HandyNZL 1 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Regular, cola or sugar free?? Regular. With real sugar. None of that cyanide forming nutrasweet stuff. We don't get the cola here (yet)....but no doubt, just a matter of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yurp 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 I still don't get the Ferrari-mania, maybe I've just got old and cynical For me, it would be a shame if they left but I really don't see how one team can have such a hold, especially when they don't have the best drivers, management or the best cars. OK, so during the Schui era they had all three, but before and since - hmmmm I would not shed a tear if they left, not because I hate them, I don't. I just don't see what the big deal is. They're just another team. History? Ah Schmistory! I don't like that Ferrari have secret vetos and get paid more than the others - this gives them an unfair advantage. I do like the idea of more teams on the grid. I like the idea of freedom to innovate. F1 in its current form is unsustainable and it is only a matter of time before one of more manufacturers leave which makes a mockery of the grid. So whilst the FIA are still a bunch of @ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Manufacturers come, manufacturers go. I won't miss them. All they bring is profligacy. I don't mind the current proposals at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaster 7 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 The fact the current proposals and the way they were brought about is driving away a team like Ferrari, whose commitment to Formula One is unmatched, is the real issue here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 I think this is more to do with governance and a fair slice of the pie. The only major thing that's wrong with the proposals is the way they are being implemented (ie bulldozed), not what they contain, I say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikathegreat2 2 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Regular. With real sugar. None of that cyanide forming nutrasweet stuff.We don't get the cola here (yet)....but no doubt, just a matter of time. Cola is nice, very overpriced tho! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 And banned in several countries........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wapi 4 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 And banned in several countries........ I know only for Germany. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grabthaw the Hammerslayer 4 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Agree with everything apart from the redI'm sorry, but I don't think the current proposals will make F1 better at all Ah if you read what I wrote: I said "the end result of this process" not "the current proposals". Max has done has done his usual bull-at-a-gate thing and the end result is inevitable - Max will back down a bit and the teams will end up supporting modified proposals. The end result has to be better - less spending, more teams, more technical freedom, more money for the teams, change in governance. How they get there - ah yes, now that is another question entirely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 I couldn't care less if the manufacturers leave. Good riddance to them.In fact I'm quite surprised that so many people who claim to miss "real" racing are complaining about the possible departure of the most corporate and cynical group of people in F1. All the car companies do is provide the money, most of which is totally unnecessary. The people who count- the designers, strategists, team principles etc- will just be sucked up by other teams. If that means the cars aren't colored red/silver/hideousorangeandyellow then so what. We might even get a few less races decided by court decisions. You'll all watch as well. It's just your signature will be different given your new allegiance. Given the economy I'd guess something like: BLAIN & PROSSER BANKRUPTY AND INSOLVENCY FIRM GP 4 EVA!!!!!!!! Yup. Always ridiculous how people put their faith in the manufacturers due to their blind hatred for Mosley and Bernie. Doesn't anyone remember the GPWC farce? It's the same all over again, except Ferrari is on the other side, so there might be more compromises extracted. There isn't going to be an alternative manufacturer run series. Ever. Thank heavens for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Todt 4 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Cola is nice, very overpriced tho! You mean the Redbull cola? Its cheaper here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites