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[funkejay]

ykickamoocow, on Jan 8 2006, 12:29 AM, said:

I just hope that the new RB2 will be fast and competitive. I imagine that when Adrian Newey joins Red Bull next week he'll beable to make it afew tenths faster before Bahrain.

a few tenths by Bahrain might be asking a bit much, seeing as the car is largely completed, but we'll see what he can do.....

[ykickamoocow]

funkejay, on Jan 8 2006, 05:34 PM, said:

a few tenths by Bahrain might be asking a bit much, seeing as the car is largely completed, but we'll see what he can do.....

Adrian Newey has managed to get afew tenths out of cars in the past. Remember the McLaren MP4-19, it was a useless car which Newey didnt design but by mid season it was several tenths quicker and could compete (just) for race wins.

[narain fan]

funkejay, on Jan 8 2006, 09:57 AM, said:

C'mon guys, you can see it in the pictures - you didn't notice it???
check out how deep (front to back) the leading arm of the front wishbone is.....

i would have thought the no keel would have been better,considering the v8's
maybe by the time they reach baharain ,all that may change

[Hoodo]

Newey may look at their cars individually??

As DC and Newey know each other well,so they might look for the drivers strengths and play them up,although this would be quite expensive and time consuming.He shoulda come sooner

[funkejay]

ykickamoocow, on Jan 8 2006, 12:56 AM, said:

Adrian Newey has managed to get afew tenths out of cars in the past. Remember the McLaren MP4-19, it was a useless car which Newey didnt design but by mid season it was several tenths quicker and could compete (just) for race wins.

I'll agree that if anyone can, it's Newey.....

narain fan, on Jan 8 2006, 01:15 AM, said:

i would have thought the no keel would have been better,considering the v8's
maybe by the time they reach baharain ,all that may change

Yeah, McLaren have definitely gone the "no keel" route, and it worked gangbusters for them - so don't be surprised if the '07 RB chassis is one of the same. But it's too late to change that for this year - that kind of major revision to the front suspension would have knock-on effects for the entire chassis, so going from a 'V keel' to a 'no keel' could potentially involve changing the design of the entire car, which they don't have the time or resources for.

No, I expect that Newey will do what Willis did in his first year at BAR - improve their engineering practices (to bring the quality, design, fit, and craftsmanship up to Newey's standards) and concentrate on aero improvements throughout the year - while tackling next years design as a clean slate project (which is what he really joined RBR to do).

[narain fan]

funkejay, on Jan 8 2006, 08:24 PM, said:

Yeah, McLaren have definitely gone the "no keel" route, and it worked gangbusters for them - so don't be surprised if the '07 RB chassis is one of the same. But it's too late to change that for this year - that kind of major revision to the front suspension would have knock-on effects for the entire chassis, so going from a 'V keel' to a 'no keel' could potentially involve changing the design of the entire car, which they don't have the time or resources for.

No, I expect that Newey will do what Willis did in his first year at BAR - improve their engineering practices (to bring the quality, design, fit, and craftsmanship up to Newey's standards) and concentrate on aero improvements throughout the year - while tackling next years design as a clean slate project (which is what he really joined RBR to do).

maybe the SO CALLED "rb2" IS  just an interim chassis,and the actual 06 challenger may well be unvieled  on the 6th of march at baharain,jst a possibility,or maybe you are right
or they could do what toyota did this season i.e. to introduce a "b-spec car" towards the end of the season
jst as a forerunner,and a good augury for the 07 season

[funkejay]

narain fan, on Jan 8 2006, 10:30 AM, said:

maybe the SO CALLED "rb2" IS  just an interim chassis,and the actual 06 challenger may well be unvieled  on the 6th of march at baharain,jst a possibility,or maybe you are right
or they could do what toyota did this season i.e. to introduce a "b-spec car" towards the end of the season
jst as a forerunner,and a good augury for the 07 season

Yeah, I'd agree that the RB2 is an interim car, and there will be improvements and developments before Bahrain, but not such a radical change as that..... Of all the scenarios you mention, if they are to introduce a 'no keel' design, I expect that it would come towards the end of the season (a la Toyota), as a test bed for the '07 design.

[narain fan]

funkejay, on Jan 8 2006, 08:24 PM, said:

I'll agree that if anyone can, it's Newey.....

No, I expect that Newey will do what Willis did in his first year at BAR - improve their engineering practices (to bring the quality, design, fit, and craftsmanship up to Newey's standards) and concentrate on aero improvements throughout the year - while tackling next years design as a clean slate project (which is what he really joined RBR to do).

Newey to focus on RB3 - Horner        

Monday, 09 January 2006  
Red Bull Racing has targeted fifth in the 2006 constructors' championship, and competing with teams Honda, Williams and Toyota. As team principal Christian Horner outlined his goals for the new season to f1total.com, he also confirmed that technical wizard Adrian Newey will indeed arrive from McLaren to start work on Monday morning. ''Adrian has not been able to influence the RB2,'' Horner said, ''but he will surely play a role in the development of the car in the second part of 2006.'' The Milton Keynes team's boss also confirmed that Newey - chief technical officer - would focus on designing the 2007 racer. But Horner insisted: ''I'm sure that we will notice his influence in the second half of this year.''  
F1i.com

[narain fan]

new aero,new "cooling"
same V-keel ,though

Edited by narain fan, 15 February 2006 - 08:00 AM.

[coulthardfan]

todays the day red bull and toro rosso unveil their new cars......it said on the website it would be later tonight but im not sure if its going to be in line with the time in bahrain......anyone know the time diffrence?

[Maurice]

This evening the official team presentation took place with the presentation of the new liverys of the new STR team and the second car of RBR the RB2:

[pumpdoc]

I like the 'toro rosso'  ole!

[AutoRacer5]

pumpdoc, on Mar 9 2006, 04:39 PM, said:

I like the 'toro rosso'  ole!

bigger pic:

[coulthardfan]

is there any markings on the RB2 to show ferarri as engine supplier,i remember the RB1 didnt have the cosworth name on it either but the toro rosso`s do

btw great photos maurice and autoracer5 the toro rosso didnt dissapoint  

hopefully the toro rosso team wear is just as good looking

Edited by coulthardfan, 10 March 2006 - 07:56 AM.

[ecapdeville]

Awful livery!  

[coulthardfan]

awww cmon im sure you will get used to it when seeing the renaults chasing it  

Edited by coulthardfan, 10 March 2006 - 07:51 PM.

[MannTecV10]

That STR looks the nuts! Nothings looked that mean since the Viper/Hornet Jordans of the mid to late 1990's.

  I love the tusks off of the sidepods!

  Only problem is, with those Red Bull 'BULLS', that car looks like a Lamborghini! Hang on..........Didn't I hear they were trying to sell the team to VW.......

[YHR]

I like it.  More of an art form then a travelling bill board.

[pumpdoc]

YHR, on Mar 10 2006, 04:09 PM, said:

I like it.  More of an art form then a travelling bill board.

Indeed it is.........................

[nojvnof1]

The STR livery is great, very different, especially for F1. The Bull looks mega!

RBR livery looks quite similar.

[Senna]

ecapdeville, on Mar 10 2006, 03:09 PM, said:

Awful livery!  

Indeed.  Very ‘Pimp My Ride’, if you ask me…

No doubt that appeals to many on the forum though.

[cavallino]

Indeed, there are many who think the Mclaren livery is the best ever

[narain fan]

cavallino, on Mar 17 2006, 06:29 PM, said:

Indeed, there are many who think the Mclaren livery is the best ever

  

[Senna]

cavallino, on Mar 17 2006, 12:59 PM, said:

Indeed, there are many who think the Mclaren livery is the best ever

Cf. Martin Brundle.  He said it was a strong contender at least.

Lies!  All Lies, I tell you.  Nothing compares to the FW19.



Ahh...

[narain fan]

Go Jacques

[Senna]

Pray tell, what’s funny?