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[Taku]

see here: http://www.pitpass.c...es_art_id=23418

it seems honda are missing jacques technical input, and it was jv who contributed most to the 2004 improvement.

interesting, very interesting indeed.  bar didn't seem to make huge strides or much progress at all in teh second half of the season.  could this be an explanation?  maybe too simple an explanation?

senna has God-like status at honda.  they give respect when respect is due.

[nojvnof1]

oops, didn't know this was already posted, I made a new thread in the discussions section.   Guess excitement got the better of me. Now Honda are saying what us fans have been saying for over a year, feels great to be proven right!!

As for Senna, they revered him, and rightly so, that man was a genious re. f1 techs and feedback, he had a gift for everything F1.

[Shadow]

yeah, it was a pleasant surprise especially sweeter coming from Honda

[Taku]

i'm such a tool, i thought i posted this in the discussions.     

admin feel free to delete!

[Chris Strange]

We'll see if JV has such a strong input, Sauber is the dream team to prove it. As for Honda missing him, I think it's just ridiculous....

[nojvnof1]

how so? If Honda said it themselves ....

[Sato]

Don't worry about him, he thinks Pizza boy is a good driver.

[Chris Strange]

Sato you're a pathetic w#nker, you should learn to respect other opinion, I'm sure Sir Frank Williams is more qualified than you to decide whether a driver is good or not. As For your favourite driver he is just here because he is Japanese and backed by Honda, otherwise he'll be crashing around other circuits.

[Sato]

Atleast Sato is in the 2005 WDC, and Pizza boy is left out in the cold again, after being shown up yet again.

*Edit - I should also tell you Webber is my favourite driver in F1 currently (only just ahead of Sato by the slightest bit)

Now lets not forget how Webber destroyed him at Jaguar, and then showed him up while he was in a williams, after being a loud mouth, acting like he was better then Webber.

[Senna]

Let’s just remind ourselves what Sato has done to deserve his seat








What a talent!
Pizza Boy is a lot better than Sato!

[Sato]

now now thats from his first 2 races. Button actually holds a earlier crash in F1 the Sato. Crashing a whole 2 sessions earlier then him. (ONCE AGAIN IM NOT A JB HATER, I DON'T MIND HIM AT ALL IM JUST TRYING TO PROVE A POINT)

As for AP, he got shown up by Webber, who was in a much worse car, after his big mouth. Sato has scored over 40 points in f1 over two seasons, not to shabby if you ask me. AP you ask? i don't believe he is into double digits yet. How many podiums? Sato 1, AP 0.

Well i think for once some stats are going taku's way.

I'll await your "he is so dangerous and he crashes and he underporfams" post.

[Sato]

Oh and while we are on this topic, do u know where i can get a video of his crash in aus 2002? the one in the pics, i've been looking around for it lately, to add to my Taku folder of clips.

# Edit

how about Buttons car after saturday session 1



Not to mention Pizzonia.

[Senna]

Sato, on Feb 9 2005, 02:25 PM, said:

now now thats from his first 2 races. Button actually holds a earlier crash in F1 the Sato. Crashing a whole 2 sessions earlier then him. (ONCE AGAIN IM NOT A JB HATER, I DON'T MIND HIM AT ALL IM JUST TRYING TO PROVE A POINT)

As for AP, he got shown up by Webber, who was in a much worse car, after his big mouth. Sato has scored over 40 points in f1 over two seasons, not to shabby if you ask me. AP you ask? i don't believe he is into double digits yet. How many podiums? Sato 1, AP 0.

Well i think for once some stats are going taku's way.

I'll await your "he is so dangerous and he crashes and he underporfams" post.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Webber often had a better car than A.P. as he got upgrades that his team-mate did not get until the following races.  Anyway, the point I was making was not that A.P. is better than M.W. but that A.P. is better than Sato, which is obvious.

In Takuma Sato’s entire career, over two complete seasons of F1, he has scored a pathetic total of 39 points (2 - 2002, 3 - 2003 and 34 – 2004).  To put that in perspective, Jenson Button scored 85 points in 2004 alone, driving the same car as Sato!  I haven’t even yet mentioned that Takuma does have a habit of destroying his cars!

[Sato]

i thought it was about AP being better then Sato, not jenson being better then sato....

[Senna]

Sato, on Feb 9 2005, 03:52 PM, said:

i thought it was about AP being better then Sato, not jenson being better then sato....

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I’m glad you agree that both Jenson and A.P. are better than Sato!

[Sato]

Where did i say that? I said thats what it was supose to be about, i never validated it.

[Max Mosley]

Taku, on Feb 3 2005, 04:33 AM, said:

see here: http://www.pitpass.c...es_art_id=23418

it seems honda are missing jacques technical input, and it was jv who contributed most to the 2004 improvement.

interesting, very interesting indeed.  bar didn't seem to make huge strides or much progress at all in teh second half of the season.  could this be an explanation?  maybe too simple an explanation?

senna has God-like status at honda.  they give respect when respect is due.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

This is indeed a very interesting story.  It should be remembered that Bar/Honda didn't seem to improve as quickly for the rest of JV's time there and perhaps the improvements last year came equally from JB etc's chassis developments or DR and GW etc but as you say respect where its due.  Button is no doubt still learning how to develop the team/car.  I also read this as indirect criticism of Sato - it seems even Honda wish they'd kept JV.