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#1 JHS18

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:04 PM

Rather like the new livery, even if it does remind me somewhat of a HRT...
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:33 PM

More liek halfway between an HRT and a Macca. Nice car!

Will never understand why so many teams used white as their main color in the past. Made the cars look like expensive toilet appliances.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 01:20 PM

ok, so the step noses actually makes the cars look more aggresive!

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 01:30 PM

Nice. I hope the Hulk does good things in it.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:31 PM

That step nose is spunky...making clever use of the vanity plank....looks like a sixther or seventher...maybe a podiumer

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:59 PM

Definitely my favorite snout so far.  Hülkenberg will do some nice things this year, I bet, which will take some attention off all the things his teammate won't do.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:50 PM

I just know that I like it, it looks pretty good, this season might actually be better than last one according to the look of the new cars, let's hope that the change in the new Pirelli is not a season spoiler.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:15 AM

Looks.... erm, skinny. Maybe it's just the lens angle.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:39 AM

The most significant thing is the sidepod. If sauber pull this off, it could be exciting indeed for the 2013 season. So much reduced drag, but will it produce as much downforce as the others? Cooling will be key as well
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:22 PM

View PostThe Shadow, on 03 February 2013 - 04:39 AM, said:

The most significant thing is the sidepod. If sauber pull this off, it could be exciting indeed for the 2013 season. So much reduced drag, but will it produce as much downforce as the others? Cooling will be key as well

Would reduced drag cause more brake wear?  I'm only just starting to even try to understand things (and it's not going well :lol:), so excuse me if I'm totally missing the point.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:06 PM

View PostMassa, on 03 February 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

Would reduced drag cause more brake wear?  I'm only just starting to even try to understand things (and it's not going well Posted Image), so excuse me if I'm totally missing the point.

2 things slow a car's acceleration, namely mass (weight) & aerodynamic drag. Think of a car as a submarine travelling through water and you're halfway there. An ideal speed machine has very low drag (think drag racers), but to stick to the ground during corners you need wings and other surfaces to generate downforce.

The sauber's sidepod design will surely reduce drag due to it being less obtrusive to passing air, but the other teams use the increased surface area to help generate downforce. The key (no pun intended) to their design is to reduce drag without compromising the generated downforce available. In their case, I figure that with less obstruction, the air does not have to be so drastically channeled to the rear diffuser (the angle of the airflow would be less steep). Time will tell whether their solution works or not, but I'd find this a very interesting idea, and much more of an innovation than seen on the mclaren, which looks like a likely frontrunner (at this point in time)
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:08 PM

In a technical sense reduced aero drag will increase brake wear, though a very minute amount.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:54 PM

Thanks for the explanation. :thbup:
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:29 PM

The nose looks predatory, as has been mentioned. The color scheme reminds me of some team's pre-season colours a couple of years ago (Lotus?) that turned into something completely different for season start -.-'
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:28 PM

View PostThe Shadow, on 03 February 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

In a technical sense reduced aero drag will increase brake wear, though a very minute amount.
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Edited by BradSpeedMan, 04 February 2013 - 08:30 PM.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:17 PM

That was a marshal (or was it the driver???) getting run over...if I recall correctly, he was going to the assistance of a F1 driver  (can't remember who now), and then he got hit by the ambulance...
..or maybe I'm just thinking of Nakijima hitting the marshal....

All back in the late 70s or early 80's

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:25 PM

View PostHandyNZL, on 04 February 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:

That was a marshal (or was it the driver???) getting run over...if I recall correctly, he was going to the assistance of a F1 driver  (can't remember who now), and then he got hit by the ambulance...
..or maybe I'm just thinking of Nakijima hitting the marshal....

All back in the late 70s or early 80's
wow, what a story
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:25 PM

Its was the driver, but those side pods could be the next big thing and what makes it even better is that its very hard to copy because they would need a new chassis. Nice job Sauber!
I remember that article in F1 racing with Lotus and that they wouldn't bring out a new item on their car that was impossible to copy.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:57 PM

View PostHandyNZL, on 04 February 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:

That was a marshal (or was it the driver???) getting run over...if I recall correctly, he was going to the assistance of a F1 driver  (can't remember who now), and then he got hit by the ambulance...
..or maybe I'm just thinking of Nakijima hitting the marshal....

All back in the late 70s or early 80's
The av pic looks vey small in my computer but I think that one is from mid 90s when Taki Inoue got ran over by the ambulance. One of F1 funniest moments, even if Taki got a fractured bone from it. So silly. Well...Taki wasn't exactly the sharpest toothpick in the pack. He was slow even for crashing.

EDIT: Found the video. IT's definitely him.


Edited by Quiet One, 04 February 2013 - 11:58 PM.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:52 AM

Aha chur....see I knew like 80% of it...haha...

...damn...too many things rattling around in my brain, and wires get crossed n' tangled....note to self...stop reading "word for the day"...clearly having to learn a new word every day is bad for my memory...

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:16 AM

Taki Innoue.

Thought I'd put that pic up so that it could set a sensible and serious tone to what I contribute in the forum
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:34 AM

Sensible and serious????? You're so in the wrong forum :P :P

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