was definitely the merriest person there.
Just because: Romain's significant other. Why do we call him a loser, again?
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"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the Universe, and it has a longer shelf life" - Frank Zappa
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:31 PM
Romain for world champ this year...no doubt in my mind! He will not lose anything all year!
Although he might keep dropping his pencil....
Although he might keep dropping his pencil....
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:34 PM
She looks like she's old enough to be his mother.
The Lotus E21 looks like it's old enough to be its mother, the E20. That's not unexpected, though.
I don't like the livery (I want the Camel colors if we have to do Lotus knock-offs, personally), but we're one step closer to F1 now, right? That's a good thing.
The line of thinking that 2013 will be a continuation of 2012 seems to be about right, and that, too, is a good thing. It was still very, very competitive as the season closed.
The Lotus E21 looks like it's old enough to be its mother, the E20. That's not unexpected, though.
I don't like the livery (I want the Camel colors if we have to do Lotus knock-offs, personally), but we're one step closer to F1 now, right? That's a good thing.
The line of thinking that 2013 will be a continuation of 2012 seems to be about right, and that, too, is a good thing. It was still very, very competitive as the season closed.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:58 PM
Dare I say it, but McLaren may have a stepped nose....
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:16 AM
HandyNZL, on 28 January 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:
Dare I say it, but McLaren may have a stepped nose....
"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the Universe, and it has a longer shelf life" - Frank Zappa
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:06 AM
I kinda like the red in the car... I think the red color will grow on us later in the season. I wonder why they are not using "gold" instead of that "cream" color... well...
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:43 AM
Quiet One, on 28 January 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:
Pains me to have to say this but...that's one fugly car! Why, oh why did they do that? Too many logos, too much red...
I want my beautiful Lotus in black and gold back!
I want my beautiful Lotus in black and gold back!
My god, that car is UGLY!!!! I'm so flippin disappointed!!!
Edited by BradSpeedMan, 29 January 2013 - 01:54 AM.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 02:36 AM
They allowed for a piece to be fitted over the step, but to be made from a prescribed type of material...Lotus has said it's too heavy....so it's out the window...
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 02:42 AM
ecapdeville, on 29 January 2013 - 01:06 AM, said:
I wonder why they are not using "gold" instead of that "cream" color... well...
They have alternated between the two a few times. The original JPS Lotuses used both the cream and the gold, so either one is historically accurate. I think the gold looks better...
...but what matters is if it's a contender or not. I just want the same excitement we've been spoiled with, and Lotus having a good car will be part of keeping that going.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 04:57 AM
It will appear "gold" on TV, which is what they do the livery for...for example, the Marlboro McLarens were not red and white, but an orange and white, and the Jaguar was trying to get BRG to come across, but failed at it (using BRG would have been near black on TV); they got a sparkly green instead...
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 08:59 AM
Sidepods are slightly changed...McLarenesque wing over sidepod entry...exhaust repositioned...more red paint....
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:46 PM
Massa, on 28 January 2013 - 11:34 PM, said:
She looks like she's old enough to be his mother.
The Lotus E21 looks like it's old enough to be its mother, the E20. That's not unexpected, though.
I don't like the livery (I want the Camel colors if we have to do Lotus knock-offs, personally), but we're one step closer to F1 now, right? That's a good thing.
The line of thinking that 2013 will be a continuation of 2012 seems to be about right, and that, too, is a good thing. It was still very, very competitive as the season closed.
The Lotus E21 looks like it's old enough to be its mother, the E20. That's not unexpected, though.
I don't like the livery (I want the Camel colors if we have to do Lotus knock-offs, personally), but we're one step closer to F1 now, right? That's a good thing.
The line of thinking that 2013 will be a continuation of 2012 seems to be about right, and that, too, is a good thing. It was still very, very competitive as the season closed.
I was at least expecting not to see the stepped nose on this car, to me it feels like the old car with a new painting job.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 08:52 PM
I don't dislike the red, but I agree that gold would be nicer for the sponsors.
Otherwise... gotta wait and see if it's any good compared to the other cars.
Otherwise... gotta wait and see if it's any good compared to the other cars.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:55 PM
I too expected the duck noses to be gone this year. We'll see what the other teams come up with. Fingers crossed!
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:28 PM
Despite the FIA's best efforts with vanity panels, you're not going to get a racing team to put anything on their car that isn't giving them a performance advantage.
As for cream vs. gold, there is no one JPS Lotus color:
I saw Mario Andretti's Lotus restored and in-person. Was somewhere between cream and gold, but certainly not metallic/shiny.
And as for the red, well, it's best not to forget the liveries this team used in the ING days, and be thankful now we only have a little bit of red to be sad about.
As for cream vs. gold, there is no one JPS Lotus color:
I saw Mario Andretti's Lotus restored and in-person. Was somewhere between cream and gold, but certainly not metallic/shiny.
And as for the red, well, it's best not to forget the liveries this team used in the ING days, and be thankful now we only have a little bit of red to be sad about.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:45 AM
I'm not too bothered by the nose, as last year it was far from the worst. They probably have the nicest stepped nose, if there is such a thing...
Not bothered about black and gold either. On the basis they haven't got anything to do with Lotus in the slightest, I'd really rather they didn't. Still find it quite amusing they are even still called Lotus to be honest.
Oh, and because drivers change their crash helmet designs constantly these days, here are Kimi's and Romain's design for this season.
Not bothered about black and gold either. On the basis they haven't got anything to do with Lotus in the slightest, I'd really rather they didn't. Still find it quite amusing they are even still called Lotus to be honest.
Oh, and because drivers change their crash helmet designs constantly these days, here are Kimi's and Romain's design for this season.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:27 PM
Massa, on 29 January 2013 - 11:28 PM, said:
Despite the FIA's best efforts with vanity panels, you're not going to get a racing team to put anything on their car that isn't giving them a performance advantage.
As for cream vs. gold, there is no one JPS Lotus color:
I saw Mario Andretti's Lotus restored and in-person. Was somewhere between cream and gold, but certainly not metallic/shiny.
And as for the red, well, it's best not to forget the liveries this team used in the ING days, and be thankful now we only have a little bit of red to be sad about.
As for cream vs. gold, there is no one JPS Lotus color:
I saw Mario Andretti's Lotus restored and in-person. Was somewhere between cream and gold, but certainly not metallic/shiny.
And as for the red, well, it's best not to forget the liveries this team used in the ING days, and be thankful now we only have a little bit of red to be sad about.
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