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[c21]

F1 FANatic, on Jan 13 2007, 08:33 PM, said:

but if you compare them to the r26 the space for the radiators almost looks like the size was cut in half, here is a picture for comparison

http://www.rsportsca...enaultf1_02.jpg

I suspect the size insnt as different as you think, also you have to take into account that they may have smaller radiators or that they may have positioned them differently.

If the rear/fuel tank area of the chassis is smaller, then they are able to position them further inboard or at a different angle than last year.

[c21]

Autumnpuma, on Jan 14 2007, 03:37 AM, said:

Well, the v8 engine actually generates more heat than the v10, but it is smaller in the 'compartment' than the v10 so there's more room for air to cool it.

As to the radiator openings, they were in cold and wet conditions and wouldn't need larger openings for the cooling. I would suspect the dry weather set-up to have bigger openings.

I've looked at the photos in Photoshop and am reasonably convinced they are real.

EDIT: Damn, that's a beautiful car.

Are you referring to the intake or the exit?

If you are referring to the intake, They are normally a permanent structure that is glued to the chassis and are not removable for changing conditions.

If you are referring to the exits, then you are correct the louvered exits are interchangeable panels with more ore less louvres for different weather conditions.

[Autumnpuma]

c21, on Jan 14 2007, 05:19 AM, said:

Are you referring to the intake or the exit?

If you are referring to the intake, They are normally a permanent structure that is glued to the chassis and are not removable for changing conditions.

If you are referring to the exits, then you are correct the louvered exits are interchangeable panels with more ore less louvres for different weather conditions.

Actually, I was referring to the intakes. During '05 and '06 I remember hearing the commentators saying that this or that car's radiator openings are smaller for different racing conditions. This would have been Steve Matchett, who actually worked for Benneton and still knows people at Renault. I had assumed that meant replacing the front intake completely, as they did back with the old qualifying format, but maybe he was only talking about putting a panel in there to close the opening a bit. It made sense because that intake creates a large bit of drag, even with the bargeboards, and any closing of it would help.

Of course, you are associated with a team and I'm sitting here in California, so you'd know best what all this is about!

[c21]

Autumnpuma, on Jan 14 2007, 07:26 PM, said:

Actually, I was referring to the intakes. During '05 and '06 I remember hearing the commentators saying that this or that car's radiator openings are smaller for different racing conditions. This would have been Steve Matchett, who actually worked for Benneton and still knows people at Renault. I had assumed that meant replacing the front intake completely, as they did back with the old qualifying format, but maybe he was only talking about putting a panel in there to close the opening a bit. It made sense because that intake creates a large bit of drag, even with the bargeboards, and any closing of it would help.

Of course, you are associated with a team and I'm sitting here in California, so you'd know best what all this is about!

Its more probable that if certain teams want to change the size of the opening it would be more likely an infill panel.

If you look closely at the cars, you will probably see that the transition between the sidepod opening and the chassis is seamless as in glued to the chassis.

Its a hell of a lot of work to change them.

Edited by c21, 14 January 2007 - 06:34 PM.

[Autumnpuma]

c21, on Jan 14 2007, 10:33 AM, said:

Its more probable that if certain teams want to change the size of the opening it would be more likely an infill panel.

If you look closely at the cars, you will probably see that the transition between the sidepod opening and the chassis is seamless as in glued to the chassis.

Its a hell of a lot of work to change them.

Makes sense. Matchett was probably talking about a panel the team temporarily inserts into the opening. Or he could have been talking about the exit louvers and I mis-heard him. No worries. Thanks for the input.

[Wez]

I expect the car that appears in the official launch shortly to have slightly different livery. It will prob include some orange in it along with the dark blue and Renault yellow.

[ecapdeville]

Quiet One, on Jan 13 2007, 06:23 AM, said:

Ahhh, Renault, how I missed you these months!

Ahhh....     

And i miss you too guys...

[Quiet One]

ecapdeville, on Jan 16 2007, 05:54 AM, said:

Ahhh....     

And i miss you too guys...

You are back! Good to see you again, amigo!

[BradSpeedMan]

Autumnpuma, on Jan 14 2007, 04:37 AM, said:

Well, the v8 engine actually generates more heat than the v10, but it is smaller in the 'compartment' than the v10 so there's more room for air to cool it.

As to the radiator openings, they were in cold and wet conditions and wouldn't need larger openings for the cooling. I would suspect the dry weather set-up to have bigger openings.

I've looked at the photos in Photoshop and am reasonably convinced they are real.

EDIT: Damn, that's a beautiful car.

yes, I'm simply in love with this Renault! lovely lovely...

c21, your technical knowledge is most impressive...

[c21]

BradSpeedMan, on Jan 16 2007, 11:01 AM, said:

yes, I'm simply in love with this Renault! lovely lovely...

c21, your technical knowledge is most impressive...

Thank you very much my good man

[ykickamoocow]

Ive found some more photo's of the Renault R27 being tested. May i say that it is easily the best looking 2007 F1 car we have seen at this present time.

[c21]

ykickamoocow, on Jan 16 2007, 12:24 PM, said:

Ive found some more photo's of the Renault R27 being tested. May i say that it is easily the best looking 2007 F1 car we have seen at this present time.

I aint no Renault fan, but you have a point there.

[ykickamoocow]

c21, on Jan 16 2007, 10:26 PM, said:

I aint no Renault fan, but you have a point there.

Im not a Renault fan either but it is easily a better looking car than the Toyota, McLaren, BMW and Ferrari cars.

[c21]

ykickamoocow, on Jan 16 2007, 12:35 PM, said:

Im not a Renault fan either but it is easily a better looking car than the Toyota, McLaren, BMW and Ferrari cars.

I want to see more shots of arond the rear suspension of the new cars, thats where the "oohs" will be.

[ykickamoocow]

I really hope Renault dont change their livery too much as it is rather nice. Look at it

[BradSpeedMan]

ykickamoocow, on Jan 16 2007, 03:46 PM, said:

I really hope Renault dont change their livery too much as it is rather nice. Look at it

It going to look nice competing with Ferrari at the front...

[Buckheadschleife]

I have never been a big Renault fan, but this car is gorgeous.  It has a very clean look to it, I think largely due to that deep blue paint without sponsors cluttering it up.  The toyota/bmw look especially cluttered due to their liverys - accentuates all the wings & such coming out of the sidepods.

[monza gorilla]

I agree with you there. The colour flatters the car. And welcome to the forums new person. Have fun!

[Player(1)]

monza gorilla, on Jan 16 2007, 05:42 PM, said:

I agree with you there. The colour flatters the car. And welcome to the forums new person. Have fun!

Yep, the ligher shade was better at doing that but still this is the best looking 2007 car so far. Apart from the rear wheel things, ubelievably ugly and ruins the flow...maybe it will grow on me later in the year.

[Autumnpuma]

I'm sure the car looks great, but It's hard to see any details in that dark blue. I would have preferred Renault go back to the yellow/black/white scheme....ah well, enough of living in the past. I did prefer the mild seven blue, but whatever....

[Buckheadschleife]

monza gorilla, on Jan 16 2007, 11:42 AM, said:

I agree with you there. The colour flatters the car. And welcome to the forums new person. Have fun!

Thanks!  I've been a voyer for about a year and a half - finally decided to jump in the mix.

[Autumnpuma]

Buckheadschleife, on Jan 16 2007, 12:48 PM, said:

Thanks!  I've been a voyer for about a year and a half - finally decided to jump in the mix.

Be sure all your protective gear is on.........

[Der Kaiser]

interesting, they're using the rear brake guard thingys

[aussief1]

kaisersalsek, on Jan 17 2007, 07:41 AM, said:

interesting, they're using the rear brake guard thingys

Yeah it is interesting, Ferrari is using them again on the F2007 and now Renault look like they will be using them. It will be interesting to see how many other teams adopt them once their new cars hit the track. They aid in getting rid of heat of the rear brakes and help with the airflow around the area.

[ykickamoocow]

Here is a photo of the Rneaults at todays test



Does anyone know who is in which car. One of the cars has a Red nose and red top while the other car has a completely blue nose which a yellow top.

[Wez]

ykickamoocow, on Jan 17 2007, 11:24 AM, said:

Here is a photo of the Rneaults at todays test



Does anyone know who is in which car. One of the cars has a Red nose and red top while the other car has a completely blue nose which a yellow top.

Fissi is on the left with red camera, the other car I presume is the test driver, maybe Piquet?

[ykickamoocow]

Wez, on Jan 17 2007, 08:40 PM, said:

Fissi is on the left with red camera, the other car I presume is the test driver, maybe Piquet?

Alright so fisichella gets the Red so what colour does Kovalainen get?

Edited by ykickamoocow, 17 January 2007 - 09:44 AM.

[Wez]

ykickamoocow, on Jan 17 2007, 11:44 AM, said:

Alright so fisichella gets the Red so what colour does Kovalainen get?

Its the same for all teams...
Number 1 driver - Red Camera
Number 2 driver - Black Camera
Test Driver - Yellow Camera

The only time you usually see the yellow ones being used are in Friday Practices though.

The red nose is I presume just something Renault decided to use to further distinguish their cars.

[JayStorm]

Yeah, I think Alonso had the Red tip and Camera last year.

I like the new blue for the Renault cars, can't say I like it that much at the moment as it's virtually sponsorless.

[Player(1)]

ykickamoocow, on Jan 17 2007, 09:24 AM, said:

Here is a photo of the Rneaults at todays test



Does anyone know who is in which car. One of the cars has a Red nose and red top while the other car has a completely blue nose which a yellow top.

They look so smooth...