Ikyrotz 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 It boils down to his 'I don't give a sh!t attitude' approach to F1. If he is allowed to drive with a nothing to lose (apparently) approach he excels. I imagine he is a very sensitive person and doesn't manage pressure very well, so he tries to engineer a situation where the pressure of expectation is deflected onto someone else, be it Lewis in 07 or Nando in 05. I am not sure if that is so. Rather, it appears to me that when he is in a comfortable lead (be it the championship or a race), he loses concentration and, hence, his top form, because he does -not- feel the pressure. I would imagine the pressure having been much bigger on him last year around mid-season, when it seemed like he was going from a bad race to another after a very good opening weekend in Australia, yet he was expected to be the top candidate for the WDC. We all know how he managed those pressures, with his brilliant latter-half of the season. My conclusion would therefore be, that Kimi excels when he faces the pressure of not having performed as well as people expect him to, and that he really needs this pressure to find his top form. I guess what I'm saying is that, the pressure for a driver who is expected to fight for the WDC must be greater when he is trailing in points, not when he is leading, and Kimi seems to excel only when he is under pressure. In F1 it's the pressure of expectation that has been the undoing of many good drivers- Heikki - JPM - Fisi - Piquet I agree on JPM there, but Heikki certainly responded very well to the pressure he faced last year and, in my opinion, is just getting better and better. Jury is still out on Piquet, I think it's too early to write him off yet. That is why I will always rate Nando as one of the best F1 drivers ever - to lose a 25 point lead to a 7 times WDC and still come out on top was awesome. Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Vitor Meira. Drove his balls off today, especially with that 3-wide move on the second-to-last restart. Shame he didn't win. Oh. The other race. I didn't watch, so I'll vote for the winner because, well, he won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaster 7 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 I am not sure if that is so. Rather, it appears to me that when he is in a comfortable lead (be it the championship or a race), he loses concentration and, hence, his top form, because he does -not- feel the pressure. I would imagine the pressure having been much bigger on him last year around mid-season, when it seemed like he was going from a bad race to another after a very good opening weekend in Australia, yet he was expected to be the top candidate for the WDC. We all know how he managed those pressures, with his brilliant latter-half of the season.My conclusion would therefore be, that Kimi excels when he faces the pressure of not having performed as well as people expect him to, and that he really needs this pressure to find his top form. I guess what I'm saying is that, the pressure for a driver who is expected to fight for the WDC must be greater when he is trailing in points, not when he is leading, and Kimi seems to excel only when he is under pressure. I agree on JPM there, but Heikki certainly responded very well to the pressure he faced last year and, in my opinion, is just getting better and better. Jury is still out on Piquet, I think it's too early to write him off yet. Agreed. Post more often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Post more often. Post less often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaster 7 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Post less often. Bah you cheeky Americans, whaddya gonna do, shoot me? You do have a point though, I mean I have made 58 posts today... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaster 7 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Sorry, 59. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussief1 4 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Sutil was the best driver out there, he drove the race of his life and in the process learnt a hard lesson. Sutil is something of a wet weather Monaco specialist, remember practice 3 last year?? Great drive by Mark again, he was quick and most importantly kept his nose clean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Todt 4 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Vitor Meira. Drove his balls off today, especially with that 3-wide move on the second-to-last restart. Shame he didn't win.Oh. The other race. I didn't watch, so I'll vote for the winner because, well, he won. You get two t-shirts, and one month free supply of packed orange juices from Mike from the American church of St. Lewis Hamilton for that vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
la force supreme des mclaren 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Sorry, 59. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussief1 4 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 You get two t-shirts, and one month free supply of packed orange juices from Mike from the American church of St. Lewis Hamilton for that vote. Whats with the orange juice abbas??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sudarshan the shumi fan 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 sutil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandyNZL 1 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Well I was tied between Sutil and Hamilton. Both smelt and were sweaty. But since Hamilton won the race, the nod goes to him. Sutil a close second. Kubica third. Alonso was below average today I thought - his move on Heidfeld was one of the dumbest I've seen all year. Brilliant race but. Best of the season thus far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schumi4ever 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 i must admit, these topics are always fairly predictable. Its the same formula everytime. Everyone picks their favourite driver in formula 1 as driver of the day, and then arguments follow with each person defending their driver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jez 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Your point being? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yurp 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 i must admit, these topics are always fairly predictable. Its the same formula everytime. Everyone picks their favourite driver in formula 1 as driver of the day, and then arguments follow with each person defending their driver hmm okay - looking at the results of todays DOD I'm amazed at the number of undeclared Sutil fans in the forum - seems somewhat disproportionate - or has everyone just changed allegiances? my take - there are about 4 (possibly a few more) votes that are based on fanboyism (2 for Kimi???? I like the guy, but sorry he ain't no DOD today) and the rest seem to be geniune votes for DOD - a victory for impartial objectivity for once. (I agree that sadly most of the DOD polls do indeed follow the "vote for your favourite then argue" formula, but this one doesn't.) I think when someone like Sutil is running rampant in the DOD poll, people have to accept that it's down to him producing the best drive of the race, rather than fanboyism. Your point being? indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Todt 4 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Whats with the orange juice abbas??? Doctor told me that Having a glass of orange juice and Iron and protien rich food for break fast is good for health. I don't know if Eric has dead crows or live Pegion for break fast. So I decided to supply only the orange Juice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookedon-f1 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Sutil- without a doubt drove out of his skin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 hmm okay - looking at the results of todays DOD I'm amazed at the number of undeclared Sutil fans in the forum - seems somewhat disproportionate - or has everyone just changed allegiances?my take - there are about 4 (possibly a few more) votes that are based on fanboyism (2 for Kimi???? I like the guy, but sorry he ain't no DOD today) and the rest seem to be geniune votes for DOD - a victory for impartial objectivity for once. (I agree that sadly most of the DOD polls do indeed follow the "vote for your favourite then argue" formula, but this one doesn't.) I think when someone like Sutil is running rampant in the DOD poll, people have to accept that it's down to him producing the best drive of the race, rather than fanboyism. Your arrogance really does get on my nerves - All those that voted for any driver other than Sutil are fanboys because we must all 'accept' that Sutil produced the best drive of the day - That being the case why have a poll at all. Sutil overtook 3 cars under a waved yellow flag, of those, Barrichelo & Nakajima would have been well within their rights to lodge an appeal if Sutil had completed the race. Do you know of any instances where a driver has overtaken other cars under waved yellows where they have been allowed to retain the position gained - never! Sutil would not have got 4th place anyway so get off your high horse and show respect to others that may just have different view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Rumble Strip 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Not sure when this incident occurred in the race but in that case why did the stewards, quite rightly, not pull him up at the time for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Not sure when this incident occurred in the race but in that case why did the stewards, quite rightly, not pull him up at the time for it. They should have done, but instead did it at the end of the race. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67745 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Argento Reloaded 1 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Stuil, Hami and Webbo and WoD (worst of the day): Kimi, Nando. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Your arrogance really does get on my nerves - All those that voted for any driver other than Sutil are fanboys No, just the ones that voted for Hamilton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
la force supreme des mclaren 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 They should have done, but instead did it at the end of the race.http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67745 Hey Fed up.......Where did you get the pic of lewis and nicole that's on your display? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaster 7 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Your point being? Not sure when this incident occurred in the race but in that case why did the stewards, quite rightly, not pull him up at the time for it. The stewards were slow to react with this one, which isn't ideal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookedon-f1 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Didn't this incident happen when alonso tried to overtake heidveld in the hairpin ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
