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Diffuser row grows ahead of Melbourne

By Jonathan NobleSaturday, March 21st 2009, 10:31 GMT

1237631528.jpgThe growing row over diffuser designs in Formula 1 appears to be heading for a showdown protest at the Australian Grand Prix, with the FIA saying it is now too late to resolve the matter before the start of the season.

The designs of the diffusers on the Brawn, Toyota and Williams have led to questions from rival teams, who think the trio are unfairly using a bigger diffuser than was originally intended by the regulations.

So far the FIA has said that it believes the designs are within the wording of the regulations, but the matter has moved up a gear with at least one team believed to have written to the governing body to state its belief that the design is illegal.

Now, FIA president Max Mosley has said that he thinks the matter can only be sorted out in Australia - because it is too late to organise a formal hearing before the first race.

In an interview with The Daily Telegraph on Saturday, Mosley said: "It's a very clever device and you can make a very good case for saying that it's legal and a very good case for saying that it's illegal. It's going to be difficult.

"What's actually happened is that teams are saying 'We think it's illegal for this and this reason.'

"If there had been more time before the detailed objections to the system were sent in, I would probably have sent it to the FIA Court of Appeal before Australia. And actually I have given thought to that this week. But there isn't time. It wouldn't be fair. I think the thing will probably come to some sort of a head in Australia."

The most likely outcome from the current situation is that one or more teams may choose to lodge a protest at the first race of the season - either once scrutineering has taken place on Thursday or after the finish of the race.

Mosley added: "One possibility is that all the teams agree that it is illegal, and therefore all the teams shouldn't have it from Barcelona. But then those teams who say it is legal will say 'Why should we do that?' And those that say it's illegal will say 'Why should we lose an advantage for four races?'

"And so probably what will happen is it will end up going to the stewards, who will make a decision. That will almost certainly be appealed by whichever side is disadvantaged. And then that will go to our Court of Appeal and be hammered out.

"It's not straightforward. I have an open mind on it at the moment - I can see it going either way. I really can. But somebody has to make their mind up and fortunately it's not my job."

This second link is the actual interview to Max Mosley.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorspor...son-opener.html

Nothing really new there.

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Well done the teams for finding loop holes and gaining an advantage. Ferrari have done it for years and are very good at it, to me its not cheating, its just thinking outside of the box and gaining an advantage where other teams dont think to develop. The rules are the same for everybody so there isnt a rule for the others to go and copy them.

No wonder why Brawn GP and Toyota look good in testing...

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The wording is all off. Either it is allowed or not. To say it takes advantage of a "loophole" is to say that it would be illegal if they had made the regulations properly.

There is also the matter of whether or not _everything_ about those diffusers is actually legal, that is, if there is something about them that is unquestionably illegal.

I won't bother to check, mainly because I'm glad the regulations are shown for what they are... useless crap. Good on BGP, Williams, and Toyota for being able to get away with it.

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I won't bother to check, mainly because I'm glad the regulations are shown for what they are... useless crap. Good on BGP, Williams, and Toyota for being able to get away with it.

For now...

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Well done the teams for finding loop holes and gaining an advantage. Ferrari have done it for years and are very good at it, to me its not cheating, its just thinking outside of the box and gaining an advantage where other teams dont think to develop. The rules are the same for everybody so there isnt a rule for the others to go and copy them.

No wonder why Brawn GP and Toyota look good in testing...

The wording is all off. Either it is allowed or not. To say it takes advantage of a "loophole" is to say that it would be illegal if they had made the regulations properly.

There is also the matter of whether or not _everything_ about those diffusers is actually legal, that is, if there is something about them that is unquestionably illegal.

I won't bother to check, mainly because I'm glad the regulations are shown for what they are... useless crap. Good on BGP, Williams, and Toyota for being able to get away with it.

Totally agree.

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I don't see anything wrong with them, they are all arranged in perfect rows. Next BMW needs to have a power bulge on their engine covers just like the M3.

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I guess they are not in the spirit of the rules, but they are legal. So, the FIA will either change the rules to cover the loophole, or all the other teams better get working on new diffusers.

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I guess they are not in the spirit of the rules, but they are legal. So, the FIA will either change the rules to cover the loophole, or all the other teams better get working on new diffusers.

Like wheel covers! :lol:

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Since the senile dwarf has already plumped for Jenson this season, I'd think the FIA + stewards will be taking a more friendly approach to the diffusers. Bernie knows that Brawn GP helped keep his grid at 20 cars and even if he hasn't invested directly, he's still got a vested interest in them doing well.

It's in the interest of F1 that some teams other than McLaren, Ferrari & BMW get a sniff this year.

I'm guessing that the stewards and the FIA will be steering this season as much as they can to the small players advantage. At least until McLaren and Ferrari make enough of a stink about it. As with last season, we'll see steward decisions engineered towards an all decisive last race.

Personally I reckon if the diffusers are within the rules then fair enough. Can't blame (or punish) BGP, Williams & Toyota for FIA's incompetance in writing up their own rules. I think it would be more unfair to dock these teams points, places or grid spots for their clever thinking than to tell the other teams to smarten up.

But then again, what I think doesn't really matter. All depend what Bernie and Max tell the stewards to do in Australia.

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This information is obtained from the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Albany. Mario Lepore Jr. 224 Route 151, Luther Road, wow gold, East Greenbush 12061 Nature of Business: Repair man Total liabilities: $81,908 Total assets: $95,820 Chapter: 13 Attorney: Michael J. O'Connor Index No.: 96-11249 Brian J. Secovnie doing business as Treatz Eatery and Anna M. Secovnie 1165 Route 9J, Stuyvesant 12173, and Route 9H, Kinderhook 12106 Nature of Business: Retail fast food/ice cream Total liabilities: $349,166.27 Total assets: $92,760 Chapter: 7 Attorney: E. Lisa Tang Index No.: 96-11246 Steven F. Dupra doing business as Just Hair 86 Edgewood Ave., Albany 12203, and 1080 Madison Ave., Albany 12208 Nature of Business: Hair salon Total liabilities: $67,039 Total assets: $4,025 Chapter: 7 Attorney: Stewart M. Finton Index No.: 96-11245 Nickolay A. Fedorow and Marie A.wow power leveling, Fedorow also known as Marie A. Smith and Marie Ostrom doing business as Regal Thunder Farm RR 1, Box 18-A, Coxsackie 12051 Nature of Business: Regal Thunder Farm Total liabilities: $125,272 Total assets: $100,213.17 Chapter: 13 Attorney: Martin J. Goodman Index No.: 96-11239 Ronald C. Bartlett and Marie A.Bartlett doing business as Jomar Kitchens and Windows 2021 Foster Ave., Schenectady 12308 Nature of Business: Kitchen remodeling Total liabilities: $102,459.34 Total assets: $44,545 Chapter: 7 Attorney: Richard H. Weiskopf Index No.: 96-11273 R. Pusatere Inc.wow gold, 21 Adams St., Troy 12180 Nature of Business: Retail/wholesale food distributor Total liabilities: $100,000 - $499,000 (est.) Total assets: Under $50,000 (est.) Chapter: 7 Attorney: John D. Rodgers/Robert J. Rock Index No.: 96-11278 Best Bagels and Deli Inc. 1 Knauf Lane, Loudonville 12211 Nature of Business: Retail/wholesale business Total liabilities: $53,119.52 Total assets: $0 Chapter: 7 Attorney: Linda A. Mandel Clemente Index No.: 96-11295 Rosati's wow gold, Auto and Home Center Inc. Route 29W, Greenwich 12834 Nature of Business: Other business Total liabilities: $125,139 Total assets: $0 Chapter: 7 Attorney: Michael J. O'Connor Index No.: 96-11300

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All this confusion / scandal over rear diffusers is another factor that makes the first race of the new season one of the best. Every season when major changes to the tech regulations are introduced come race one there are always protests. The last one I remember is with the Minardi's being allowed to run the previous years rear wing.......i think.

:blink: Maybe jane520linas was copy & pasting whilst reading this thread and accidently pasted his bibliograhpy in by mistake :eusa_think:

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Mosley added: "One possibility is that all the teams agree that it is illegal, and therefore all the teams shouldn't have it from Barcelona. But then those teams who say it is legal will say 'Why should we do that?' And those that say it's illegal will say 'Why should we lose an advantage for four races?'

I cannot agree with Max about the first possibility. Why should the teams who inturpreted the rules to their advantage have that advantage taken away because their competitors failed to. Is this Formula One or Playschool????

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Well done the teams for finding loop holes and gaining an advantage. Ferrari have done it for years and are very good at it, to me its not cheating, its just thinking outside of the box and gaining an advantage where other teams dont think to develop. The rules are the same for everybody so there isnt a rule for the others to go and copy them.

No wonder why Brawn GP and Toyota look good in testing...

My God! A sane man at last!

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What. The. ****.

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Are we being spammed?

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I cannot agree with Max about the first possibility. Why should the teams who inturpreted the rules to their advantage have that advantage taken away because their competitors failed to. Is this Formula One or Playschool????

I totally agree, 100%.

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Since the senile dwarf has already plumped for Jenson this season, I'd think the FIA + stewards will be taking a more friendly approach to the diffusers. Bernie knows that Brawn GP helped keep his grid at 20 cars and even if he hasn't invested directly, he's still got a vested interest in them doing well.

It's in the interest of F1 that some teams other than McLaren, Ferrari & BMW get a sniff this year.

I'm guessing that the stewards and the FIA will be steering this season as much as they can to the small players advantage. At least until McLaren and Ferrari make enough of a stink about it. As with last season, we'll see steward decisions engineered towards an all decisive last race.

Personally I reckon if the diffusers are within the rules then fair enough. Can't blame (or punish) BGP, Williams & Toyota for FIA's incompetance in writing up their own rules. I think it would be more unfair to dock these teams points, places or grid spots for their clever thinking than to tell the other teams to smarten up.

But then again, what I think doesn't really matter. All depend what Bernie and Max tell the stewards to do in Australia.

I don't think the FIA and stewards are particularily friendly on race day - helpful, certainly - friendly, I've yet to see it.

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This information is obtained from the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Albany. Mario Lepore Jr. 224 Route 151, Luther Road, wow gold, East Greenbush 12061 Nature of Business: Repair man Total liabilities: $81,908 Total assets: $95,820 Chapter: 13 Attorney: Michael J. O'Connor Index No.: 96-11249 Brian J. Secovnie doing business as Treatz Eatery and Anna M. Secovnie 1165 Route 9J, Stuyvesant 12173, and Route 9H, Kinderhook 12106 Nature of Business: Retail fast food/ice cream Total liabilities: $349,166.27 Total assets: $92,760 Chapter: 7 Attorney: E. Lisa Tang Index No.: 96-11246 Steven F. Dupra doing business as Just Hair 86 Edgewood Ave., Albany 12203, and 1080 Madison Ave., Albany 12208 Nature of Business: Hair salon Total liabilities: $67,039 Total assets: $4,025 Chapter: 7 Attorney: Stewart M. Finton Index No.: 96-11245 Nickolay A. Fedorow and Marie A.wow power leveling, Fedorow also known as Marie A. Smith and Marie Ostrom doing business as Regal Thunder Farm RR 1, Box 18-A, Coxsackie 12051 Nature of Business: Regal Thunder Farm Total liabilities: $125,272 Total assets: $100,213.17 Chapter: 13 Attorney: Martin J. Goodman Index No.: 96-11239 Ronald C. Bartlett and Marie A.Bartlett doing business as Jomar Kitchens and Windows 2021 Foster Ave., Schenectady 12308 Nature of Business: Kitchen remodeling Total liabilities: $102,459.34 Total assets: $44,545 Chapter: 7 Attorney: Richard H. Weiskopf Index No.: 96-11273 R. Pusatere Inc.wow gold, 21 Adams St., Troy 12180 Nature of Business: Retail/wholesale food distributor Total liabilities: $100,000 - $499,000 (est.) Total assets: Under $50,000 (est.) Chapter: 7 Attorney: John D. Rodgers/Robert J. Rock Index No.: 96-11278 Best Bagels and Deli Inc. 1 Knauf Lane, Loudonville 12211 Nature of Business: Retail/wholesale business Total liabilities: $53,119.52 Total assets: $0 Chapter: 7 Attorney: Linda A. Mandel Clemente Index No.: 96-11295 Rosati's wow gold, Auto and Home Center Inc. Route 29W, Greenwich 12834 Nature of Business: Other business Total liabilities: $125,139 Total assets: $0 Chapter: 7 Attorney: Michael J. O'Connor Index No.: 96-11300

This information is obtained from various county clerks' offices. Albany County Richard C. Loucks doing business as K & S Construction, 13 Locust Drive, Delanson 12053 Rafique Ahmed Bhatty doing business as R & A Grocery, 267 Central Ave.archlord gold, Albany 12206 Justin J. Rice doing business as Medium, 12 Henry Johnson Blvd., Albany 12210 Venita Martindale doing business as Adorable Wig Attitudes, 70 Central Ave., Albany 12206 Thomas P. Martin doing business as General Home Service, 32 Fern Ave., Albany 12205 John J. DeStefano doing business as Impact Media Publishing, 2418 Ninth Ave., Watervliet 12189 Robert L. Rauch Jr. doing business as Capital Lawn Care, 32 Pulver Ave., Ravena 12143 Ali Dalkilic doing business as Silk Road Imports, 260 Lark St., Albany 12210 Wayne J. Marotta doing business as Okinawan Vechi Ryu Karate, 3356 Carman Road, Schenectady 12303 Diane I. Magee doing business as Molly & Moe, 52 McCormack Road, Slingerlands 12159 Rensselaer County Charles F. Morine doing business as Morine's Tree Service, 463 Third Ave.wotlk gold, Troy 12180 Karl F. Zessin doing business as Karl's Komputer Service, 2190 Buskirk/West Hoosick Road, Buskirk 12028 Richard G. Stewart doing business as Stewart Co., 13 Fletcher Place, West Sand Lake 12196 Patrick H. Madigan doing business as Patrick Madigan, Mineral Springs Lawn and Landscape, 219 Mineral Springs Road, Melrose 12121 Kenneth D. Duncan doing business as People's Choice Home Improvements, 481 McChesney Ave. Ext., Troy 12180 Robert Erik Hug doing business as Erik's Floor Covering, 63 14th St., Troy 12180 John P. Rossello doing business as John Rossello's Resale, 65 Phillips Road, Rensselaer 12144 Lee Allen Schipper doing business as Schipper Software Design, 128 Cranberry Pond Road, Cropseyville 12052 Nathan L. Bink doing business as Nathan Bink Contracting, 805 Master St., Johnsonville 12094 Christopher E. O'Grady doing business as Garrett's A to Z Landscaping, 1634 Third St., Rensselaer 12144 Mark A. Girardi doing business as MG Distributors, 283 Sixth Ave., Troy 12182 Brendan Michael Gallivan doing business as Gallivan Lawn Service, 155 Deepkill Road, Troy 12182 Wendy Lavigne doing business as Wendycare!, 340 Chamberlain Hill Road, West Sand Lake 12196 Charles T. Pusatere doing business as Valley Warehouse, Adams and First streets, Troy 12180

Herman A. Nied doing business as Advanced Manufacturing Technology Associates (AMTA), 13 Shadow Wood Way, Ballston Lake 12019 Tamara J. Berry doing business as Berry Interiors, 17 Berkshire Drive West, Clifton Park 12065 Mary L. Passaretti and Fil L. Fina III doing business as Passaretti & Fina, P.O. Box 413, Saratoga Springs 12866 Anuar J. Dominguez doing business as Anuar Dominguez, 43 Grant Hill Court, Clifton Park 12065 George M. Yasenchak doing business as International Facility Engineering Co., 376 Broadway, Suite 11, Saratoga Springs 12866 Gregory Schultz doing business as Country Town Gifts, 4 Hawthorn Court, Clifton Park 12065 Daniel A. Rod#ck doing business as Daniel A. Rod#ck, 8 Limerick Lane, Ballston Spa 12020 M. Bridgette Frankow doing business as Images In Advertising, 31 Grace St., Waterford 12188 Todd M. Matchett doing business as Clifton Park Maintenance and Refrigeration, Pine Ridge II, Apt. 115, Clifton Park 12065 Andrea Staiano doing business as Andrea's Cleaning Service, wow gold, 3 Chateau Drive, Clifton Park 12065 Teresa M. Grant doing business as Pampered Panda's, 77 Lakeside Drive, Mechanicville 12118 Richard N. Cooper doing business as R. Cooper Paving & Contracting, Lot 25, Brookview Trailer Park, Greenfield Center 12833 John D. DeVries doing business as Dramatic Pawz Tattoos, 3231 Birchton Road, Ballston Spa 12020 Timothy J. Green and Patricia Ann Green doing business as Green Enterprises, Engine Repair/Sewing, 70 Pyramid Pines, Saratoga Springs 12866 Mary Ann Fucilli doing business as Fitness Masters, Kmart Plaza, Route 50, Saratoga Springs 12866 Janet M. Longe doing business as Accent Design & Consulting, 22 Sand Spurrey Road, Ballston Spa 12020 Eric J. Kosek doing business as Empire Bonded Janatorial, P.O. Box 267, Clifton Park 12065 Gary R. McCollum doing business as Professional Insider, 233 Brookwood Road, Waterford 12188 Robert N. Baia doing business as Baia's Two Restaurant, Route 67, Amsterdam Road, Ballston Spa 12020 Raymond E. Callahan doing business as Raymond E. Callahan Used Cars, 4620 Route 9 North, Corinth 12822 Bernard D. Granger doing business as New York Driver Safety Program, 35 Hills Road, Malta 12019 Jeanine Marie Flinton doing business as Cradle to Casket Woodworks, 2120 [Michael J.] Alexander Road, Galway 12074. Margaret C. Lawrence doing business as Peg's Timeless Treasures, 8 Ashley Drive, Ballston Lake 12019

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Does any letter & number in this post make any f**king reference to F1?? Stupid spambots!

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This information is obtained from the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Albany. Mario Lepore Jr. 224 Route 151, Luther Road, wow gold, East Greenbush 12061 Nature of Business: Repair man Total liabilities: $81,908 Total assets: $95,820 Chapter: 13 Attorney: Michael J. O'Connor Index No.: 96-11249 Brian J. Secovnie doing business as Treatz Eatery and Anna M. Secovnie 1165 Route 9J, Stuyvesant 12173, and Route 9H, Kinderhook 12106 Nature of Business: Retail fast food/ice cream Total liabilities: $349,166.27 Total assets: $92,760 Chapter: 7 Attorney: E. Lisa Tang Index No.: 96-11246 Steven F. Dupra doing business as Just Hair 86 Edgewood Ave., Albany 12203, and 1080 Madison Ave., Albany 12208 Nature of Business: Hair salon Total liabilities: $67,039 Total assets: $4,025 Chapter: 7 Attorney: Stewart M. Finton Index No.: 96-11245 Nickolay A. Fedorow and Marie A.wow power leveling, Fedorow also known as Marie A. Smith and Marie Ostrom doing business as Regal Thunder Farm RR 1, Box 18-A, Coxsackie 12051 Nature of Business: Regal Thunder Farm Total liabilities: $125,272 Total assets: $100,213.17 Chapter: 13 Attorney: Martin J. Goodman Index No.: 96-11239 Ronald C. Bartlett and Marie A.Bartlett doing business as Jomar Kitchens and Windows 2021 Foster Ave., Schenectady 12308 Nature of Business: Kitchen remodeling Total liabilities: $102,459.34 Total assets: $44,545 Chapter: 7 Attorney: Richard H. Weiskopf Index No.: 96-11273 R. Pusatere Inc.wow gold, 21 Adams St., Troy 12180 Nature of Business: Retail/wholesale food distributor Total liabilities: $100,000 - $499,000 (est.) Total assets: Under $50,000 (est.) Chapter: 7 Attorney: John D. Rodgers/Robert J. Rock Index No.: 96-11278 Best Bagels and Deli Inc. 1 Knauf Lane, Loudonville 12211 Nature of Business: Retail/wholesale business Total liabilities: $53,119.52 Total assets: $0 Chapter: 7 Attorney: Linda A. Mandel Clemente Index No.: 96-11295 Rosati's wow gold, Auto and Home Center Inc. Route 29W, Greenwich 12834 Nature of Business: Other business Total liabilities: $125,139 Total assets: $0 Chapter: 7 Attorney: Michael J. O'Connor Index No.: 96-11300

This information is obtained from various county clerks' offices. Albany County Richard C. Loucks doing business as K & S Construction, 13 Locust Drive, Delanson 12053 Rafique Ahmed Bhatty doing business as R & A Grocery, 267 Central Ave.archlord gold, Albany 12206 Justin J. Rice doing business as Medium, 12 Henry Johnson Blvd., Albany 12210 Venita Martindale doing business as Adorable Wig Attitudes, 70 Central Ave., Albany 12206 Thomas P. Martin doing business as General Home Service, 32 Fern Ave., Albany 12205 John J. DeStefano doing business as Impact Media Publishing, 2418 Ninth Ave., Watervliet 12189 Robert L. Rauch Jr. doing business as Capital Lawn Care, 32 Pulver Ave., Ravena 12143 Ali Dalkilic doing business as Silk Road Imports, 260 Lark St., Albany 12210 Wayne J. Marotta doing business as Okinawan Vechi Ryu Karate, 3356 Carman Road, Schenectady 12303 Diane I. Magee doing business as Molly & Moe, 52 McCormack Road, Slingerlands 12159 Rensselaer County Charles F. Morine doing business as Morine's Tree Service, 463 Third Ave.wotlk gold, Troy 12180 Karl F. Zessin doing business as Karl's Komputer Service, 2190 Buskirk/West Hoosick Road, Buskirk 12028 Richard G. Stewart doing business as Stewart Co., 13 Fletcher Place, West Sand Lake 12196 Patrick H. Madigan doing business as Patrick Madigan, Mineral Springs Lawn and Landscape, 219 Mineral Springs Road, Melrose 12121 Kenneth D. Duncan doing business as People's Choice Home Improvements, 481 McChesney Ave. Ext., Troy 12180 Robert Erik Hug doing business as Erik's Floor Covering, 63 14th St., Troy 12180 John P. Rossello doing business as John Rossello's Resale, 65 Phillips Road, Rensselaer 12144 Lee Allen Schipper doing business as Schipper Software Design, 128 Cranberry Pond Road, Cropseyville 12052 Nathan L. Bink doing business as Nathan Bink Contracting, 805 Master St., Johnsonville 12094 Christopher E. O'Grady doing business as Garrett's A to Z Landscaping, 1634 Third St., Rensselaer 12144 Mark A. Girardi doing business as MG Distributors, 283 Sixth Ave., Troy 12182 Brendan Michael Gallivan doing business as Gallivan Lawn Service, 155 Deepkill Road, Troy 12182 Wendy Lavigne doing business as Wendycare!, 340 Chamberlain Hill Road, West Sand Lake 12196 Charles T. Pusatere doing business as Valley Warehouse, Adams and First streets, Troy 12180

Herman A. Nied doing business as Advanced Manufacturing Technology Associates (AMTA), 13 Shadow Wood Way, Ballston Lake 12019 Tamara J. Berry doing business as Berry Interiors, 17 Berkshire Drive West, Clifton Park 12065 Mary L. Passaretti and Fil L. Fina III doing business as Passaretti & Fina, P.O. Box 413, Saratoga Springs 12866 Anuar J. Dominguez doing business as Anuar Dominguez, 43 Grant Hill Court, Clifton Park 12065 George M. Yasenchak doing business as International Facility Engineering Co., 376 Broadway, Suite 11, Saratoga Springs 12866 Gregory Schultz doing business as Country Town Gifts, 4 Hawthorn Court, Clifton Park 12065 Daniel A. Rod#ck doing business as Daniel A. Rod#ck, 8 Limerick Lane, Ballston Spa 12020 M. Bridgette Frankow doing business as Images In Advertising, 31 Grace St., Waterford 12188 Todd M. Matchett doing business as Clifton Park Maintenance and Refrigeration, Pine Ridge II, Apt. 115, Clifton Park 12065 Andrea Staiano doing business as Andrea's Cleaning Service, wow gold, 3 Chateau Drive, Clifton Park 12065 Teresa M. Grant doing business as Pampered Panda's, 77 Lakeside Drive, Mechanicville 12118 Richard N. Cooper doing business as R. Cooper Paving & Contracting, Lot 25, Brookview Trailer Park, Greenfield Center 12833 John D. DeVries doing business as Dramatic Pawz Tattoos, 3231 Birchton Road, Ballston Spa 12020 Timothy J. Green and Patricia Ann Green doing business as Green Enterprises, Engine Repair/Sewing, 70 Pyramid Pines, Saratoga Springs 12866 Mary Ann Fucilli doing business as Fitness Masters, Kmart Plaza, Route 50, Saratoga Springs 12866 Janet M. Longe doing business as Accent Design & Consulting, 22 Sand Spurrey Road, Ballston Spa 12020 Eric J. Kosek doing business as Empire Bonded Janatorial, P.O. Box 267, Clifton Park 12065 Gary R. McCollum doing business as Professional Insider, 233 Brookwood Road, Waterford 12188 Robert N. Baia doing business as Baia's Two Restaurant, Route 67, Amsterdam Road, Ballston Spa 12020 Raymond E. Callahan doing business as Raymond E. Callahan Used Cars, 4620 Route 9 North, Corinth 12822 Bernard D. Granger doing business as New York Driver Safety Program, 35 Hills Road, Malta 12019 Jeanine Marie Flinton doing business as Cradle to Casket Woodworks, 2120 [Michael J.] Alexander Road, Galway 12074. Margaret C. Lawrence doing business as Peg's Timeless Treasures, 8 Ashley Drive, Ballston Lake 12019

FOR THE RECORD

Kill him. Please, Kill him.

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Does anyone know the specifics of those diffusers that are being called into question?

I heard something in regards to their height being outside the rules...

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