The Cosworth Cup ?

[PeakRPM 0]

Hey...

Firstly - Go Webber.

We all know that there will be a FiA Formula 1 World Championship next year and it'll work itself out.

But...

I was thinking, what would people think of another Championship running within the current one concurrently. Something like a Championship called the "Cosworth Cup".

You can have the championship run as is.

WDC-Open to All

WCC-Open to All

CC-Open to All who decide to run a Cosworth Spec Engine - Made to same spec and rules of everyone elses.

CC Car wins the race, takes points for all three classes.

This retains the history and prestiage of the F1 World Championship, and at the same time, introduces "best of the rest" Championship. The budget cap is obviously forgotten about, with the CC Cars saving money on a one make engine between 4 or 5 teams.

The only changes would be a extra Points Table

[yurp 0]

so why not have a mercedes cup?

why not have a cup for drivers wearing blue helmets?

i'd like a cup for drivers with "k" in their name

sorry - i'm being sarcastic, but you get my point.

[PeakRPM 0]

Your point is noted.

Using a common engine and running at the back of the pack provides no incentive. Racing to "make up the numbers" isn't fun. And as history has shown, teams that fit into this class don't last all that long.

Giving them an incentive can only be good for the sport. It also adresses a common problem amongst some teams - $$$$$

The larger, higher spending teams will still have the ultimate prize to fight for, as do the teams that elect to select the common engine.

Its obvious that a team able to produce a engine to suit it own chassis and own personal needs should be in theory faster then a car made to incorporate a common (between 4 or 5 teams) engine. Even if the overall rule the engine is made too is the same for everyone... Common and Works Engines.

The concept of the common engine beating a Works engine would just be similar to Red Bull beating Renault.

You could even add a common Chassis.

The critical could be addressed.

Cost Cutting for Smaller Teams

Use Common Chassis & Engine - Score Points in Internal Championship + Major Championships

-Fixed Upgrades from the makers for all teams

-Costs Shared

Larger Teams

Custom Spec Chassis & Engine - Fighting for the Major Championship

-Development more rapid

-Self Funded

It obvious that a team like Williams would do well in this sort of environment. Having a incentive championship in the name of cost cutting, without losing sight of the ultimate goal. Williams can afford to keep racing. If they want, nothing stops them from leaving the incentive championship and pairing up with someone like Honda to exclusive contest the major championship.

Ferrari would for example still be able to produce their own s##t and fight for the major championship... Their branding and history is intact.

[yurp 0]

if the spec teams have to spend a tenth of the money on developing a competitive car compared to the custom teams how is that fair? they'd have an unfair advantage in the WCC - it wouldn't be a level playing field.

on the other hand, if you're saying their car won't be competitive enough to threaten the custom teams for the WCC, then we're back to just making up the numbers.

can't have your cake and eat it.

EDIT - this is the problem with any 2 tier system when they're fighting for the same championship (in this case the proper WCC) - however fair you try to make it, you'll end up shafting one side. That's why the teams spat their dummies when Max dare suggest the idea.

[mikathegreat2 2]

In FIA GT3, they have manufacturers cups for teams with certain cars, e.g. Ferrari, Porsche but only for at least 2 teams to compete with that car as there's other teams being the only team with that car e.g. Lamborghini, Morgan.

[HandyNZL 1]

Yeah...C Cups are quite nice. A bit better than a B Cup. Personally also better than a D Cup. But, hey, thats only personal preference.