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  1. Trouble and controversy seems to follow Hamilton! Not that this situation is in any way his fault.

    So what do we reckon the penalty will be? This isn't as bad as mclaren's spy scandal where they were disqualified from the championship but my bet is a hefty fine, no points deductions.

    Did McLaren ever use the plans? Nope. Why? Becuase they were only relevant for that years car, and therefore only any good had they gotten the plans the year before. It was McLarens alleged lying that got them the fine, not the data. I do recall Toyota having some data acquired the same way around the same time. Nought much happened to them.

    Merc is testing next years tyres...NEXT YEARS TYRES...ie they will be a reality, not as in the case of McLaren where all they really would have gotten from some plans was to see how else they could swing a cat.

    Merc threrefore would get an adavantage in 2014 having generated baseline data.

    I think that this would therefore be worse than Spygate.

  2. Oh I thought that this was going to be a competition about who stuffed up the electrics, and then you went and ruined it by providing the answer.

    My vote was going to go to Brad. You just can't trust South Africans.

  3. A quick histoury lesson for the young....(making myself sound old..ewck)

    Inline turbo fours have history in Aussie Touring Cars - Nissan with the all conquering Skyline (lapped everyone (or nearly everyone) at Bathurst one year), plus the Ford Sierra. Holden was running around with a V8 and could never match them. This became the precursor to getting rid of the 2000cc cars.


    Ford Falcon is a dodo in three years. This effectively has no bearing on the V8 supercars, as they are now bespoke chassis with Ford Falcon panels (before the current cars there really did live a production chassis, albeit modified). Holden has also said that they are on the last generation of the Commodore but have not announced it's official demise.

    If news is floating around about V6's then this could be becuase the Aussie car industry is pretty much on it's knees in terms of producing their own car (they still have manufacturing plants for other marquee). If V6 rules came in, then I would say that the title would revert to Australian Touring Cars, and not V6 (slightly less) Super Cars

  4. I would have thought that he would have left the vrrrm, vrrrm, vrrrm, vrrrm, vrrrm pulse start technique long behind him in Formula First/Vee. I would hope he's doing the vrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMMM (drop clutch) go technique.

    Using the pulse technique, there is a 50/50 chance your revs are dropping when the lights go out.

    Doing the redline technique means you are at full revs and the engine will only drop off for a second as the clutch bites.

  5. The essence of TC, which is indeed banned these days (as should be power steering and flappy paddles), is that you just put your foot down and the torque and wheel slip is monitored so as to ensure no wheel spin which 1) gets you nowhere fast and 2) brings the back end around to say hello to the front.

    That's a pretty basic overview, because the drivers wouldn't actually just plant their right foot; they will still be feathering in the corners when accelerating as this is what they have learnt in all grades of open wheelers on the way up the ladder. The TC just "fixes" any over exuberance. TC tries to equal out the torque at the wheel from side to side. Higher torque on one wheel over the other will generate more force (traction), thus begin the car spinning. TC matches torque and corner balance (cross weight transference) to prevent one wheel getting more force (traction) on the ground than the other.

    Without TC, you can do burn outs (in the olden days (a few years ago) you would hear every race from Martin Brundle how the drivers would be turning off the TC as the formed up on the grid so they can spin the wheels and put some rubber down). Without TC, the back end will wiggle a bit, which can be seen on the skid marks, but it will generally be just one sustained arc. Because one wheel is travelling on a longer arc (the outer one), and because there is more weight transfer on the outer wheel, you will get a darker outer skid mark. You can try this experiment at home...it's fun :)

    With TC, the wheels, in theory, should not put down any rubber.

    If Webber peeled off without laying rubber, then maybe he just has a better right foot, or was pointing straighter (or at least the front wheels were). If he laid rubber, then this would be an indication that he didn't have TC at all, or if he did, it failed miserably.

    The engine note would not necessarily change if you had or did not have TC. TC works on the torque at the wheel, not torque at the engine. All the magic is done in the 'box.

    McLaren still supplies all the ECU's. One would imagine that it will be harvesting data all the time in respect to engine torque, wheel torque, yaw, and wheel speed. From that data you would be able to map left and right hand side wheel torques to see if they were being maintained equally which would indicate TC. No driver can do that. Or should I say, do that consistently.

    A team could still put in a piggy back system of their own to run TC, but the ECU measurements of the above would still occur, and you would be found out.

    The fact that Webber always seems to bog down off the line might actually indicate that he prefers to run a high 1st gear. A high 1st gear will prevent wheel spin, but this is offset with the car getting up to speed quickly. I have a high 1st gear in my car, comparative to everyone else on the grid. I can hold 1st gear normally for 200m if I really wanted to (I don't though, as if I did that then I'd be well back). The bonus for me is that I do not wheel spin (TC in a 40-yr old non-TC Formula Ford), and if the guy infront does, then I have the good chance of passing him off the line; at least that is the theory. However, it really does help in wet and damp conditions, where you go from 8th to 3rd in 100m on a quite damp track.

    If his 1st gear was higher than wasshisface, then chances are, that his skiddies would look different on the track.

    Or perhaps it was just something to do with green aliens.

  6. I would just like to pick a few bones:

    Pirelli F1 tyres are black. So too are their road tyres.

    Pirelli F1 tyres are round. So too are their road tyres.

    Pirelli F1 tyres are filled with nitrogen. So too can your road tyres if you ask nicely at the tyre shop (the ones that do nitro fills).

    Pirelli F1 intermediate and wet tyres have treads. So too do their road tyres.

    Pirelli F1 tyres transmit the engine torque to the ground. So too do their road tyres.

    Pirelli F1 tyres will go flat if driven over nails. So too will their road tyres.

    I could go on. But I am sure you will see that it is just not their name on the sidewall that makes them similar to road tyres.

    And so endeth the sermon.

    Oh, and Kimi sucks.

    The last bit of ice cream off the stick.


  7. Well, he wouldn't go anywhere in Champcars, as that series ceased to exist some years ago.

    I think he would do reasonably well in V8's - the field is pretty open really - afer today's race, six points separate 2nd overall to 6th overall (or was it third to sixth????) Anyways, Australia needs another good Aussie in there before Scotty Mac, the Giz and Fabio take over for NZ and put Ockerland in it's place. (It is about time you lot realised that you are the West Island afterall :P )

    In Indycar I think he would be mid pack to top five sort of material for the first year - so much technology is not in those cars that it will take a bit to unthink it all and drive with your backside again like in Formula Ford. If he did two or more years he would become more dominant. Had Rubes stuck out another year, then I think he would have been up the front. Rubes is definately a better driver than Ryan Hunter-Reey-Reey

  8. Nah. Hamilton, Nico, Seb, and Freddy are just plain better than Schuie. Schuie just lucked into a peachy period of less competition, sort of like a big fish in a little pond scenario. His closest competition was Mika through his dominant years. He had more competition in his Benetton years but who knows if they cheated or not back then, and frankly, I don't care if they did or didn't - his name is in the record books.

    If he was ten years younger he would have been on par with the other four, but he wasn't ten years younger. He was ten years slower. Ten years less hungry. Ten years with his mind more on other things. Ten years worse in his eyesight. Ten years worse in his reactions.

    (Although in saying that, in thirty years from now, his reactions and race craft will be better than what mine is today!! :P )

  9. No reason to believe he won't win a race this year. At least one.

    To do WEC he'd be having to be paid a Sh#tload, otherwise, why go there? He's been and done it. Nothing against all the very good drivers that are doing it now, and I think that there is going to be a real classy field at Le Mans, but it just doesn't seem suited to me for Mark.

    As a sports person you always look for the next challenge, and he hasn't done Bathurst nor Indy 500...if I was in his shoes, then I'd be thinking along trying my hand at either of those two series. And there is nothing holding him back from doing a Le Mans AND race V8 Supercars (one of the current grid is doing it this year)

  10. Mike the Shoe would continue to go as well as Rusty the Enforcer is going in V8's...past the optimum prime to be competitive agianst all the teeny-boppers.

    This is not to say that Mike has lost it...just lost it comparatively to the rest of the F1 field.

    Nico would have again down troued him at the majority of races.

  11. RBR or...

    ...won't be WEC. Been there. Done that. Had a flipping good time. (Geddit???)

    ...won't be NASCAR - too old in the tooth is Marky Mark for learning how to turn left with a steering wheel shoved under your chin

    ...might be Indycar as winning the 500 would be alluring

    ...might be V8 Supercars because Lowndes is long in the tooth now and needs a break (me jokes)...maybe in the Supercheap car when Rusty retires at the end of the year. The allure of winning The Great Race as an Ocker has a real drawcard...could follow fellow F1 driver Larry Perkins, mayhaps?

    ....might be F5000 Tasman Revival Series because they are meaner and tougher than modern F1 (OK, I'm just wishing that since then I'll be in pitlane with him...hehehe)

  12. Sorry, but I don't see what is your point. From all that has been said it is obvious that the teams did not know about it, which makes it secret. Now, unless there's a global conspiracy of epic propportions in which "they" doesn't want to know the truth (because we can't handle the truth!) that



    important blah

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    thats interesting blah

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    (Just paraphrasing the above :P )

    Young Mike explains it much better than I ever could:


  13. Since when has a 110-dBa engine being run ever been secret?

    Secret, my arse.

    You'd have to have bricks in your head if you ever thought a F1 team could run a secret test the very next day of a grandprix. Of course, most journo's these days do have bricks in their heads, and the articles they write aren't even worth being used as toilet paper. What has been reported so far is 1% of the story, and the only people that it was "secret" for were aforementioned bricks for brains journo's.

    The test was not secret. It wasn't even obfuscated.