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  1. He's right in so far as survey's are ever going to change anything. Other than that, he's just your average 17yo that doesn't yet know tact. Or, how to fix a car that has gone the wrong way in setup and all he can do is complain on the radio. He can drive, but he is lacking the experience needed to find solutions when it goes pear shaped.

  2. Wtf? Your the newbie and whats with replying to posts that are years old? You'll be waiting a while for a reply. I don't mean to be rude but are you serious with these posts? You do know its a formula one forum don't you? Not just a chat site.

    Bang bang...she dead...

    Carry on Pardners

  3. Well, they do throw their money their employees. The two young engineers that work with me have a friend that is working for MGP in their Graduates Programme...he has pocketed around GBP500 for every race win this year, and now is going to get another 10k for the WCC...and he's an apprentice.

    I don't care personally if MGP spend $100 or $1billion. It has nothing to do with me; they can manage their business in whatever manner they want. They could possibly do what they have done on less, but they have chosen not to. But, as I say, I couldn't give a rats behind about it.

  4. Massa is a bit of a dweeb in these sorts of things. Understandable since his accident, but he, along with everyone else, had the opportunity to pull into the pits and stop driving. No one has a gun to their heads.

    Likewise, the only person at fault with Jules crash is Jules. He didn't drive to the conditions, i.e. slow down. But these days it always has to be someone elses fault, and never any personal responsibility.

    Like I said in another thread recently, I smacked the armco very hard the other week in a wet weather race, wiping out the rear corner of my car. Several drivers in my class sat out the race, and they all have perfectly good, working cars. I don't. I also could have seriously hurt myself. Luckily, I only had a sore neck for a few days, and a bruise on my right hand side. Should I blame race control and the stewards for letting us race in pouring rain? No. Of course not. They didn't make me plant my right foot down the straight. They didn't make me think I could pass the guy infront of me that was going slower because of the wet. No, it was all on me. My choice, to race, to go fast, and the consequences are on me, even if Sh#t happens.

  5. Precisely, which is why I don't think what you're saying can be true.

    How do these lights work then? If not spotlighting, what is the purpose? They can't aim at the lense as that would over expose the picture. And if they are not powerful enough to spotlight, then they will be doing jack.

  6. Track breaking up is going to make this very interesting now. Having raced myself on a track breaking up, I can say it's not much fun at all, and gets exponentially worse with the more power you have.

    And the 'roo's strike again...without actually hitting anyone. Scheming, coniving, devlish animals....

  7. Closed c#ckpits are for the future, but not for Formula 1. If they were to come about, I do believe it will be for an entirely other form of Formula racing when cars are +250mph. A cover would have done nothing for Jules unless it was something like 25mm thick, at which point vision would be so altered due to curvature change and magnifcation, impurity of the acyrlic and other manufacturing faults (ever been to an underwater tunnel aqauria?). To maintain vision purity the screen could be no thicker than what you have on your modern road car, and I bet not a single screen would survive being used as a lever for lifting a 6-tonne front end loader.

    Stupid knee jerk reaction from a bunch of hindsight engineers, if you ask me. In hindsight, a lot of people wouldn't have boarded the Titanic, and in hindsight neither would I have raced in pouring rain myself three weekends ago in which I spun 180-deg when in a straight line and then hit the armco at over 130kph and doing considerable damage to my orange Lola. But Sh#t happens. Some times you get to walk away like I did, albeit with a substantial repair bill, and other times you unfortunately end up like Jules.

  8. I think you just proved my point exactly...we send our dumb ones over to you, to improve Aussies IQ level, and our IQ level goes up at the same's ot about us sending our smart people over to you lot :P

  9. By the way, an F1 simulator is not a computer game where it is all visual, the simulator will replicate all of the things which you mention, G, fatigue, suspension settings. It will not replicate heat, because that is not a problem in an F1 car. Here is a hint, the c#ckpit is open and the engine is behind the driver.

    I do not see the F3 vs F1 comparison, F3 has never been close to F1, it is not close now and it never has been.

    Some drivers undoubtedly need time in GP2 to acclimatise to the G forces and corner speeds of F1, or approaching F1. Maybe this guy does not?

    Another by the way, GP2 does not use the same compounds as F1. Two compounds per weekend, but not the same compounds. GP2 uses the same compounds as in 2013, which F1 clearly does not.

    Here is another hint - they go to hot places...and there is not that much movement of air IN the c#ckpit. Heat is an issue fo rthe drivers at Malaysia, China, Singapore, Abu Dhabi, Bahrain, even Austin...they're sitting against radiators, without much insulation, and wearing four layers of fire proofing...heck just at the last GP Button was complaining about a hot bottom in free practice.

  10. Well, at least we lot couldn't get past your health and safety regulations....

    And we send people to Aussie to up your countries average IQ, whilst increasing our own at the same time....

  11. Will grates me...I just can't shine to him. He is overly aggressive at times, and I have yet to hear him admit a crash or incident is his fault.

    Talented? Yes.

    Worthy champ this year? Yes.

    In my top five of guys to support in Indycars? No. (TK, Scotty, Newgarden, Hawksworth, Monty, Pagenaud, Castroneves, Conway, in no particular order...)

    As for the talent pool down here in Australasia, I think if we ever had enough money in motorsport, then the Europeans and the Americans would find themselves struggling to match the Kiwi/Ozzie onslaught.

    Lowndes, Scotty McJandal, Van Gizzy, Frosty, Tander, Whincup - all guys that would be the equal of any of the current crop of F1 drivers.

  12. Handy have you seen him race?

    If I recall correctly, you used to work with Ron Tauranac, did you not? If so, then you will appreciate my position on this. It is not merely his racecraft that should be judged, and even so, this has only so far been judged against those his age, and more importantly, experience. Judging him on his sole F3 season (still ongoing with two rounds left), sees him sitting second in the championship, 10 points ahead of third place. Of the 27 races they have had, he has failed to score any points in 10 of them, so 37% of the races. He has however had a run of victories, notably at Spa and Norisring, where he notched a string of six wins in a row. In total, he has 7 wins, 2 seconds, 3 thirds, and 5 other points paying places.

    Now we all know Spa as a drivers track, so that indicates (to me at least), that there is some latent talent in him. Norisring, however, is more of an arcade track (built on the old Nazi rally grounds in fact).


    Not exactly a technical track...

    The average age of the 28 drivers in Euro-F3 is a twinkle under 20, so let's just call it that. Max is the youngest (or second youngest). A few drivers have been in GP3.

    The problem I forsee is the exponential difference in experience and technical ability needed between a Euro-F3 (Dallara built, and homologated since 2012 season, with a 2-litre, naturally aspirated engine producing about 200hp at 7400rpm, running on Hankook tyres), against an F1 car producing four times the horsepower, running on Pirelli tyres.

    No two different formula cars are the same - a FFord has to be driven in a different manner to a FFord2000 for instance; they even used to share the same chassis back in the day (80's) and the difference was the 2-litre engine as against the 1600cc, and a set of wings slapped on front and rear.

    I plug around in my Lola T340 Formula Ford's...I'd really love to drive a Ralt RT4, but I'm not so dumb as to think that the step up is only a small thing. Per Jem's report of Max's interview on the radio, Max doesn't share this opinion about cars, and that is naivety brought about by age and experiene, which is limited to karts and Euro-F3.

    However, amongst all the possible shortfalls that he will have on the technical side, the most important of all is his ability to understand tyres. You don't learn about tyres from 20-odd races, and you don't learn about Pirelli's when you're running on Hankooks. Making tyres work is the most important part of motorsport as they are the ONLY means of transferring all that power in the engine, all that downforce in the wings, to the track and into forward motion.

    You stuff up your approach to tyres, and you stuff up your lap times. And it doesn't matter how many sensors you have in your car to monitor, how many streams of telemetry you record, tyres and tyre wear are only ever properly analysed after the fact, and what you learn about that set of tyres only actually is useful for that set of tyres, which in F1, you're never going to use again. Tyres are the sole domain of the driver to monitor in real time, and even the best guys out there can overcook them, or never "switch them on".

    The guys in GP2 have the advantage of running the same compound Pirelli's as F1 - those guys are learning the tyres, how to manage them, make them work for more than five laps.

    Also, the GP2 guys, are racing over an hour. Euro-F3? Maximum of 35-minutes (per the regs). Even the GP2 lads talk about how different the "short" race is to the "long" race they do in terms of how much it takes out of them. The guys stepping up from GP3 also talk of the step up in fitness, strength and mental ability required to go from their 30-40min races to the hour+ races of GP2. Max is going to have to go from 35-mins up to almost two hours at some race tracks - that is a huge ask, especially the mental side. Sure, he can probably sit in the simulator for two hours and do a GP distance, but he's not got physical fatigue brought about by g-forces, heat, and the ever so soft as a pillow suspension affecting his performance. He hasn't got to make that split second decision when he's tired, or running in the rain for an hour or more...

    I am not saying he doesn't have talent. He is doing very well results wise in Euro-F3. He is just not ready for F1, and it is unfair, in my opinion, to drop him in the deep end. The chances are so much higher that he will fail, and destroy any chance of ever driving in F1 again, than they are of him performing well.

    I see his Dad is his manager, and I think he is doing (has done) a disservice to his son. F3 today is not what F3 of Jos' day was - it is too many rungs below F1 these days.

    Personally I would have put him in GP2 alongside Sainz Jr next year, with the carrot of a seat at STR the following year. This is what I would do at the very, very least. Then he can learn the tyres, understand how the race distances affect his body, and have a barometer against arguably some very talented other drivers. It would not have been hard to put either Kvyatt or Vergne on a one year deal next year and move either one on in 2016 for Sainz or Max.

    And that is the reasons behind why I think this is one experiment bound to fail.

  13. Hey handy, what about robin Frijins? How highly do u rate him champ?

    Frijins - very capable, but he seems to have gone a little off the boil. Certainly one to watch for.

    Just heard a very brief interview with Max on the radio in my car. First of all, his english for a 16-yr old is great! Definitely getting an A* in that school subject!

    He's not short on confidence. He said last year he made the jump from karts to cars and has done well, and that's a much bigger step than going from cars to F1. Naive? We'll see.

    He was asked if he's worried about the danger of F1, and he said "no not really. The cars are so safe now and I think there's more danger cycling in the city than driving an f1 car". He is right there.

    Bad BBC: their sport correspondent kept pronouncing 'Jos' incorrectly!

    Naive? Hell yes! There is so much different between the step of lower formulae to F1. I'm not sure to know where to begin, but horsepower and grip, engineering feedback and fitness are all at the top of my list.

    He is going to have to be babied on the engineering side - his feedback will be awful as he simply hasn't put the ground work into knowing what changes do what to the car - you don't learn that in a simulator. Only by the seat of your pants will you learn it, and it takes time - sort of like muscle memory playing guitar or piano.

    I pity the people he gets in the way of next year....

  14. I'm only wearing my rose tinted glasses today, and totally overlooked that period dam.gif

    I'm thinking more the 80's and 90's.

    For all we know the Honda engine in the BAR was was the car that was balls. And so it is in any argument over motorsport - is it the car? the engine? the driver?

    Anyways, goldstar for Jem for picking out the fault in my argument :)

  15. I do not rate Kvyat - at all. The voice in the back of my head says to me, that, yes, people can get better at their craft over time, but the season he came to NZ to compete in TRS, he was spanked all over the race track. There are a tonne of drivers better than him.

    Sainz Jnr is a great driver. I'd take him over Max any day of the week for my team.

    Coletti, ditto.

    Jolyn Palmer is proving to be a metranomic driver and always at the pointy end

    And Nasr is plain quick.

    Alex Lynn - I rate him highly too.

    In that season of TRS, Mitch Evans was the Champion - currently 4th (from memory) in GP2 standings, and of course past GP3 champion. Second was Nick Cassidy, another Kiwi plying his craft in Europe, but missed out on a GP3 drive through lack of $$$. Third was Jamie McNee, who is just a young'un rug rat here in NZ. Fourth was Scott Pye, now a V8 Supercars driver. Then Kvyatt in fifth. He won one race, but was out driven by Alex Lynn five times. Daniil had this massive slump in the middle of the season (one that lasts five consecutive weekends), and came back reasonably well towards the end, but I can't but recall the gulf in talent between Mitch and Cassidy to the rest of the field that year....

    Money talks. Especially Russian money, it seems.

    But, yeah...I'd put at least ten other drivers ahead of Max Verstappen that are not currently in F1....(drum roll please)

    Sainz Jr





    Mitch Evans

    Richie Stanaway

    Stoffell Van Doorne

    Stephane Richelmi

    Jack Hawksworth

    Jonny Cecotto Jnr (even if he is crash prone :P )

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