Rainmaster 7 Report post Posted October 7, 2008 Ferrari revert to 'lollipop' system By Pablo Elizalde Tuesday, October 7th 2008, 08:55 GMT Ferrari will go back to using the traditional "lollipop" system in the Japanese Grand Prix following the problems they had in Singapore. Brazilian Felipe Massa lost all his chances of scoring a good result in the night race after the mechanic controlling the innovative lights system made a mistake and turned the green lights on before the fuel hose had been detached from the car. The lights system usually works automatically when the hose is removed, but the system was operated manually in Singapore. Team boss Stefano Domenicali said Ferrari needed to simplify things at the moment, and so they will be using the lollipop system in this weekend's race in Fuji. "In this moment we need tranquillity and therefore we prefer to go back to the old system," Domenicali told reporters. Ferrari failed to score any points in the Singapore race and lost the lead in the constructors' championship to McLaren with just three races to go. Massa is seven points behind Briton Lewis Hamilton. Source A good decision. I see they've listened to Bernie. Why they ever bothered with a system like that in the first place is another matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freaky2 1 Report post Posted October 7, 2008 Now let's hope they don't screw up again, because the lollipop man is no miracle solution and Ferrari have been having a season to forget regarding team organisation... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goferrarigo 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2008 SourceA good decision. I see they've listened to Bernie. Why they ever bothered with a system like that in the first place is another matter. I disagree... Looking ahead the lights system is much better. But they should have done more testing on it instead of just using it.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Rumble Strip 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2008 Alleluia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaster 7 Report post Posted October 7, 2008 I disagree... Looking ahead the lights system is much better. But they should have done more testing on it instead of just using it.... Yeah well: If it ain't broke don't fix it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikathegreat2 2 Report post Posted October 7, 2008 Thank God! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goferrarigo 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2008 Yeah well: If it ain't broke don't fix it But the light system is an improvement to the guy....It just needs to be perfected a bit more... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jez 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2008 SourceA good decision. I see they've listened to Bernie. Why they ever bothered with a system like that in the first place is another matter. Indeed Now let's hope they don't screw up again, because the lollipop man is no miracle solution and Ferrari have been having a season to forget regarding team organisation... Indeed Yeah well: If it ain't broke don't fix it Indeed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted October 8, 2008 But the light system is an improvement to the guy....It just needs to be perfected a bit more... +1 agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayrton Senna 1 Report post Posted October 8, 2008 The light system will never be as good as the lollipop because, if there's a problem, the only way to tell the driver to immediatly stop is by bringing down an object in front of his face. It's that simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grabthaw the Hammerslayer 4 Report post Posted October 8, 2008 The light system will never be as good as the lollipop because, if there's a problem, the only way to tell the driver to immediatly stop is by bringing down an object in front of his face.It's that simple. Agreed But to really get their attention they should fix pictures of naked women to the lollipop (in Kimi's case a picture of a bottle of Smirnoff); mind you might not work with some drivers.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5P33D3V1L 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2008 But the light system is an improvement to the guy....It just needs to be perfected a bit more... How can a flawed system be better than a system thats been used for decades and has been perfected throughout the years. Seems like a complete waste of time and risk losing both championship just to find a few tenths of a second. Someone in Ferrari needs to get the sack... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted October 8, 2008 Indeed Indeed Indeed Well, quite. Plus, I hope Ferrari are out of practice with the old lollipop system and mess up again. That would make me laugh. Otherwise I agree that their electronic system was absurd and personally I think it should have been banned on safety grounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopite Girl 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2008 Indeed Indeed Indeed Indeed. How can a flawed system be better than a system thats been used for decades and has been perfected throughout the years. Seems like a complete waste of time and risk losing both championship just to find a few tenths of a second.Someone in Ferrari needs to get the sack... I wouldn't call for the sacking of anyone. I guess they were trying to be innovative and develop new methods, trying to improve, bring F1 a bit more in to the future. It didn't work. No real need to sack anyone is it!! How do you know something is not going to work until you have tried it?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites