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[Wez]

BradSpeedMan, on Dec 14 2006, 12:30 PM, said:

work related Wez??????
Whats your profession?

No not work related, He is a mate of my dads.
I work in the IT telecoms industry though.

[Wez]

tifosi too!, on Dec 14 2006, 12:23 PM, said:

Lets get it on then!!!I easily associate one name with Honda F1 racing...And that would be ...Senna  

Nope not a Brazilian.... The only glitch is that although the driver in questions contract ends at the end of 2007, his current team are not keen on letting him go, but apparently Honda can offer him a better deal than he has with them, or will have.

[ykickamoocow]

Wez, on Dec 13 2006, 10:45 PM, said:

Guys im going for lunch with Alistair Gibson in March the week after the Aussie GP by the looks of things.

Were you the one i asked to tell him that next time he should hit Button on  the head with something heavier than a lollypop stick.

[BradSpeedMan]

Wez, on Dec 14 2006, 01:02 PM, said:

No not work related, He is a mate of my dads.
I work in the IT telecoms industry though.

WOW Wez...   

Thats absolute magical mate...

Edited by BradSpeedMan, 14 December 2006 - 01:41 PM.

[BradSpeedMan]

Schumikonen, on Dec 14 2006, 12:30 PM, said:

Wow, that is a beautiful car, it looks better than my wife and she is really a good looking woman, I think this would be my favourite car in the next season, I don't want it to win but I like the way it looks.

really really beautiful, I'm glad I'm still a Mclaren fan as I'm supporting Hamilton...

[Wez]

BradSpeedMan, on Dec 14 2006, 03:39 PM, said:

WOW Wez...   

Thats absolute magical mate...

Yeah, I know... I have so much Honda merchandise its scary.
He's bringing me the sideplate off the back wing of Buttons Honda signed.. Looking forward to that.
A really interesting guy.

ps. watch out for the new Honda exhaust system he told me bout... It exits the car next to the driver. Apparently another team is also using it, and the extra performance it gives is unbelievable!

[cavallino]

Hmmm I am not sure how adding extra length to the exhaust pipe and moving the outlet further up in the car will help?

[ykickamoocow]

Wez, on Dec 15 2006, 01:24 AM, said:

ps. watch out for the new Honda exhaust system he told me bout... It exits the car next to the driver. Apparently another team is also using it, and the extra performance it gives is unbelievable!

Just out of curiosty how would he know what other teams are doing when none of the teams have had there 2007 spec cars in public yet?

[Autumnpuma]

cavallino, on Dec 14 2006, 09:00 AM, said:

Hmmm I am not sure how adding extra length to the exhaust pipe and moving the outlet further up in the car will help?

Indeed. Don't the higher revs demand shorter exhaust pipes? I'm sure the Honda engineers know what they are doing, but I'd like details about this!

[ykickamoocow]

Autumnpuma, on Dec 15 2006, 05:04 AM, said:

I'm sure the Honda engineers know what they are doing

Giving the performance of this years car i would argue that they dont.

[Shane2]

cavallino, on Dec 14 2006, 05:00 PM, said:

Hmmm I am not sure how adding extra length to the exhaust pipe and moving the outlet further up in the car will help?

My guess would be that it helps tidy the air flow out of the diffuser and over the rear of the car

[Autumnpuma]

Shane2, on Dec 14 2006, 11:25 AM, said:

My guess would be that it helps tidy the air flow out of the diffuser and over the rear of the car

Maybe. Ferrari have experimented, in the past few years, with putting their engine more forward so perhaps Honda is going that route as well. With the engine more forward, the exhaust can be the same length as before, but now exiting further up on the chassis. I would wonder how they are going to cool that engine, as I wouldn't think there'd be alot of room in there for air circulation....

[Shane2]

I wouldn't have thought the exit route of the gases would make much difference to their circulation, as that happens after they exit the engine bay, all it means is slightly re-structuring the car's circulatory system.

Only problem with moving the engine forwards is that it kinda ruins the weight bias, and more forwards bias could bog the cars down off the grid.

[Autumnpuma]

Sorry, I was unclear about the cooling issue. I meant the circulating air in the engine's compartment, not the engine itself. I'm only guessing Honda would have moved their engine forward. If anyone stumbles across any more info about his, post it please.

[aussief1]

It's got me beat what Honda are trying to do here. I'll settle with the theory that they are going to move the exhaust exits forward a little by simply changing the exhaust manifold a little this may help by leaving some room to have a more compact rear end.

[Wez]

Shane2, on Dec 14 2006, 09:25 PM, said:

My guess would be that it helps tidy the air flow out of the diffuser and over the rear of the car

Yes, that is exactly what it does!

[Autumnpuma]

Wez, on Dec 14 2006, 10:17 PM, said:

Yes, that is exactly what it does!

Thanks!

[c21]

If you want to see the result of exhausts further forward, check out the Sauber from last year as that is what they used.

This principle is not new.

[Shane2]

It will however be interesting to see what difference it makes to a fast car (no offence, but the saubers never moved out of the midfield in all honesty)

[c21]

Shane2, on Dec 15 2006, 06:42 PM, said:

It will however be interesting to see what difference it makes to a fast car (no offence, but the saubers never moved out of the midfield in all honesty)

True, but it does'nt take away the fact that we did it first

Many innovations come from the small teams first

[Autumnpuma]

c21, on Dec 15 2006, 12:09 PM, said:

True, but it does'nt take away the fact that we did it first

Many innovations come from the small teams first

I wouldn't exactly call this an innovation, interesting though it is...

[Shane2]

c21, on Dec 15 2006, 08:09 PM, said:

True, but it does'nt take away the fact that we did it first

Many innovations come from the small teams first

It improves performance as much as the poster of the thread claims, that doesn't say much for the rest of Sauber's chassis

[JayStorm]

I think the new McLaren looks fantastic, although I think the Vodafone sponsor would work well on most cars.

The new Renault is quite ok, it's nice to have a change but isn't very, Wow!

[mikeashworth]

Im interested in seeing what this new marketing approach honda are taking. I would hope the car looks more interesting. The Mclaren looks bloody nice, though not sure about the renault.

[F1 FANatic]

mikeashworth, on Dec 30 2006, 07:37 AM, said:

Im interested in seeing what this new marketing approach honda are taking. I would hope the car looks more interesting. The Mclaren looks bloody nice, though not sure about the renault.

I had a wacky idea about that today, of course this is total speculation but its still fun to speculate. We know Honda tried running their cars with two different paint jobs once but what if they make two totally different paint jobs and paint the car both splitting them down the middle and then the second car could have the same but just flipped sides. Or an even wackier idea. have the entire outside of the car covered in multi colored LEDs and during the race have different advertisements flash up.

[JayStorm]

Why don't they just have one car completely 555, and the other completely Lucky Strike?

[F1 FANatic]

thats what they tried to due 5 years ago but the FIA said no

[Hunt]

JayStorm, on Dec 31 2006, 01:43 AM, said:

Why don't they just have one car completely 555, and the other completely Lucky Strike?

Sporting regs say both cars need to have the same livery.

[Player(1)]

Hunt, on Dec 31 2006, 05:52 AM, said:

Sporting regs say both cars need to have the same livery.

Wonder what possible advantage they are trying to prevent the teams from getting with that rule :S

[Autumnpuma]

Player(1), on Dec 30 2006, 11:44 PM, said:

Wonder what possible advantage they are trying to prevent the teams from getting with that rule :S

I've wondered the same thing. Why is this a rule? I saw no problem with BAR running two different liveries years ago. Maybe it's Max and Bernie's obsessive/compulsive personalities wanting all the teams to look neat and tidy and totally alike.