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Here Is The New Williams F1 - Fw28
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 02:32 PM
looks good
and fast.....
BTW mods shift it to 2006 launches
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 02:34 PM
loving the livery. No offence of course, but FW looks like timmy from south park in that pick.
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 02:36 PM
narain fan, on Jan 27 2006, 02:32 PM, said:
looks good
and fast.....
BTW mods shift it to 2006 launches
My bad! Sorry ppl.
www.williamsf1.com now open, looks good too...
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Jenson_Rules!!!, on Jan 27 2006, 08:04 PM, said:
. No offence of course, but FW looks like timmy from south park in that pick.
how can you possibly come with such comments
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Most people involved in the intimacies of Formula One place great value in the principle of stability in the technical regulations - from the rule makers themselves to their intellectual adversaries, the design engineers. Routine changes to the rules that govern the sport cost money and, from an engineer’s perspective, changes normally imply more restriction and less freedom to innovate, to exploit new materials or to pursue a promising development break. Generally, then, rule changes are the stuff of nightmares to most ambitious Formula One designers.
However, at a more forensic level of analysis, change to the technical regulations could actually be considered the engineer’s friend. With convergence of technological infrastructure between competing Formula One teams and the reduction in latitude for genuine innovation imposed by tighter regulations, the engineering initiative is now largely process-driven. Teams are all working at the very margins of improvement, albeit tenths of a percent in downforce gain or nominal improvements in mass transfer or CofG. Shifting the battle to one that is process-driven means that the team that gets its small increments of improvement to its race car the quickest, and in the most reliable way, will win.
So the 2006 regulations, which have defined the development of the FW28, represent in many ways one of the occasional opportunities that come knocking on an engineering department’s door, presenting a step change in a number of key design areas, which in turn promises a rich, rewarding and unpredictable season in prospect.
Clearly the biggest transition is the shift away from 3.0l v10 motive power in favour of 2.4l v8, and in Williams’ case, the new partnership with Cosworth. With the associated power losses all teams will encounter, everyone is facing a demand for higher aerodynamic efficiency to help compensate. In the case of the FW28, this became a fundamental design parameter for the car and is reflected in many ways across the aerodynamic strategy of the car, visible particularly in the design of the rear wing with its decambered tips. The target here was to maintain downforce while shedding drag at the wing tips. Additionally, a tall sidepod concept was adopted which allowed an even larger undercut and therefore smooth and efficient air flow to the rear of the car.
While designers have been forced to grapple with recouping power losses through aerodynamic efficiencies, the FIA dealt another blow to designers by imposing a new restriction on bodywork to the front of the car, removing the bottom parts of any forward barge boards and, in the process, dramatically altering flow dynamics around the front of the car. The response in the Williams design office has been to pursue a zero keel option to the management of the front wishbones. This area of design has been one of fundamental contention and revision across the Formula One paddock, but the zero keel solution now clearly provides the most efficient aerodynamic solution. In addition, the team has progressed the cascaded front wing, trialled successfully in the last two Grands Prix of 2005.
The revised three part qualifying format, essentially with the first two elements on low fuel and the final session based on race fuel, has had major implications for the approach to 2006 race strategy and in turn, with the design and all-important capacity of the fuel cell. Equally, the regulators decision – after a season of outlawing the practice – to re-enshrine tyre changes has a clear line of influence over the design of the elements of the car that respond to the changing parameters of tyre wear, fundamentally in relation to the mechanical set-up of suspension elements and weight distribution.
If the external factors were not sufficient to keep the design office at Williams busy with the incarnation of the FW28, the technically motivated switch to Bridgestone tyres (which the team last raced in 2000) has demanded a complete revision of weight distribution across the car and a re-formatting of suspension geometry in order to harmonise the dynamic characteristics of the FW28 with the qualities of the Bridgestone tyre. Technical Director, Sam Michael, commented, “The FW28 has been a large departure from previous Williams’ designs due in part to new aerodynamic efficiency targets, but also the mechanical challenges of changing to Bridgestone tyres and Cosworth’s v8 engine. It has been a really interesting car to design and I believe that will continue to be the case during its development in 2006.”
The shift to Cosworth has been another fundamental element in the genesis of the FW28. The development of the CA V8 has been characterised by an open and culturally convergent philosophy between the two organisations, which has been nothing short of positive and productive. As Alex Hitzinger, the architect of the CA V8 reflected, “We both have something to prove this year and this is when we will be at our best.”
Alongside the new V8 powerplant in the drivetrain design strategy has been the progression of Williams seamless shift technology which is anticipated to come on stream in the early part of the 2006 season. This seven-speed continuous torque gearbox owes much of its development progression to the joint validation work conducted on Cosworth’s dynos in Northampton, indicative of the depth and strength of the technical partnership. Seamless transmission can be worth up to 0.4 seconds over the course of an average racing lap.
The team has progressed the development of the FW28, together with the input from its technical partners, with an added degree of relish over the winter. Although not openly admitted, the extra challenge presented by the rule changes has galvanised the engineers into a mood of positive engagement. This is, in fact, where Williams should be at its best. For Sam Michael the objective is clear, “The FW28 has a lot resting on its shoulders as it must re-establish Williams at the sharp end. There are many good teams in Formula One now and how to beat them is simple – design a faster car.”
Fundamental rule changes and new technical partnerships with Bridgestone & Cosworth all equate to a heady c#cktail for the Williams design team to tackle. However, the FW28 is a first design for Sam Michael’s new combination of Chief Aerodynamicist, Loic Bigois and Chief Designer, Jörg Zander. For the first time too, the design team has had the benefit of two onsite wind tunnels dedicated to the new car from the outset and while nothing is meaningful until one Sunday in early March, certainly the circumstances of the FW28’s genesis could not be better for Williams, nor indeed could the response from its creators.
THINGS YOU DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT THE FW28
The FW28 is the first car to fully benefit from the recently improved WilliamsF1 aerodynamic facilities, including two full time, on site wind tunnels. The car uses a zero keel chassis concept, developed to improve the aerodynamic efficiency of the car. The change in FIA aerodynamic regulations at the front of the car was a significant input to the development of the FW28 chassis.
With a reduction in power (as the engine has dropped from a 3.0l v10 to a 2.4l v8), a higher aerodynamic efficiency is required. This is the main reason for the FW28 rear wing design and the disappearance of less efficient components such as rear light wings and secondary roll hoop wings.
Cars are rebuilt between every Grand Prix. This involves full strip down and servicing of the fuel system, hydraulics, steering, gearbox and electrical systems. In addition to this, all the composite and metallic parts are inspected and crack checked for damage.
It takes two days to build an FW28 from a bare chassis to a fully rolling car.
williamsf1
However, at a more forensic level of analysis, change to the technical regulations could actually be considered the engineer’s friend. With convergence of technological infrastructure between competing Formula One teams and the reduction in latitude for genuine innovation imposed by tighter regulations, the engineering initiative is now largely process-driven. Teams are all working at the very margins of improvement, albeit tenths of a percent in downforce gain or nominal improvements in mass transfer or CofG. Shifting the battle to one that is process-driven means that the team that gets its small increments of improvement to its race car the quickest, and in the most reliable way, will win.
So the 2006 regulations, which have defined the development of the FW28, represent in many ways one of the occasional opportunities that come knocking on an engineering department’s door, presenting a step change in a number of key design areas, which in turn promises a rich, rewarding and unpredictable season in prospect.
Clearly the biggest transition is the shift away from 3.0l v10 motive power in favour of 2.4l v8, and in Williams’ case, the new partnership with Cosworth. With the associated power losses all teams will encounter, everyone is facing a demand for higher aerodynamic efficiency to help compensate. In the case of the FW28, this became a fundamental design parameter for the car and is reflected in many ways across the aerodynamic strategy of the car, visible particularly in the design of the rear wing with its decambered tips. The target here was to maintain downforce while shedding drag at the wing tips. Additionally, a tall sidepod concept was adopted which allowed an even larger undercut and therefore smooth and efficient air flow to the rear of the car.
While designers have been forced to grapple with recouping power losses through aerodynamic efficiencies, the FIA dealt another blow to designers by imposing a new restriction on bodywork to the front of the car, removing the bottom parts of any forward barge boards and, in the process, dramatically altering flow dynamics around the front of the car. The response in the Williams design office has been to pursue a zero keel option to the management of the front wishbones. This area of design has been one of fundamental contention and revision across the Formula One paddock, but the zero keel solution now clearly provides the most efficient aerodynamic solution. In addition, the team has progressed the cascaded front wing, trialled successfully in the last two Grands Prix of 2005.
The revised three part qualifying format, essentially with the first two elements on low fuel and the final session based on race fuel, has had major implications for the approach to 2006 race strategy and in turn, with the design and all-important capacity of the fuel cell. Equally, the regulators decision – after a season of outlawing the practice – to re-enshrine tyre changes has a clear line of influence over the design of the elements of the car that respond to the changing parameters of tyre wear, fundamentally in relation to the mechanical set-up of suspension elements and weight distribution.
If the external factors were not sufficient to keep the design office at Williams busy with the incarnation of the FW28, the technically motivated switch to Bridgestone tyres (which the team last raced in 2000) has demanded a complete revision of weight distribution across the car and a re-formatting of suspension geometry in order to harmonise the dynamic characteristics of the FW28 with the qualities of the Bridgestone tyre. Technical Director, Sam Michael, commented, “The FW28 has been a large departure from previous Williams’ designs due in part to new aerodynamic efficiency targets, but also the mechanical challenges of changing to Bridgestone tyres and Cosworth’s v8 engine. It has been a really interesting car to design and I believe that will continue to be the case during its development in 2006.”
The shift to Cosworth has been another fundamental element in the genesis of the FW28. The development of the CA V8 has been characterised by an open and culturally convergent philosophy between the two organisations, which has been nothing short of positive and productive. As Alex Hitzinger, the architect of the CA V8 reflected, “We both have something to prove this year and this is when we will be at our best.”
Alongside the new V8 powerplant in the drivetrain design strategy has been the progression of Williams seamless shift technology which is anticipated to come on stream in the early part of the 2006 season. This seven-speed continuous torque gearbox owes much of its development progression to the joint validation work conducted on Cosworth’s dynos in Northampton, indicative of the depth and strength of the technical partnership. Seamless transmission can be worth up to 0.4 seconds over the course of an average racing lap.
The team has progressed the development of the FW28, together with the input from its technical partners, with an added degree of relish over the winter. Although not openly admitted, the extra challenge presented by the rule changes has galvanised the engineers into a mood of positive engagement. This is, in fact, where Williams should be at its best. For Sam Michael the objective is clear, “The FW28 has a lot resting on its shoulders as it must re-establish Williams at the sharp end. There are many good teams in Formula One now and how to beat them is simple – design a faster car.”
Fundamental rule changes and new technical partnerships with Bridgestone & Cosworth all equate to a heady c#cktail for the Williams design team to tackle. However, the FW28 is a first design for Sam Michael’s new combination of Chief Aerodynamicist, Loic Bigois and Chief Designer, Jörg Zander. For the first time too, the design team has had the benefit of two onsite wind tunnels dedicated to the new car from the outset and while nothing is meaningful until one Sunday in early March, certainly the circumstances of the FW28’s genesis could not be better for Williams, nor indeed could the response from its creators.
THINGS YOU DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT THE FW28
The FW28 is the first car to fully benefit from the recently improved WilliamsF1 aerodynamic facilities, including two full time, on site wind tunnels. The car uses a zero keel chassis concept, developed to improve the aerodynamic efficiency of the car. The change in FIA aerodynamic regulations at the front of the car was a significant input to the development of the FW28 chassis.
With a reduction in power (as the engine has dropped from a 3.0l v10 to a 2.4l v8), a higher aerodynamic efficiency is required. This is the main reason for the FW28 rear wing design and the disappearance of less efficient components such as rear light wings and secondary roll hoop wings.
Cars are rebuilt between every Grand Prix. This involves full strip down and servicing of the fuel system, hydraulics, steering, gearbox and electrical systems. In addition to this, all the composite and metallic parts are inspected and crack checked for damage.
It takes two days to build an FW28 from a bare chassis to a fully rolling car.
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Edited by narain fan, 27 January 2006 - 02:46 PM.
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 02:53 PM
Jenson_Rules!!!, on Jan 27 2006, 08:34 AM, said:
loving the livery. No offence of course, but FW looks like timmy from south park in that pick.
Timmyyyyyy!
Hey... look the TATA logo...Mock is right, Williams is paying NK the ride....hehe naive people.
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 02:58 PM
narain fan, on Jan 27 2006, 02:45 PM, said:
how can you possibly come with such comments
With some precious backing everything counts... reminds me of politics...
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 03:02 PM
ecapdeville, on Jan 27 2006, 08:23 PM, said:
Timmyyyyyy!
Hey... look the TATA logo...
Hey... look the TATA logo...
The WilliamsF1 Team today announced a major new sponsorship association with Tata, one of India’s most successful multi-disciplinary
commercial conglomerates. The partnership will see the Tata brand displayed on the FW28’s nose, the drivers’ helmets and overalls, as well as on various locations across the team environment.
An industrial giant, the Tata Group comprises a network of 92 operating companies in seven business sectors, including information systems and communications, engineering, materials, services, energy, consumer products and chemicals, and is one of the driving forces behind the re-emergence of the Asian Tiger phenomenon
The alliance with the WilliamsF1 Team will provide a unique platform for Tata to communicate its blanket of competencies to a global audience. In particular, Tata will use the partnership to illustrate its technical proficiencies through a range of initiatives, including software development and CAD design. The union of Williams, a niche British engineering company and the industrial muscle of Tata, promises to deliver a formidable range of benefits to both parties.
Following the announcement, Mr. Romit Chaterji, the Tata Group’s Sr. Vice President, Corporate Affairs, commented, “We are delighted to be partnering a world-class team like WilliamsF1. Their successful track record over the years in Formula One and their passion for the sport is what sets them apart. In addition, we are happy to support Narain’s F1
racing career for another year.
Moreover, this association extends beyond mere sponsorship with WilliamsF1 as they will be exploring opportunities to source high technology products and services from the Tata Group.”
Frank Williams, Team Principal of the WilliamsF1 Team, confirmed, “To welcome a company of Tata’s calibre to the Williams sponsor community is enormously satisfying. Formula One will not only deliver sound business to business opportunities to the Group, but the team will also benefit from their considerable expertise in various technical fields.”
http://www.totalf1.c...t=0
some people are naive ,indeed...
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 03:16 PM
narain fan, on Jan 27 2006, 09:02 AM, said:
In particular, Tata will use the partnership to illustrate its technical proficiencies through a range of initiatives, including software development and CAD design. The union of Williams, a niche British engineering company and the industrial muscle of Tata, promises to deliver a formidable range of benefits to both parties.
Moreover, this association extends beyond mere sponsorship with WilliamsF1 as they will be exploring opportunities to source high technology products and services from the Tata Group.”
Moreover, this association extends beyond mere sponsorship with WilliamsF1 as they will be exploring opportunities to source high technology products and services from the Tata Group.”
Yeah, Shure...
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 03:18 PM
ecapdeville, on Jan 27 2006, 08:46 PM, said:
Yeah, Shure...
atleast both entities will exist way beyond 07
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I'm not convinced of the FW/Timmy correlation.
Definitely Patrick Head next to him, though.
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Redline, on Jan 27 2006, 08:51 PM, said:
I'm not convinced of the FW/Timmy correlation.
Definitely Patrick Head next to him, though.
this is a thread to discuss the fw28 ,not to ridicule FW
you both edit ur posts ,or i am reporting you....
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 03:37 PM
Jees.....li-i-i-i-ighten u-u-u-u-u-p. 
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WTF JR and redline
this is a thread to discuss the fw28 ,not to ridicule FW
you both edit ur posts ,or i am reporting you....
this is a thread to discuss the fw28 ,not to ridicule FW
you both edit ur posts ,or i am reporting you....
Take a chill pill, it's all in fun and F1
(at least they aren't bagging on Narain-yet
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 03:40 PM
ecapdeville, on Jan 27 2006, 03:16 PM, said:
Yeah, Shure...
"I am sure most of you all know that Tata and Ferrari work together on communication set up and other technical resources required to run an F1 car through their flagship company called TCS - Tata Consultancy Services.
Infact in India, Fiat - Parent company of Ferrari has a landmark deal signed a couple of days back wherein all the marketing and distribution for Fiat's presence will be done by Tata in India and Fiat will impart the technical know how on all future models."
This is not a text made by me, but here you can see that some technical partnership is very possible... I dont know why people tend to bash Williams... but hey! Look at the bright side you can choose Mclaren or Ferrari after 2007!
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 03:41 PM
pumpdoc, on Jan 27 2006, 09:07 PM, said:
Take a chill pill, it's all in fun and F1
(at least they aren't bagging on Narain-yet )
(at least they aren't bagging on Narain-yet
)it is not "fun" for everyone,infact it is deeply offensive,especially for those whose loved one's might be restricted to a wheelchair.....
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 03:53 PM
No i was merely saying that FW looked a lot like timmy in one of them pics. I wasnt taking the p**s, he really did!
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Jenson_Rules!!!, on Jan 27 2006, 03:53 PM, said:
No i was merely saying that FW looked a lot like timmy in one of them pics. I wasnt taking the p**s, he really did!
It´s like i saw a photo of you and say: "Hey, you look like a donkey, a pig and a cow all smashed up... but dont worry it´s just in that photo..."
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 04:01 PM
narain fan, on Jan 27 2006, 07:41 AM, said:
i see this in no way a lesser offensive post,than the one made by AR5,which you promptly deleted
it is not "fun" for everyone,infact it is deeply offensive,especially for those whose loved one's might be restricted to a wheelchair.....
it is not "fun" for everyone,infact it is deeply offensive,especially for those whose loved one's might be restricted to a wheelchair.....
My mother-n-law is in a wheelchair, and she laughs at timmy.............
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Jenson_Rules!!!, on Jan 27 2006, 03:53 PM, said:
No i was merely saying that FW looked a lot like timmy in one of them pics. I wasnt taking the p**s, he really did!
It´s like i saw a photo of you and say: "Hey, you look like a donkey, a pig and a cow all smashed up... but dont worry it´s just in that photo..."
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if i did indeed look like that in a pic then you are perfectly entitled to say that!
Anyway, as if im against disabled people, my nan is in a wheelchair, she dosnt know who i am and has a wasteing disease, so im not taking the p**s cos hes in a wheelchair, ****ing twat. Your worse than any of us narain fan by causing grief for all the mods a few months ago. oh and what ar5 said about the baby that was raped was disgusting and far worse than what i hav ever said on this forum so get off your high horse you stupid pathetic man. christ!
Anyway, as if im against disabled people, my nan is in a wheelchair, she dosnt know who i am and has a wasteing disease, so im not taking the p**s cos hes in a wheelchair, ****ing twat. Your worse than any of us narain fan by causing grief for all the mods a few months ago. oh and what ar5 said about the baby that was raped was disgusting and far worse than what i hav ever said on this forum so get off your high horse you stupid pathetic man. christ!
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Jenson_Rules!!!, on Jan 27 2006, 09:44 PM, said:
if i did indeed look like that in a pic then you are perfectly entitled to say that!
Anyway, as if im against disabled people, my nan is in a wheelchair, she dosnt know who i am and has a wasteing disease, so im not taking the p**s cos hes in a wheelchair, ****ing twat. Your worse than any of us narain fan by causing grief for all the mods a few months ago. oh and what ar5 said about the baby that was raped was disgusting and far worse than what i hav ever said on this forum so get off your high horse you stupid pathetic man. christ!
Anyway, as if im against disabled people, my nan is in a wheelchair, she dosnt know who i am and has a wasteing disease, so im not taking the p**s cos hes in a wheelchair, ****ing twat. Your worse than any of us narain fan by causing grief for all the mods a few months ago. oh and what ar5 said about the baby that was raped was disgusting and far worse than what i hav ever said on this forum so get off your high horse you stupid pathetic man. christ!
almost all your posts contain swear words
dont talk of the past
i am aware,that one of the threads in which you were "RACIST" has been "locked"
and no,i did not cause any grief to anyone.....
as usual it was a button fan-atic,who was the root cause of trouble,as he went on a "swear" spree
you will never know what he wrote coz it was deleted bfor you could have read it,,i protested as my posts were deleted,only later did i know that my post was deleted coz"it quoted" his posts
anyway it has got nothing to do with what you have posted now
and if any one who has caused grief to the pitcrew ,it is you
the number of "drunken" posts pumpdoc has edited is way more than any "action " taken against any other member....
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oh yeah, me being racist, when pretty much every1 said i wasnt bar a few people (Fed_up i think was really the only one). Is it illegal to say that i went to the cinema and i was literally the only british person in there? cannot i not say i was shocked because bournemouth has a very low amount of minorities hence i was surprised to see so many?
Oh and my posts in a drunken state may be a pain as pumpdoc likes to delete them but i dont say anything offensive towards anyone in particular. and who cares if i swear, im perfectly entitled to if i want to!
and what button fan caused a huge problem? i dont remember knowing anything of that, and why do you ****ing label me or any other button fan as a fanatic, im actually really down to earth but i have a short temper and i dont take crap off other people.
christ you really do know how to wind me up dont you.
Oh and my posts in a drunken state may be a pain as pumpdoc likes to delete them but i dont say anything offensive towards anyone in particular. and who cares if i swear, im perfectly entitled to if i want to!
and what button fan caused a huge problem? i dont remember knowing anything of that, and why do you ****ing label me or any other button fan as a fanatic, im actually really down to earth but i have a short temper and i dont take crap off other people.
christ you really do know how to wind me up dont you.
IT'S BRITNEY BITCH!!!
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 04:34 PM
Jenson_Rules!!!, on Jan 27 2006, 10:01 PM, said:
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christ you really do know how to wind me up dont you.
christ you really do know how to wind me up dont you.
it is u and redline who have posted some ridiculous things,and you say i wound u up
narain fan, on Dec 30 2006, 12:32 AM, said:
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and if you dont want to read my posts,no on is forcing you
and if you dont want to read my posts,no on is forcing you
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 04:38 PM
actually i posted somthing that was lighthearted, you seem to think though that what i said was disgusting etc, so in actual fact its your fault for not being able to take a light hearted comment as just that, lighthearted!
IT'S BRITNEY BITCH!!!
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 04:39 PM
narain fan, on Dec 30 2006, 12:32 AM, said:
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and if you dont want to read my posts,no on is forcing you
and if you dont want to read my posts,no on is forcing you
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 04:44 PM
Thanks guys for all the extremly intresting stuff you´ve writen about the FW28!!! 
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 05:31 PM
What´s the prob with that picture NF?
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 07:01 PM
Panchito, on Jan 27 2006, 11:01 PM, said:
What´s the prob with that picture NF?
narain fan, on Dec 30 2006, 12:32 AM, said:
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and if you dont want to read my posts,no on is forcing you
and if you dont want to read my posts,no on is forcing you
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