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Poll: Grand-prix (motor Racing) Innovators From 1906 Onwards
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 10:55 AM
After the shortcomings of the previous poll I've made this new one.
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 12:52 PM
I was going to vote for Minardi because of Their popularity, for their smallness, for surviving for 20 years on a stringline budget and for giving Mark Webber a start in His brillant career but considering that they were not there and considering that my second option Andrea Moda were not there also mainly because of how well they treated The Black Stig My final vote went to Auto Union.
Second would have been Williams then Mclaren.
Second would have been Williams then Mclaren.
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 01:04 PM
Easy choice: Lotus/Renault.
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"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 04:20 PM
Not an easy choice. Each have merit.
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 08:34 PM
Dunno.
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 11:02 PM
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 08:51 AM
Hey DOF there are 2 teams that you have put into the poll which I have never have heard before and they are Panhard and Voisin, can you please give us a short summary of these two teams please...
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 11:19 AM
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^ Well french car manufacturer Panhard created (tough long before the 1906 GP) the Systeme Panhard a.k.a. the front-engined rear-wheel-drive layout (a.k.a. the all-american-as-God intended it layout ).
The Panhard race cars (city-to-city, Gordon Bennett, from 1906 Grand Prix cars) perfected this layout and thus contributed in a great deal in making it universally accepted till WWI. Panhard also came up ~ 100 years ago with the Panhard rod for their cars and race cars (tough no longer found in today's Grand Prix cars, some still use it).
Panhard was a clear example of (Grand Prix) racing improving the breed.
Voisin created the first monocoque Grand Prix car in 1923. It was also one of the first aerodynamical Grand Prix cars and had a rather unconventional wedge aero nose.
^ Well french car manufacturer Panhard created (tough long before the 1906 GP) the Systeme Panhard a.k.a. the front-engined rear-wheel-drive layout (a.k.a. the all-american-as-God intended it layout ).
The Panhard race cars (city-to-city, Gordon Bennett, from 1906 Grand Prix cars) perfected this layout and thus contributed in a great deal in making it universally accepted till WWI. Panhard also came up ~ 100 years ago with the Panhard rod for their cars and race cars (tough no longer found in today's Grand Prix cars, some still use it).
Panhard was a clear example of (Grand Prix) racing improving the breed.
Voisin created the first monocoque Grand Prix car in 1923. It was also one of the first aerodynamical Grand Prix cars and had a rather unconventional wedge aero nose.
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 08:40 PM
DOF_Renault_BMW, on Mar 1 2008, 10:55 AM, said:
After the shortcomings of the previous poll I've made this new one.
Cheers
I don't know enough about all the old makes to make a proper decision, I suppose they all contributed in their own way.
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 09:03 PM
Man, Voisin was very innovative, creating a car that looked a lot like an image used without permission that got replaced with a notice from the website...never seen a racecar like that...
Anyway, I've watched all of 25 races, so I'm not the one to ask.
Anyway, I've watched all of 25 races, so I'm not the one to ask.
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 09:50 PM
EKL, on Mar 2 2008, 11:03 PM, said:
Man, Voisin was very innovative, creating a car that looked a lot like an image used without permission that got replaced with a notice from the website...never seen a racecar like that...
Anyway, I've watched all of 25 races, so I'm not the one to ask.
Anyway, I've watched all of 25 races, so I'm not the one to ask.
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 10:06 PM
Rainmaster, on Mar 2 2008, 02:40 PM, said:
Cheers
I don't know enough about all the old makes to make a proper decision, I suppose they all contributed in their own way.
I don't know enough about all the old makes to make a proper decision, I suppose they all contributed in their own way.
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 10:26 PM
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How did you fix it? I thought you were going to get prosecuted 
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 06:17 PM
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Posted 12 March 2008 - 06:02 PM
I think you need to think laterally about this - I would argue that a company like Goodyear have been very innovative - look at the difference that tyres make on performance/speed/reliability.
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Posted 12 March 2008 - 07:02 PM
For me Lotus as I think they were the 1st F1 team to design & make a carbon fibre honeycombe monocoque chassis.
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Posted 14 March 2008 - 02:37 AM
True but Mclaren were the first team to run a fully carbon fiber monocoque.
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