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[Jenson_Rules]

Heres a sort of aerial view.

[goferrarigo]

ykickamoocow, on Jan 25 2007, 05:16 AM, said:

RA107 stops in Button's first lap out

why is his helmet on the ground. is he praying for a better luck his year???

[ykickamoocow]

Does anyone know when Honda plan to reveal their 2007 livery instead of the black they are currently using.

[kup]

ykickamoocow, on Jan 27 2007, 11:50 AM, said:

Does anyone know when Honda plan to reveal their 2007 livery instead of the black they are currently using.

2007 February 12th.

[DanielB]

The Sport section in this weeks Auto Express says the car will carry "green slogans" when the livery is unveiled. Make of that what you will....

[funkejay]

DanielB, on Jan 25 2007, 07:15 AM, said:

Some wallpaper sized pics on HondaRacingF1.com, but they're very dark and it's hard to make much out. Side pods look really scuplted and taper away massively at the rear, but it needs to be painted in a proper livery to be able to see the details properly in photographs.

That was the first thing I noticed as well - significantly more so than last years, and from what I can tell of the other cars launched so far, more so than any of the other '07 cars as well. Here's a pic that shows in detail just how aggressive they've been with the side pod sculpting....

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[Jenson_Rules]

That must be one of the benefits of having the exhaust system further up like it is this year. However so far the car seems disappointingly slow!

[Wez]

Jenson_Rules!!!, on Feb 1 2007, 03:41 PM, said:

That must be one of the benefits of having the exhaust system further up like it is this year. However so far the car seems disappointingly slow!

It improves airflow over the rear wings... but you need more than just a good exhaust system to make a race winner!
I still think the Honda will be quick this year.

[ykickamoocow]

Wez, on Feb 2 2007, 01:27 AM, said:

I still think the Honda will be quick this year.

Honda have a history of trying to go reallly quick during preseason testing. In both 2005 and 2006 they were regularly topping the time sheets in testing but when it came to racing they were off the pace. I can think of 2 options.

1. honda no longer want to top the time sheets in testing which means the times dont matter or

2. Honda have been trying to top the time sheets but there car just isnt quick enough.

[ykickamoocow]

Here is Honda going at its best speed

[David Adams]

ykickamoocow, on Feb 1 2007, 03:08 PM, said:

Here is Honda going at its best speed

LoL! I think they will most likely be sandbagging though - as someone else mentioned, they don't want to top the time sheets and start the season of poorly again - I think the whole team was bitterly disappointed after that and kinda caught out in a slump through the first 1/4 of the season...

Thats how I read it anyway!

[Jenson_Rules]

True. I personally think Mclaren are showboating and arn't actually as quick as it seems!

[ykickamoocow]

Jenson_Rules!!!, on Feb 2 2007, 04:13 PM, said:

True. I personally think Mclaren are showboating and arn't actually as quick as it seems!

McLaren dont really have a history of showboating.

[Jenson_Rules]

ykickamoocow, on Feb 2 2007, 05:20 AM, said:

McLaren dont really have a history of showboating.

No but after last season I really don't think they are as quick as it seems!

[ykickamoocow]

Jenson_Rules!!!, on Feb 2 2007, 04:24 PM, said:

No but after last season I really don't think they are as quick as it seems!

Thats true as the new McLaren looks quite abit like the old McLaren.

[Wez]

ykickamoocow, on Feb 2 2007, 07:26 AM, said:

Thats true as the new McLaren looks quite abit like the old McLaren.

I read a story in Autosport which said last season the Michelin tyres did not suit the Mclaren and it was in fact their biggest draw back...
The fact that the team will be using Bridgestone this season will improve the teams performance massively... Or so they say!

[Autumnpuma]

Wez, on Feb 1 2007, 11:28 PM, said:

I read a story in Autosport which said last season the Michelin tyres did not suit the Mclaren and it was in fact their biggest draw back...
The fact that the team will be using Bridgestone this season will improve the teams performance massively... Or so they say!

The fact that they have a double-world champion is sure to do the same thing!

[David Adams]

Inded, in the interview with Adrian Newey he mentioned the tyres as the fall in their design, it seems it was designed for the races whereby a tyre must last the whole duration, then the FIA decided in its infinite wisdom to change the whole thing back to 7 sets per weekend.

*grumbles*

[Wez]

Autumnpuma, on Feb 2 2007, 09:45 AM, said:

The fact that they have a double-world champion is sure to do the same thing!

Indeed!

I read an interesting article where Pater Sauber (who was Raikkonens team boss in 2001) said he hopes Ferrari have good knowledge on setting up their 2007 cars themselves as Kimi puts in absolutely no input on car setup.
I would say all the greats of the sport have had a skill in car setup, particularly the likes of Senna and Schumacher who would both spend most the night on race weekends analysing stats and feedback for their setup.
So Mclaren getting Alonso who also has a very good touch for car setup ahead of Kimi who probably goes and gets drunk in his hotel after practice instead is another massive boost!

[ykickamoocow]

Honda duo rave about 2007 car

Jenson Button has enthused about Honda's new RA107 car, despite being spotted broken down at the side of the track on Thursday at the Valencia group test.

"The new car feels very good indeed," he said. "We are going to put many miles under its wheels before the first race and try to develop the car prior to the season."

His Brazilian teammate, Rubens Barrichello, is also upbeat, but cautioned that there is "a lot of work to do" before the green lights shine.

"The car is already on the same pace as last year's chassis, despite not having all of its development parts yet," Barrichello, 34, added.

"From my laps this week, I really enjoyed the feeling of the car."

http://www.homeofspo...m.aspx?id=18104

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Button blanks 'green Honda' rumour

Jenson Button has refused to comment on rumours that his Honda might be painted green this year.

The Japanese squad revealed its 2007 car, the RA107, in an interim black livery, amid suggestions that Honda could adopt the new colour to reflect an overhaul of the company's environmental policy.

Brackley-based Honda is also searching for a fresh image after the team's former sponsor and part team-owner British American Tobacco pulled out of the sport. Green has not been used as the base for a grand prix car since Jaguar quit in 2004.

Button, 27, said whilst testing at Valencia: "I don't mind what colour the car is as long as it's fast!"

Honda's final livery will be revealed at a separate event prior to the season opening Australian grand prix.

[JayStorm]

Oh, I knew he'd say nothing. Good answer though.

Shouldn't be long to wait now i'd think. it's February already.

[jemstride]

Wez, on Feb 2 2007, 07:57 AM, said:

Indeed!

I read an interesting article where Pater Sauber (who was Raikkonens team boss in 2001) said he hopes Ferrari have good knowledge on setting up their 2007 cars themselves as Kimi puts in absolutely no input on car setup.
I would say all the greats of the sport have had a skill in car setup, particularly the likes of Senna and Schumacher who would both spend most the night on race weekends analysing stats and feedback for their setup.
So Mclaren getting Alonso who also has a very good touch for car setup ahead of Kimi who probably goes and gets drunk in his hotel after practice instead is another massive boost!

to be fair, peter sauber knew Kimi when he was only a rookie, after coming straight from formula renault. To expect kimi to have expert set-up skills in 2001 would be plain ridiculous. 6 years on, i'm sure you'll agree kimi will have learnt a massive amount since his rookie year

[Autumnpuma]

Wez, on Feb 1 2007, 11:57 PM, said:

Indeed!

I read an interesting article where Pater Sauber (who was Raikkonens team boss in 2001) said he hopes Ferrari have good knowledge on setting up their 2007 cars themselves as Kimi puts in absolutely no input on car setup.
I would say all the greats of the sport have had a skill in car setup, particularly the likes of Senna and Schumacher who would both spend most the night on race weekends analysing stats and feedback for their setup.
So Mclaren getting Alonso who also has a very good touch for car setup ahead of Kimi who probably goes and gets drunk in his hotel after practice instead is another massive boost!

Skill in car set-ups....like Prost?   Tangental thought: Wez, I love your new sig! Brilliant!

jemstride, on Feb 2 2007, 07:06 AM, said:

to be fair, peter sauber knew Kimi when he was only a rookie, after coming straight from formula renault. To expect kimi to have expert set-up skills in 2001 would be plain ridiculous. 6 years on, i'm sure you'll agree kimi will have learnt a massive amount since his rookie year

Aren't there quotes from people who recently worked with Kimi (and even Jean Todt) that say essentially the same thing as Sauber?

[Jenson_Rules]

Well maybe Honda are just running the car setting it up, testing parts etc at the moment and arnt bothered about setting the track alight yet. I'm still not happy though, just one qick lap to see if it can be fast would be good enough for me! lol. I mean surely Honda want to know it's limits aswell?

[Autumnpuma]

Jenson_Rules!!!, on Feb 2 2007, 10:25 PM, said:

Well maybe Honda are just running the car setting it up, testing parts etc at the moment and arnt bothered about setting the track alight yet. I'm still not happy though, just one qick lap to see if it can be fast would be good enough for me! lol. I mean surely Honda want to know it's limits aswell?

I don't know...I think I prefer them taking time to get it sorted instead of blistering the time sheets like they've done in the past....in those cases they couldn't deliver that speed when the season started and suffered for it.

[Jenson_Rules]

Indeed, this is why I would like testing times to be an average speed worked out from all the laps they have done that day if you get what I mean, that would give a far better indication of where everyone is and I'm sure Honda would not be anywhere near the bottom then!

[Autumnpuma]

Jenson_Rules!!!, on Feb 3 2007, 08:17 AM, said:

Indeed, this is why I would like testing times to be an average speed worked out from all the laps they have done that day if you get what I mean, that would give a far better indication of where everyone is and I'm sure Honda would not be anywhere near the bottom then!

Hmm...since we're in the era of creating sport and entertainment, why not make a rule that all cars must post a time on a set fuel level,  then publish those times.....

[Jenson_Rules]

Well Wez, thanks for misleading us all. Clearly the RA107 is a complete pile of Sh#t. Whoopadeedoo!

[Jenson_Rules]

Well Wez, thanks for misleading us all. Clearly the RA107 is a complete pile of Sh#t. Whoopadeedoo!

[jemstride]

dont worry, JB's only got a couple more years left on his Honda contract. After that, mclaren and ferrari will both want him