BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Ferrari simply can't afford to fail yet again this year, but the noises coming from motorsport enthusiasts, pundits, and even to some degree the team itself aren't all that convincing. Something simply doesn't seem right in their camp. The car definately has speed, as proven by Alonso, it's just difficult to drive... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Tell you what... That Lotus is looking really good, both on short stints this morning and now on it's longer runs.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15:15 Alonso seems to get five or six good laps out of a set of softs before the pace drops away, but Grosjean's hold up a little longer. lovely stuff!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15:55 Stint one was 11 laps on soft tyres, mostly in mid-1m30s, with a few 1m31s. Stint two was 13 laps on softs, almost all in mid 1m29s before a few mid 1m30s at the end. Stint three was 10 laps on softs, mostly in low 1m28s, with a handful of mid 1m29s at the end. Then he finished up with 25 laps on hards, mainly in mid 1m27s, before eventually trailing off to mid/high 1m28s. Loses about a second or so like the RB... 15:58 The drop-off across a stint does seem more severe for the Ferrari than for Grosjean's Lotus on its comparable run. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16:13 Alonso's race simulation/very long run is over, here's how it looked: 16:15 Stint one was nine laps on mediums, consistently in 1m30s with a few 1m31s. Stint two was eight laps on softs, starting in low 1m29s, then going up to mid 1m30s before a single 1m32s. Stint three was 12 laps on softs, going up from low 1m28s to mid 1m31s. Stint four was 14 laps on mediums, going from mid 1m27s to mid 1m29s. Stint five was 14 laps on mediums again, from mid 1m24s to high 1m26s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caesar 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 AutoSprint & F1Today.nl confirms Ferrari's race sim conducted on USED tyres. Lotus was on new tyres Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caesar 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 4 makes you a legend! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AleHop 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 RB will bring a new configuration tomorrow and they asked to use #2chassis. The rest of the teams agreed ok. JFFS!!! They should say NO WAY, making it easier for RB? BAH!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Thanks for that invalueble info Ceasar... but not ALL done on new tyres by Grosjean... Fastest laptimes for today: Grosjean's time done on softs with Vergne on super-softs, both look like qualifying runs 1 Grosjean Lotus 1m22.614s 122 2 Vergne Toro Rosso 1m23.126s +0.512 31 3 Vettel Red Bull 1m23.361s +0.747 85 4 Alonso Ferrari 1m23.447s +0.833 123 5 Kovalainen Caterham 1m23.828s +1.214 104 6 Kobayashi Sauber 1m23.836s +1.222 76 7 Hulkenberg Force India 1m23.893s +1.279 33 8 Schumacher Mercedes 1m23.978s +1.364 77 9 Hamilton McLaren 1m24.111s +1.497 65 10 Senna Williams 1m24.925s +2.311 48 11 Maldonado Williams 1m25.801s +3.187 20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caesar 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Thanks for that invalueble info Ceasar... but not ALL done on new tyres by Grosjean... Fastest laptimes for today: Grosjean's time done on softs with Vergne on super-softs, both look like qualifying runs 1 Grosjean Lotus 1m22.614s 122 2 Vergne Toro Rosso 1m23.126s +0.512 31 3 Vettel Red Bull 1m23.361s +0.747 85 4 Alonso Ferrari 1m23.447s +0.833 123 5 Kovalainen Caterham 1m23.828s +1.214 104 6 Kobayashi Sauber 1m23.836s +1.222 76 7 Hulkenberg Force India 1m23.893s +1.279 33 8 Schumacher Mercedes 1m23.978s +1.364 77 9 Hamilton McLaren 1m24.111s +1.497 65 10 Senna Williams 1m24.925s +2.311 48 11 Maldonado Williams 1m25.801s +3.187 20 alonso fans have to keep their hopes warm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caesar 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 lotus has plenty of new tyres cause they missed first barcelona test Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 alonso fans have to keep their hopes warm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 lotus has plenty of new tyres cause they missed first barcelona test and ferrari had acquired more data for their car... still, good signs for both teams.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caesar 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 tweet from Lotus_F1Team: "Guess who's just dropped into the Lotus F1 team motorhome for a cup of coffee? A clue... the coffee may be hot but he's ice cold..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 tweet from Lotus_F1Team: "Guess who's just dropped into the Lotus F1 team motorhome for a cup of coffee? A clue... the coffee may be hot but he's ice cold..." lol ...saw that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandyNZL 1 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 tweet from Lotus_F1Team: "Guess who's just dropped into the Lotus F1 team motorhome for a cup of coffee? A clue... the coffee may be hot but he's ice cold..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandyNZL 1 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Q.O. - I think you disregarded the word "projected" before you bothered typing your rant. Crappy teams have indeed always been part of F1 - but not to really compete in F1, they are seduced by the global audience and the potential advertising revenue! in no other global premier sport would you have players able to have a place in the 1st division simply because they were financially attractive. Footballers are paid highly BY THE TEAM not the other way around - otherwise all the top football (or soccer for our american friends) would be composed completely of the sons of bankers and dictators - this simply does not happen (usually!) Sadly that implies that other sports have more talent competing for places than F1, and this will never change when most teams start their negotiations for a new driver with the opening gambit "HOW MUCH CAN YOU PAY US TO DRIVE?". I would rather have 6 or 7 well funded teams, with the possibility of relegation from the grid if they fail to offer anything. They all big up the talk to get the place on the grid, but after they've coughed up for uncle bernie - nothing. lapped once purely on performance - pretty bad, lapped more than once - obviously unworthy! As RBR and MERC have proven, you can come to the grid and mean business . Sigh... Red Bull and Mercedes both are only new teams in name. Each team bought out an existing team, including infrastructure and employees, and rebranded the team. And yet still, it took Red Bull five years to do anything, and Merc, well, they're still trying. Marussia, Caterham, and HRT are all start up teams, with much much less money than either Red Bull or Merc to use to attract engineering staff and designers, which is where any teams success comes from. To use Red Bull and Merc to make your point, is a bit more akin to scoring an own goal....they don't compare to the other three in any way, apart from the fact they race in Formula 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caesar 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 well, he said he'll be back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59MN-CX_rMQ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AleHop 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Good, we have F1 this weekend! No one will beat Alonso. He carries more fuel... He tests the brakes and clutch... And he wins!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Autumnpuma 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Well yes, you set your base line....then every lap thereafter, every change is to make the car FASTER....and with all the telemetary they have these day's they do need to go as fast as possible in certain areas, such as a sweeper corner to ascertain results from yaw sensors, pressure through hydraulic shocks, deflection of A-arms etc etc...they can't leave the track with the last 5-10% as theoretical. It takes nothing to go as fast as possible for an entire lap, then button off before crossing the line, using their own timing beam set up somewhere along the pit wall that they use to record their times before buttoning off. And in any case, I was taking the p**s at Brad with his "???" post, to wit, we bantered along between each other for a short while last night. Or did you miss that bit? No, I caught the banter. But what you said was inaccurate, so I corrected you. Thank you for backing that up with your post. We are in agreement. If you wish to take the p!ss out of someone, nothing works better than accuracy. Like suduku? No, that's how Lewis sets his car up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 tweet from Lotus_F1Team: "Guess who's just dropped into the Lotus F1 team motorhome for a cup of coffee? A clue... the coffee may be hot but he's ice cold..." What the hell is Vanilla Ice doing in Team Poochie's motorhome? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caesar 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 What the hell is Vanilla Ice doing in Team Poochie's motorhome? he is just chillin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 he is just chillin So, just cheking the new cones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caesar 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 So, just cheking the new cones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Autumnpuma 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2012 No fair. Jet engines are *not allowed* under the current rules. Red Bull should be banned for this outrage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted March 3, 2012 Somehow I can imagine the other teams setting their cars on fire just in case that's something Newey came up with Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaster 7 Report post Posted March 3, 2012 Clearly, Red Bull were on a hot lap there. (that's my entry ). Somehow I can imagine the other teams setting their cars on fire just in case that's something Newey came up with I heard HRT just stared. Their engineers had not seen fire before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites