BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 I think that swearing at a baby is very wrong. It made me do an extra big gooey poo and made me cry lots more than normal. My dad was laughing which I thought was strange. He said something about 'your buttons' and 'pushing them', or something. I'm too young, please excuse me. Waaaaaaah, plop. You're cool dude, just don't get so over the top Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna's Ghost 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 It's a big blow for F1 racing if Bob is not on the grid in 2011. He sounds like he's suffered some horrible injuries in the crash and from what I've read he already has titanium bolts and pins in his arm from a previous accident, although I can't remember if its the same arm. I can't see him being back in the car for a while. Next topic is who is going to stand in for Kubica? Bruno or Romain or A N Other? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 Next topic is who is going to stand in for Kubica? Bruno or Romain or A N Other? the hulk? would like Kimi in the seat, as he's the only one to challenge Hamilton, Button, Vettel, Alonso or Schumacher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bambino 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 Anyway, this thread is about Bob K, not you, so if you want to continue this bullsh*t elsewhere, feel free to PM me. /quote] That sounds nice, but my Daddy told me not to talk to strangers. Plus, all my baby sitters have to be adults, not children. Robert Kubica is a great guy and a fine driver. I hope he recovers to a normal life, as a first priority. Anything over and above that would be a bonus for us all. Renault now need to secure Raikkonen. If not, then Hulkenburg looks like a good second best, in my infantile opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna's Ghost 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 the hulk? would like Kimi in the seat, as he's the only one to challenge Hamilton, Button, Vettel, Alonso or Schumacher. No surprise that Kimi gets your vote. I don't think he'd be interested though. Hulkenberg got a contract with Force India, would they be willing to release him from that? I think we're all agreed that Bruno or Romain cannot be the one selected to partner Petrov if Kubica is out for the season. The team will need a lead driver of sorts, but they're a bit thin on the ground. It'll be a real shame if the Renault Lotus turns out to be a competitive car. Edit because of brain fade and inaccurate info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 No surprise that Kimi gets your vote. I don't think he'd be interested though. Hulkenberg got a contract with Force India, would they be willing to release him from that? I think we're all agreed that Bruno or Romain cannot be the one selected to partner Petrov if Kubica is out for the season. The team will need a lead driver of sorts, but they're a bit thin on the ground. It'll be a real shame if the Renault Lotus turns out to be a competitive car. Edit because of brain fade and inaccurate info. yea agreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 I doubt very much that we'll ever see RK in F1 again. Other forms of motorsport maybe. Remember Sandro Nannini. Robert Kubica is a great guy and a fine driver. I hope he recovers to a normal life, as a first priority. Anything over and above that would be a bonus for us all. Renault now need to secure Raikkonen. If not, then Hulkenburg looks like a good second best, in my infantile opinion. Indeed, except that I suspect Kimi would rather stick pins in his eyes.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna's Ghost 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 I doubt very much that we'll ever see RK in F1 again. Other forms of motorsport maybe. Remember Sandro Nannini. I thought of Nannini when I heard the news yesterday, although I think Kubica is a better driver than Nannini. Kubica certainly doesn't smoke like a chimney and get into the car completely wired on espresso. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHS 1 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 Latest update from AUTOSPORT: Robert Kubica was put into an induced coma last night in a bid to help his recovery from the serious injuries he suffered in a rally crash on Sunday. The Renault driver was left with multiple fractures to his right arm and leg, plus severe cuts to his forearm, after crashing out of the Ronde di Andora rally. It is understood the injuries were caused by a length of crash barrier penetrating the c#ckpit of his Skoda Fabia and striking him. Kubica underwent a seven-hour operation throughout Sunday afternoon at the Santa Corona Hospital in Pietra Ligure to try and save the use of his right hand - and he is said to be in a 'stable but serious' condition. Doctors also put him into an induced coma, but he could be woken up from it sometime on Monday morning depending on his progress through the night. Renault team-mate Vitaly Petrov and his boss Eric Boullier are scheduled to visit the hospital today to get an update on Kubica's conditions. "The news of Robert's accident came as a real shock to the whole team," said Boullier. "All of us, at Lotus Renault GP, wish him a quick recovery. "We have been really impressed with the way the doctors looked after him and we would like to thank the whole team of the Santa Corona Hospital for their professional approach and dedication. "I will be travelling to Italy, along with Vitaly Petrov, in order to see Robert and tell him that we are impatiently waiting for his return." Professor Mario Igor Rossello, the hand specialist who worked on Kubica, said he was encouraged by how the operation had gone but admitted it was too early to say how well the driver would recover. "It has been a very important and difficult operation," he said. "Robert Kubica's right forearm was cut in two places, with significant lesions to the bones and the tendons. We did our best to rebuild the functions of the forearm. "It took seven doctors, split into two teams and a total of seven hours to complete the operation. One team was the emergency task force from the hospital of San Paolo (Savona) that is normally appointed to treat this sort of injury, while the other team came from the orthopaedic department of the Santa Corona Hospital (Pietra Ligure). "At the end of the operation, Robert's hand was well vascularised and warm, which is encouraging. Following the surgery, Robert Kubica will remain under permanent monitoring overnight because his condition remains serious." Renault has said that a further statement will be made on Monday morning by Professor Rossello and Kubica's manager Daniel Morelli. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bambino 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 Indeed, except that I suspect Kimi would rather stick pins in his eyes.. That's a bit harsh. He's got enough on his plate without having Kimi come to visit him in hospital.....oh, hang on, I see what you meant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LabradoRacer 2 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 That's a bit harsh. He's got enough on his plate without having Kimi come to visit him in hospital..... That reminds me - Petrov will no longer say that Kubica's a closed person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 Ok, yesterday I was so furious I didn't even want to talk about all this. 1) Damn you, Bob, you just left F1 and Renault without the only truly different driver in years. I won't forgive you for this! 2) On the other hand, the guy gambled and lost. And could'nt avoid gambling because he is not a businessman in a flame proof suit but a racer at heart. And that is what makes him different and I bet when he recovers he will not be sorry the least. In that sense, he is a driver as they used to build them in the past. 3) Hand functionality would not be of much concern in the long term if he recovers enough. Controls can be remapped for him. They reconfigure all the controls every year for every car with all these gadgets lately so they are used to having important changes in driving style incorporated fast. (Except Lewis which seems to take a while to realize that there's no windshield wiper button and that he is hitting repeatedly the pitstop call button...making the pitcrew at McLaren move in and out of the garage every two seconds) 4) Damn you Robert, you crazy b#####d! 5) Bruno or Romain? Nick Heidfeld. 6) Please, please, oh heavens, please! Don't let Kimi push Kubica's wheelchair if he ever goes visit him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna's Ghost 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 5) Bruno or Romain? Nick Heidfeld. Yeah. Good call. I'd take Quick Nick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopite Girl 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 James, thank you for all the reports. Very much appreciated. And I'm sure everyone else is too. Good to hear his hand was well vascularised and warm, an excellent sign. I have the utmost respect for these doctors, they're brilliance saved his life. Its truly wonderful how medical science has progressed and the things that doctors are able to do is amazing beyond belief. I genuinely believe that Robert is a true blood racing driver and he'll pull through this and get to what he loves doing. Even if there is complications, he'll race again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caesar 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 Yeah. Good call. I'd take Quick Nick. news on kubica are better minute to minute, so that is fantastic sign, we will see robert again in F1 driver seat, but probably not this year. if his hand fully recovers his spirit will bring him back in F1. about Slow Nick !?!? I would rather risk with Petrov's blind cousin from Siberia than give Nick a seat... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bambino 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 Nick is not dynamic enough. Renault clearly have a car under them (although Bob's time was on the last day of testing when RB and Ferrari had buggered off home and there was lots of rubber down - so I take it with a pinch of salt). They need a racer to rag its nuts off. Whoever has his seat will never create the headlines that Bob did on that final day and people will always say how much better it would have been in his hands. The only way to benchmark the car and that test time will be to put it in the hands of someone uber capable. Not a has been or a nearly man but someone who got bored and gave up but relishes a challenge and can deliver. The only one fitting the bill is Kimi. He should be persued at all costs if Renault want a charger. So my dad says, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopite Girl 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 Reports on F1.com say Kubica is awake, speaking to relatives and moving his fingers. Doctors keeping close observation of a possible infection in right arm. Moving his fingers. Great news, baby! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 Nick is not dynamic enough. Renault clearly have a car under them (although Bob's time was on the last day of testing when RB and Ferrari had buggered off home and there was lots of rubber down - so I take it with a pinch of salt). They need a racer to rag its nuts off. Whoever has his seat will never create the headlines that Bob did on that final day and people will always say how much better it would have been in his hands. The only way to benchmark the car and that test time will be to put it in the hands of someone uber capable. Not a has been or a nearly man but someone who got bored and gave up but relishes a challenge and can deliver. The only one fitting the bill is Kimi. He should be persued at all costs if Renault want a charger. So my dad says, anyway. I thought about Nick (not my favorite driver by any means) thinking about damage limitation. Nick can at least assure them some points, good handling and extracting 100% out of the car, at the price of never having a guy that can push past that one hundred mark like Kubica did, but hey, he'll do that for a minimum wage! Quick Nick also has the added advantage (something increasingly important in nowadays F1) of being a technically savvy driver, to help them keep in the hunt trhough the many successive evolutions the car will need to reach end of season without becoming "those black and gold cars battling with the Virgins" Kimi? Only if we get the motivated Kimi. That guy could win a championship if the car is actually that good. The non-commital version would be too expensive for a guy that can only assure them some lap records and, maybe the odd podium and win. In short, both are good options. One is riskier than the other. Kimi can bring a WCC contender to a WDC. Nick can take the car through the whole season guaranteed without losing much face. None is Kubica, sadly. P.S.: Why am I discussing this with a baby? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bambino 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 P.S.: Why am I discussing this with a baby? Search your soul, friend. You'll find the bald truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AleHop 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 The only good substitute for Kubica would be Raikkonen. Worse, what if that car is really championship material and he could've won the championship this year... Who's going to show if the car is that good? Robert Kubica is a great guy and a fine driver. I hope he recovers to a normal life, as a first priority. Anything over and above that would be a bonus for us all. Renault now need to secure Raikkonen. If not, then Hulkenburg looks like a good second best, in my infantile opinion. I appreciate your opinion. Nick is not dynamic enough. Renault clearly have a car under them (although Bob's time was on the last day of testing when RB and Ferrari had buggered off home and there was lots of rubber down - so I take it with a pinch of salt). They need a racer to rag its nuts off. Whoever has his seat will never create the headlines that Bob did on that final day and people will always say how much better it would have been in his hands. The only way to benchmark the car and that test time will be to put it in the hands of someone uber capable. Not a has been or a nearly man but someone who got bored and gave up but relishes a challenge and can deliver. The only one fitting the bill is Kimi. He should be persued at all costs if Renault want a charger. So my dad says, anyway. In any case, I will miss RK no matter who gets his seat. Get well soon, Robert. All the best for him and his family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ikyrotz 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 1) Damn you, Bob, you just left F1 and Renault without the only truly different driver in years. I won't forgive you for this! 2) On the other hand, the guy gambled and lost. And could'nt avoid gambling because he is not a businessman in a flame proof suit but a racer at heart. And that is what makes him different and I bet when he recovers he will not be sorry the least. In that sense, he is a driver as they used to build them in the past. 3) Hand functionality would not be of much concern in the long term if he recovers enough. Controls can be remapped for him. They reconfigure all the controls every year for every car with all these gadgets lately so they are used to having important changes in driving style incorporated fast. (Except Lewis which seems to take a while to realize that there's no windshield wiper button and that he is hitting repeatedly the pitstop call button...making the pitcrew at McLaren move in and out of the garage every two seconds) 4) Damn you Robert, you crazy b#####d! Couldn't have put it any better myself. Kubica was my clear favorite since Kimi left, and I was really looking forward to this season as it looks like Renault is getting better. 6) Please, please, oh heavens, please! Don't let Kimi push Kubica's wheelchair if he ever goes visit him! Lol. Maybe they'll go rallying together once Robert is all better and exchange experiences on rolling the car Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freaky2 1 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 The only good substitute for Kubica would be Raikkonen. In any case, I will miss RK no matter who gets his seat. Get well soon, Robert. All the best for him and his family. I agree. And I hink we'll all miss him >.< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 Kimi is the only spectacular replacement for Kubica and if he wants to do it, if I were Renault I'd have to consider whether I had the budget for him. He's exciting and will certainly do a far better job than Nick... but if he's going to take up half the technical budget, maybe it's not worth it for a team that's still rebuilding. Then again, it could be if he has a few spectacular drives that gain sponsorship and prize money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yurp 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 Sh#t - been off the interwebs for the past 3 weeks. bummer. wishing the nosed one a quick recovery and hope to see him back in F1 asap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yurp 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 double post - others might point to my obvious stupidity, but I'm blaming the crappy connection in this hotel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
