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Driver Of The Day

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  1. 1. Driver of the Day???

    • Massa
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    • Kimi
      8
    • Trulli
      39
    • Kovy
      3
    • Kubica
      0
    • Webber
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    • Piquet
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There's certainly a lot of it on this forum :D

We should make a "Bollocks of the day" thread.

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We should make a "Bollocks of the day" thread.

1) Isn't this it? :D

2) "Bollocks of the day".... Bollocks today are en croute... and what would monsieur like with 'ees bollocks? Ah can recommend the saute potatoes and asparagus....

3) Actually "bollocks of the day" just would not work as people would talk more bollocks justifying why their existing postings were a load of bollocks.... it would all get very circular... but then I suppose bollocks are :D

Before you know it, you'd be knee deep in bollocks... <shudders> - what an unpleasant thought :D (I know Murray might disagree) :D

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Yep. Tennis-dad. I've been saying for months that Hamilton is being ill advised. Finally, even EVEN some of the british press is catching on:

The newspaper [Daily Express] added that Hamilton's "image of sporting integrity is in danger of exploding for lack of sound advice", and that "this sudden persecution complex and petulance does him no service".

Source: http://totalf1.com/fullstory/view/264338/M...For_Scapegoats/

I don't know about the standing of the "Daily Express" but I know that it is clear as day, as it has been from early last season, that Hamilton is being screwed over by those around him that should know better, much better.

Quite unfortunately, time is proving me right once again.

Let me help you out there. The only thing riddled with more scum is the contents of a considerably large sewage plant that has not been attended to for several decades. None of the press would have like Lewis spitting back at them; they all believe that people are afraid to criticize them. Lewis isn't. He won't be their darling. He clearly thinks "so what?". Fair play to him. He doesn't need their approval, or anyone elses. He is his own man. He doesn't read the cr*p that some of us like to.

They will paint the picture of a young man being ill-advised. It sells their gutteral filth, read by f*ck wits. I think the people advising him are people who love him (his father) and people who have considerable experience in giving such advise to drivers (McLaren personnel). Idiots who think they are better qualified to guide his career are just that.

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Let me help you out there. The only thing riddled with more scum is the contents of a considerably large sewage plant that has not been attended to for several decades. None of the press would have like Lewis spitting back at them; they all believe that people are afraid to criticize them. Lewis isn't. He won't be their darling. He clearly thinks "so what?". Fair play to him. He doesn't need their approval, or anyone elses. He is his own man. He doesn't read the cr*p that some of us like to.

They will paint the picture of a young man being ill-advised. It sells their gutteral filth, read by f*ck wits. I think the people advising him are people who love him (his father) and people who have considerable experience in giving such advise to drivers (McLaren personnel). Idiots who think they are better qualified to guide his career are just that.

Yep. I figured the paper would be discredited... hope it doesn't offend Murray and his opinion that the british press is the best in the world?

I'm sorry but I must agree with Alehop on this one, if you read this thread Alonso and Hamilton are being compared. The only reason to compare is if your a fanboy looking for excuses, Hamilton is driving badly at the moment, Alonso is too, maybe one is driving worse than the other, but who cares? They are seperate things. The fans need to move on.

Oh, come on! If the lewisterics moved on, this forum will not be half the fun...

Consider Murray's internal monologue and tell me it is not amusing:

Hamilton crashed in the pitlane but I'm delighted that Alonso drove into a wall. Somehow it makes it all better and, in comparison, Hamilton didn't do too bad...

I mean, it's freaking priceless.

I'm stuck in traffic two hours every day but Piquet passed Alonso... my life doesn't suck!

I've finally accepted that I'm going bold. I was depressed but, hey! Alonso is got too much hair! Now, I feel like a million bucks!

That Alonso, a driver most of us care about only marginally at best, is at the center of existence of some of the posters around here is endearing... but that Alonso is the nemesis against which they measure their (mis)fortunes is, simply put, HILARIOUS.

And just imagine the fun if Alonso manages to get a worthy drive! The F1 sidelines would implode with lewisteric bile... in and of itself, it is enough to wish the spaniard good luck...

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I don't think so, I'm sure other successful drivers have had close links with their family, in fact Senna springs to mind. I think it's more the press built him up too much, and now whenever he makes mistake they attack him, it was bound to happen. This of course leads to more pressure which leads to more mistakes, but once he gets out of that cycle and has a good race again that pressure will evaporate, and you will see a new Hamilton, one that has more experience than last year but all the speed. This could happen in the next race, or 5 races, but it will happen I'm sure, even the press can't keep a great talent down. Of course by the time he does recover Kimi will be long gone.

I don't think Kimi will be retiring that soon, but you never know :whistling:

I guess it comes to something in this day and age when having close ties with your family is seen as a bad thing.

Let me help you out there. The only thing riddled with more scum is the contents of a considerably large sewage plant that has not been attended to for several decades. None of the press would have like Lewis spitting back at them; they all believe that people are afraid to criticize them. Lewis isn't. He won't be their darling. He clearly thinks "so what?". Fair play to him. He doesn't need their approval, or anyone elses. He is his own man. He doesn't read the cr*p that some of us like to.

They will paint the picture of a young man being ill-advised. It sells their gutteral filth, read by f*ck wits. I think the people advising him are people who love him (his father) and people who have considerable experience in giving such advise to drivers (McLaren personnel). Idiots who think they are better qualified to guide his career are just that.

Indeed. I wonder where the inference comes from that his family , especially his Dad, gives him bad advice. I would imagine it's more likely that he is getting good advice, but is ignoring it. That's if any scenario were true.

On the whole 'having his Dad at the grand prix with him issue', I really don't see what the problem is, or why people even mention it. If I was racing in F1, I would want my Dad there too. Not because I need him there, or need to cling to home, or whatever, but because my Dad is a motorsports fan, much more than I am, so it would be good having him around, having an opinion that you trust, that is probably always constant. If anything, I am sure it would keep the old feet on the ground, because Dads are always better at everything :lol:

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Damn your eagle eyes, I thought I had managed to sneakily get that past you! :lol:

haha :lol: good thing I found some time cathing up during a very busy period at work, even few days later :P

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I don't think Kimi will be retiring that soon, but you never know :whistling:

Don't be flippant, Paul; he didn't mean it like that. He meant that his marbles will be shot away by vodka.

On the whole 'having his Dad at the grand prix with him issue', I really don't see what the problem is, or why people even mention it. If I was racing in F1, I would want my Dad there too. Not because I need him there, or need to cling to home, or whatever, but because my Dad is a motorsports fan, much more than I am, so it would be good having him around, having an opinion that you trust, that is probably always constant. If anything, I am sure it would keep the old feet on the ground, because Dads are always better at everything :lol:

Absolutely. Any family member you value the opinion of is worth having around in the sort of enviroment where reactions could be extreme without level headed rationalising.

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Yep. I figured the paper would be discredited... hope it doesn't offend Murray and his opinion that the british press is the best in the world?

But in this particular case the paper is famous in England for being the worst paper in the country, read by the worst kind of people.

Nevertheless I'm inclined to agree with you- Alonso is not the issue when discussing Hamilton's crap driving. Having said that, Alonso himself came out with a fantastic quote in an ITV interview. I can't remember the exact words but they asked him if he thought he had been painted by the press as a "comic book villain". He replied "perhaps, but at least if I am a villain I am one of the main characters", which I thought was a pretty good attitude.

This year Nando has definitely gone up in my eyes, and Lewis has definitely gone down.

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But in this particular case the paper is famous in England for being the worst paper in the country, read by the worst kind of people.

Wrong Oli, there are other papers that have a worse reputation than the Daily express here in England. I'm not sure you can classify people by the type of paper they read

I digress - 99% of F1 forums are dominatated by Lewis hamilton...there is little interest in the current WDC because he lacks charisma and doesn't engage his or F1 fans in general. I accept Lewis is losing his composure and appears to be wilting under the weight of expectation. If Lewis never wins a WDC it wont change my life or will I gain anything from it either way...for me, 07 may be his one and only chance of a WDC, but we'll have to wait and see what happens.

F1 is boring at the moment IMHO and the fans need to whip up hysteria by Lewis bashing, Alonso bashing or whoever bashing. Emotion has taken over the sport from the FIA to the teams and now down to the fans. If not for Lewis F1 would have died a slow death following the retirement of Michael - nando has lots of passionate fans, but it remains to be seen how long they will continue their enthusiasm while he languishes mid table and continues to make rookie errors in his pursuit of a podium.

People should appreciate that Lewis, although arrogant, lucky, blah blah blah...he is the best thing to happen to the sport since Michael in the 90's and Senna in the 80's, period! He's only been in the sport for a year and a half, his won 7 races and is the lead driver of a team of the calibre of Mclaren - the guy is living the dream so cut him some slack...if you can.

Just my 2p

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Wrong Oli, there are other papers that have a worse reputation than the Daily express here in England.

I'm excluding the Sport and the Star on the basis that they're porn mags rather than papers. Other than that I don't know of a paper that has less journalistic credibility than the Express. And a paper's content is informed by its readership rather than the other way around, so it's fair to say that Express readers are generally idiots. I've certainly never met one who wasn't.

As for LH, calling him the saviour of F1 seems a little over the top. F1 could live without him, and the sooner he realises that he's not the next Senna, the better for all concerned.

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Yep. I figured the paper would be discredited... hope it doesn't offend Murray and his opinion that the british press is the best in the world?

Where did I say such a thing? And in any case, the coverage is so bad in some countries that this doesn't prove the British press isn't the best at all.

Oh, come on! If the lewisterics moved on, this forum will not be half the fun...

Consider Murray's internal monologue and tell me it is not amusing:

Hamilton crashed in the pitlane but I'm delighted that Alonso drove into a wall. Somehow it makes it all better and, in comparison, Hamilton didn't do too bad...

:lol: Yup. I can't deny that I'm glad Alonso's struggling. I expect there will be plenty of people hoping he suffers the consequences of his petulant behaviour last season.

But... I didn't compare Alonso with Hamilton, or at least not until other people tried to. I simply said Hamilton's mistakes aren't as awful as people have been making out; and Alonso has been making worse mistakes than people have pointed out.

That Alonso, a driver most of us care about only marginally at best

:lol: Phewww. For a second there I thought you were one of those people who actually thought he was talented and worth keeping an eye on.

I'm not sure you can classify people by the type of paper they read

It's not perfect, but it's a good indication of their intelligence, education, political leanings etc.

I'm excluding the Sport and the Star on the basis that they're porn mags rather than papers. Other than that I don't know of a paper that has less journalistic credibility than the Express. And a paper's content is informed by its readership rather than the other way around, so it's fair to say that Express readers are generally idiots. I've certainly never met one who wasn't.

Yeah but every paper is far from perfect. The Times recently went down in my estimation and The Guardian always has its axes to grind on particular issues. The Independent is pretty useless, and The Daily Torygraph makes no secret of its affiliations. The Sun probably is more stupid than The Express, but at least everyone knows it's not trying to be a proper newspaper.

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Yeah but every paper is far from perfect. The Times recently went down in my estimation and The Guardian always has its axes to grind on particular issues. The Independent is pretty useless, and The Daily Torygraph makes no secret of its affiliations. The Sun probably is more stupid than The Express, but at least everyone knows it's not trying to be a proper newspaper.

Absolutely- they all have an agenda of some sort. I usually read the Independent (useless though it indeed is), because I find the content more interesting than the others (it also has more F1 news usually). If I have time I'll read the Telegraph as well just as a bit of a counterweight. I'm not so sure the Sun is more stupid than the Express though. Even the Sun accepts Diana is no longer a story.........

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Yeah. Usually I just visit each website and the BBC's and then search for things that interest me. Probably the FT is better but the focus on finance bores me a little.

Regarding the Express vs The Sun, I'm not an expert on either. I'd say the former uses the longer words and aspires/pretends to be a proper newspaper more, but the Sun has the more attractive presentation. Mind you, I'd have to say the Sun is breast for women's rights - and their left ones too. Both on the same page. :drool:

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Yeah. Usually I just visit each website and the BBC's and then search for things that interest me. Probably the FT is better but the focus on finance bores me a little.

Regarding the Express vs The Sun, I'm not an expert on either. I'd say the former uses the longer words and aspires/pretends to be a proper newspaper more, but the Sun has the more attractive presentation. Mind you, I'd have to say the Sun is breast for women's rights - and their left ones too. Both on the same page. :drool:

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People should appreciate that Lewis, although arrogant, lucky, blah blah blah...he is the best thing to happen to the sport since Michael in the 90's and Senna in the 80's, period!

Nope.

Not even close so far.

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Nope.

Not even close so far.

So you finally agree Micheal was the best thing that happened for the sport?

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Nope.

Not even close so far.

The arrogant and lucky part is quite close........ :reddevile:

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So you finally agree Micheal was the best thing that happened for the sport?

No, he was a disaster for the sport. Lewis isn't. But Schumi was an amazingly fast, focused driver. Lewis can be fast too and used to be focused. MS also was one of the best strategists, Lewis still has to prove that point. MS knew what his car could deliver and how much he could extract from it at every moment in the race. Lewis still has to prove that too. Michael sometimes made ballsy moves. Lewis makes more ballsy moves, in that sense, Lewis is so much fun to watch.

Then again, what do I expect from Lewis? "He is just a rookie!" (He is about to break the record for the rookie with the most prolonged career in F1). Sometimes he is just a rookie, sometimes he is the new Schumacher. Hard to argue with that. For me, is neither. He is just a great promise, one of the best drivers around, but still has lots to prove. Maybe he will learn with time and become the new Schumi. Maybe he will be great, but his attitude will keep sucking and just become a new Alonso. Or perhaps he will crumble under the attacks of the press and his own arrogance and just become the new Villeneuve Jr.

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My comments above have been misconstrued. I'm not saying Lewis is the next Michael or Senna...what I mean is that his impact on F1 has been similar to both Senna & Michael. He may fulfil his promise as a WDC or he may not, nevertheless he is the biggest draw in F1 at the moment and he hasn't even won a WDC. At this point in his f1 career he has achieved significantly more than any other F1 driver that I can recall - some will argue that is the car etc etc, but Heikki is proving that theory to be flawed as he does not have the pace of his team mate.

Lewis is his own man like Nando is his etc etc

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No, he was a disaster for the sport. Lewis isn't. But Schumi was an amazingly fast, focused driver. Lewis can be fast too and used to be focused. MS also was one of the best strategists, Lewis still has to prove that point. MS knew what his car could deliver and how much he could extract from it at every moment in the race. Lewis still has to prove that too. Michael sometimes made ballsy moves. Lewis makes more ballsy moves, in that sense, Lewis is so much fun to watch.

Then again, what do I expect from Lewis? "He is just a rookie!" (He is about to break the record for the rookie with the most prolonged career in F1). Sometimes he is just a rookie, sometimes he is the new Schumacher. Hard to argue with that. For me, is neither. He is just a great promise, one of the best drivers around, but still has lots to prove. Maybe he will learn with time and become the new Schumi. Maybe he will be great, but his attitude will keep sucking and just become a new Alonso. Or perhaps he will crumble under the attacks of the press and his own arrogance and just become the new Villeneuve Jr.

I admit one should not use the word rookie anymore, but just remember it took Micheal years to reach the level he attained. I don't really think any formula1 driver is the best thing to have happened, infact its too unfair to say so and so is the best thing to have happened, I don't judge a driver in just one year. What I like about Lewis is the way he came to F1. It was one bloody hard work. I would have myself told the press to p**s off if they kept asking me annoying questions and spreading rumours. You are Mahatma Gandhi or Jesus Christ? You don't get angry? You don't show your anger? Don't you remember how many times Micheal has walked without answering the questions from the press? I don't bloody give a damn about it, honestly he was just being himself, I would have reacted the same way he did after last GP.

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