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Villeneuve Gets Off Lightly for Blocking Fisichella
Written by: Adam Cooper
Nurburg, Germany – 5/6/2006 An angry Fisichella walked down pitlane to confront Villeneuve over the incident. (LAT Photo)
Jacques Villeneuve has been docked just one place in the qualifying order after he was found guilty of impeding Giancarlo Fisichella in the second qualifying session.
Because it could not be proved that the offence was deliberate, Jacques had his three fastest times deleted from the top 10 session, which effectively dropped him from eighth to 10th and last in that group. Because Mark Webber has a 10-place penalty, he automatically gains one of the spots back, and will thus start ninth.
Fisichella was furious when Villeneuve, who was on an out lap, got in his way towards the end of the second session, and for the second race in a row, the Italian did not make it through to the top 10 run-off.
After the session he made his way down to the BMW Sauber pit and remonstrated with Jacques, who was still sitting in the car.
Renault had hoped to see Villeneuve get a much tougher penalty, or at least one that saw Fisi gain a position. The Italian qualified 13th, but will start 11th as Webber and Nico Rosberg both go back.
Takuma Sato escaped censure after an incident involving Christian Klien.
In my opinion, he didn't block him and this is unjust, fisi is just a drama queen
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Posted 06 May 2006 - 09:51 PM
fisi is Sh#t! He cant hack someone doing a better job than him. Anyway fisi shudnt have been in that position anyway since he has the fastest car!
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Posted 06 May 2006 - 10:01 PM
its racing, get over it, you want more then one car out, thats what you get, you dont want to be impeaded go back to one car at a time
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Posted 06 May 2006 - 11:20 PM
I find it very ironic that he called Villeneuve unprofessional when he goes off and storms into the BMW-Sauber garage and yells at JV for nooo reason! JV was not even close to him and he didn't block him, everytime a driver hits traffic now are we going to start giving them grid penalties?! Damn if so I can't wait till Monaco. Ridiculous. Fisi must be feeling a little too much heat at Renault after doing barely nothing 
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Posted 06 May 2006 - 11:53 PM
**** Fisi. I'm an admirer of Alonso and Renault but after this, I'd rather support Ferrari than this jerkoff. I'll believe JV over Fisi anyday of the week. Fisi's days are numbered at Renault and everyone knows it. Still that doesn't excuse him from performing poorly and finding blame in other people.
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 01:03 AM
Shocking behaviour from JV. The old man should know to check his mirrors by now.
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 01:11 AM
poor JV! Fisi is being out of order here, there are only so many times you can blame someone other than yourself and get away with it! Fisi is a completet tosser, now on my ''hate list'' though i dont need to do him a voodoo doll as he seems capable enough of ruining his own races!
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 02:32 AM
most incredible is the fact that Jarno Trulli complained of the same thing Fisichella is complaining last week but Michael Schumacher was not penalised, however this weeks the stewards of the race see fit to rob Villeneuve of a position.... goes to show how fair these fia people are
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 03:54 AM
Great 
so MS was automatically guilty and JV is automatically innocent. Besides the important thing is Trulli chose not to complain to the FIA. His fault, if he had, the stewards would at least have been forced to justifya decision either way.
Fisi complained and was proved right, good for him
For all the people including Antonia who are saying he did not block, how many have actually seen a video of it?
so MS was automatically guilty and JV is automatically innocent. Besides the important thing is Trulli chose not to complain to the FIA. His fault, if he had, the stewards would at least have been forced to justifya decision either way.Fisi complained and was proved right, good for him
For all the people including Antonia who are saying he did not block, how many have actually seen a video of it?
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 04:08 AM
I think Fisi is just being a Queen. Really, people have their fast laps stuffed all the time. Renault and Fisi should have time their runs better.
I have lost all respect for Fisi now and hope he gets sacked. He can't take the heat so it's JV's fault he is down there? No I think not. He has a much faster car and should have set a faster time, end of story!
Now I wonder how many times this is gonna happen when drivers get in the way of others.
I saw the video, Fisi was way behind. Then he got stuck behind in those impossible to pass places. Whats JV supposed to do? pull over on the grass and let Fisi past?
I have lost all respect for Fisi now and hope he gets sacked. He can't take the heat so it's JV's fault he is down there? No I think not. He has a much faster car and should have set a faster time, end of story!
Now I wonder how many times this is gonna happen when drivers get in the way of others.
I saw the video, Fisi was way behind. Then he got stuck behind in those impossible to pass places. Whats JV supposed to do? pull over on the grass and let Fisi past?
Edited by blueboots, 07 May 2006 - 04:08 AM.
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 04:17 AM
blueboots, on May 6 2006, 10:08 PM, said:
I think Fisi is just being a Queen. Really, people have their fast laps stuffed all the time. Renault and Fisi should have time their runs better.
I have lost all respect for Fisi now and hope he gets sacked. He can't take the heat so it's JV's fault he is down there? No I think not. He has a much faster car and should have set a faster time, end of story!
Now I wonder how many times this is gonna happen when drivers get in the way of others.
I saw the video, Fisi was way behind. Then he got stuck behind in those impossible to pass places. Whats JV supposed to do? pull over on the grass and let Fisi past?
I have lost all respect for Fisi now and hope he gets sacked. He can't take the heat so it's JV's fault he is down there? No I think not. He has a much faster car and should have set a faster time, end of story!
Now I wonder how many times this is gonna happen when drivers get in the way of others.
I saw the video, Fisi was way behind. Then he got stuck behind in those impossible to pass places. Whats JV supposed to do? pull over on the grass and let Fisi past?
I agree I saw it too and I was thinking where the hell was JV suposed to go. He did not move into Fisi's line or anything like that from what I saw. HEY FIsi it's racing if you are faster than someone else pass them otherwise shut up and quit whining you are supposed to be a formula one driver!! I lost alot of respect for Fisi today too he may be slower than Alonso on the track but he shure is quick getting to the stewards!
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 04:44 AM
The queen of yesteryear needs to shut up and get on with business. I doubt JV deliberately sabotaged GF's lap, and I find the penalty outrageous. Christ, storming off to the stewarts like those faggots whom told on everyone to the headmaster at school. GF needs a good asswhipping.
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 04:55 AM
It was fine for MS to block Trulli for a whole lap in Imola....
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 05:03 AM
Sato, on May 7 2006, 02:55 PM, said:
It was fine for MS to block Trulli for a whole lap in Imola....
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 05:09 AM
So you have to have a big fat whinge to the stewards for anything to happen? Thats pretty silly.
I'd go in there after every session and have a whinge about everything and anything.
I'd go in there after every session and have a whinge about everything and anything.
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 05:18 AM
Well odly enough the stewards agreed with him 
Better to complain trough legitimate channels than whinge to the press accusing the stewarsds of being unfair like Trulli did.
Better to complain trough legitimate channels than whinge to the press accusing the stewarsds of being unfair like Trulli did.
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 05:21 AM
ben_3001, on May 7 2006, 04:50 AM, said:
I find it very ironic that he called Villeneuve unprofessional when he goes off and storms into the BMW-Sauber garage and yells at JV for nooo reason! JV was not even close to him and he didn't block him, everytime a driver hits traffic now are we going to start giving them grid penalties?! Damn if so I can't wait till Monaco. Ridiculous. Fisi must be feeling a little too much heat at Renault after doing barely nothing
so can't I.......
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 05:28 AM
Shadow, on May 7 2006, 03:21 PM, said:
so can't I.......
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Definitely......
In 1958 Fangio decided to retire. His explanation for that was unique:
Fangio: "I came to test my car and after a few laps struggling with my `cache` I asked to my engineer: What did you change in the car?"
The engineer: "the shock absorbers. Why? They pay us to use..."
Fangio: "..so I realize that my time was come. I was the one that were in danger at the track, how could they change anything without asking me before? That was not the sport I like...besides that I'm too old...".
He was 47 and very quick yet...
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 06:36 AM
What a freaking joke. Does Fisi even know how to pass someone. Seems like unless you put two wheels on the grass the guy can't get around you. The guy is a hothead, and doesn't have the mental fitness to compete in this sport. Swearing on the radio, throwing a temper tantrum in front of JV's car. What a sorry excuse for a professional race driver. I can't wait for him to start getting mad because guys in front of him who are racing him for position won't move out of his way.
As someone else said, there is no way he should ever be in this position when you are driving the fastest car on the grid.
The stewards gave JV a light penalty. JV simply didn't think Fisi was pushing hard enough to make a pass. If he would have been on JV's tail then maybe JV would have pulled over.
As someone else said, there is no way he should ever be in this position when you are driving the fastest car on the grid.
The stewards gave JV a light penalty. JV simply didn't think Fisi was pushing hard enough to make a pass. If he would have been on JV's tail then maybe JV would have pulled over.
Edited by YHR, 07 May 2006 - 06:44 AM.
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 07:10 AM
We all know Fisi will be working in a pizzeria next year.
Expect some cold pizza at delivery,...He's so slow.
He lost it, I wonder if he ever had it anyway.
Expect some cold pizza at delivery,...He's so slow.
He lost it, I wonder if he ever had it anyway.
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 07:24 AM
rock, on May 7 2006, 05:10 PM, said:
We all know Fisi will be working in a pizzeria next year.
Expect some cold pizza at delivery,...He's so slow.
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 07:27 AM
I only saw a brief clip of Fisi ending his lap and JV was way way way out in front of Fisi. Instead of waving his arms, Fisi should have done what JV did and complete another lap and try to get in. Luckily he only dropped one spot, but I'm pretty worried as in P8 he's have been on the inside of the track, which is the place to be here as there is usually a first corner incident. Now he's on the outside.
If Fisi's temperament was ever in doubt, now we know he's feeling the pinch, he totally overreacted and the way he just barged into JV's pit was hilarious. Loved how Jacques just looked and nodded at him as if to say "yeah whatever".
Fisi's lucky JV only lost one spot, otherwise I'd go alot further.
Indeed. It should be quite interesting to say the least.
If Fisi's temperament was ever in doubt, now we know he's feeling the pinch, he totally overreacted and the way he just barged into JV's pit was hilarious. Loved how Jacques just looked and nodded at him as if to say "yeah whatever".
Fisi's lucky JV only lost one spot, otherwise I'd go alot further.
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Wonder what Briatore thinks of all this....
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Could prove interesting regards the futures of both drivers!
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ben_3001, on May 7 2006, 07:27 PM, said:
Wonder what Briatore thinks of all this....
Just maybe it's because Fisi KNOWS that JV has got his ride next year???
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 09:42 AM
This has opened one big can of worms.
Next race, Klien feels he's been blocked by SS, TS feels he's been blocked by CA, MS feels he's been blocked by GF, GF thinks he's been blocked by almost everyone, they all go and complain.
Well done stewards, having rules that say only deliberate blocking is not allowed, then docking someone for non deliberate blocking. Consistant stewarding? I think not.
Fisi "no one likes me" chella needs to realise a thing or two.
Next race, Klien feels he's been blocked by SS, TS feels he's been blocked by CA, MS feels he's been blocked by GF, GF thinks he's been blocked by almost everyone, they all go and complain.
Well done stewards, having rules that say only deliberate blocking is not allowed, then docking someone for non deliberate blocking. Consistant stewarding? I think not.
Fisi "no one likes me" chella needs to realise a thing or two.
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 10:03 AM
spitfire, on May 7 2006, 05:17 AM, said:
I agree I saw it too and I was thinking where the hell was JV suposed to go. He did not move into Fisi's line or anything like that from what I saw. HEY FIsi it's racing if you are faster than someone else pass them otherwise shut up and quit whining you are supposed to be a formula one driver!! I lost alot of respect for Fisi today too he may be slower than Alonso on the track but he shure is quick getting to the stewards!
Was it martin brundle who said oh JV is there, but that wont affect his time as he was being carried along in the slipstream!
Fisi is slow, wasnt it only 2 weeks ago he started outside the top 10 with the b spec engine, now on pole with alonso?
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Jenson_Rules!!!, on May 7 2006, 09:03 PM, said:
Was it martin brundle who said oh JV is there, but that wont affect his time as he was being carried along in the slipstream!
Fisi is slow, wasnt it only 2 weeks ago he started outside the top 10 with the b spec engine, now on pole with alonso?
Fisi is slow, wasnt it only 2 weeks ago he started outside the top 10 with the b spec engine, now on pole with alonso?
I'm tempted do lodge my disgust on the Renault Website, but I can't find an email to contact.
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Trulli did not report it to the stewards though...
Smart decision by Trulli.
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