Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 RB went after Vettel almost immediately on the same tire, which could give us comparison. Remains in P3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 MCLAREN CANCEL PRESS CONFERENCE McLaren has cancelled a planned media conference with Eric Boullier and Yusuke Hasegawa today. Update posted on 11:33:55 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 DRIVER TEAM CHASSIS TIME DIFF. # 1. Vettel Ferrari SF70-H 1:19.341 40 ● PIT 2. Hamilton Mercedes W08 1:20.626 +1.285 43 ● PIT 3. Ricciardo Red Bull Racing RB13 1:20.824 +1.483 28 ● PIT 4. Ocon Force India VJM10 1:21.053 +1.712 37 ● 5. Magnussen Haas F1 VF-17 1:21.129 +1.788 29 ● PIT 6. Vandoorne McLaren MCL32 1:22.009 +2.668 24 ● PIT 7. Palmer Renault RS17 1:22.418 +3.077 31 ● PIT 8. Kvyat Toro Rosso STR12 1:22.529 +3.188 21 ● PIT 9. Ericsson Sauber C36 1:24.085 +4.744 54 ● 10. Stroll Williams FW40 1:24.863 +5.522 67 ● PIT 11. Bottas Mercedes W08 no time 0 ● PIT 12. Hülkenberg Renault RS17 no time 0 ● PIT 13. Wehrlein Sauber C36 no time 0 ● PIT 14. Massa Williams FW40 no time 0 ● PIT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, Sakae said: NOT QUITE AS QUICK AS THE RECORD Vettel's lap is not yet the fastest time this winter, which remains the 1:19.310 that Valtteri Bottas put down yesterday on the super soft tyre. Update posted on 11:38:02 VETTEL GOES FASTEST Vettel goes fastest on the soft tyres, with a lap time of 1:19.341. Update posted on 11:35:22 Oh yes...on softs he did. I guess they can beat that all-time record of Massa in the 1:18s on the super-softs. Car is a monster! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, BradSpeedMan said: Oh yes...on softs he did. I guess they can beat that all-time record of Massa in the 1:18s on the super-softs. Car is a monster! I think we have witnessed quali lap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 12:12 By the power of subtraction, we deduce Vettel's Ferrari on super-softs would have been comfortably in the 1m18s. 12:12 OK. Vettel's backed off and gone again, posting a 1m19.4s. He was 0.7s quicker in the final sector that time. So... 12:10 Just to clarify for the Twitterati – that was a 1m19.314s. A 1m13s would not be sandbagging at all. 12:09 So that's an audible bit of sandbagging from Ferrari on super-soft tyres. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 McLaren might have done more laps just simply sit on the flatbed, and driving with them around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 Lunch. DRIVER TEAM CHASSIS TIME DIFF. # 1. Vettel Ferrari SF70-H 1:19.024 60 ● PIT 2. Hamilton Mercedes W08 1:19.352 +0.328 52 ● PIT 3. Ocon Force India VJM10 1:20.161 +1.137 51 ● PIT 4. Kvyat Toro Rosso STR12 1:20.416 +1.392 33 ● PIT 5. Ricciardo Red Bull Racing RB13 1:20.824 +1.800 41 ● PIT 6. Magnussen Haas F1 VF-17 1:20.863 +1.839 44 ● PIT 7. Vandoorne McLaren MCL32 1:21.348 +2.324 32 ● PIT 8. Palmer Renault RS17 1:22.418 +3.394 31 ● PIT 9. Ericsson Sauber C36 1:23.330 +4.306 88 ● PIT 10. Stroll Williams FW40 1:24.863 +5.839 85 ● PIT 11. Massa Williams FW40 no time 0 ● PIT 12. Bottas Mercedes W08 no time 0 ● PIT 13. Hülkenberg Renault RS17 no time 0 ● PIT 14. Wehrlein Sauber C36 no time 0 ● PIT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Sakae said: 22 minutes ago, Sakae said: McLaren might have done more laps just simply sit on the flatbed, and driving with them around. Ja. Mclaren caused another red flag. So much for Alonso's clever excuse of starting the grand plan of the mclaren project after he got fired frim the red team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 If RBR is hiding something, they are then doing a magnificent job of it. To appreciate their sandbagging, if that's what it is, one has to realize that there is only 12 hrs of testing left in this pre-season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 Alonso was quoted that the only team he fears this year is RBR. I got that; standing on the starting grid next to VER and finish first lap without contact is no small matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emmcee 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 At it again are we? Refusing to accept the fact he left on his own accord and wasn't fired. Must know something that brundle, kravitz and the entire f1 fraternity doesn't know. Claim he was fired because it doesn't make Vettel the "plan b" option look so bad. Every team in the grid would want alonso over any other driver and why is that? Because the whole f1 community and his peers say he's the best, but hey what would they know, they only compete against him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 I totally agree that Alonso left on his own accord through the door on one way ticket which Ferrari invitingly opened for him and without anyone dragging him by his collar. His wisdom, once outside of the door, that McLaren was his best option pays now handsomely off. A lot of money for very little work - good stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
radical-one 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 58 minutes ago, Sakae said: If RBR is hiding something, they are then doing a magnificent job of it. To appreciate their sandbagging, if that's what it is, one has to realize that there is only 12 hrs of testing left in this pre-season. That means they/rbr are not learning enough of their car so far and there's only few days left to set and find it's potentials. To me until you try you don't know for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, radical-one said: That means they/rbr are not learning enough of their car so far and there's only few days left to set and find it's potentials. To me until you try you don't know for sure. Exactly right. One wonders if Ferrari's enquiry about tricks of the trade and subsequent FiA checks put dampers on not so legal cars, and what we see is consequential outcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 This is very different pre-season that of 2014. Here Vettel is having car with not much downtime, and he seems to love it how it feels. 100+ laps with 2 hrs to go. Good stuff. Seb still labels Mercedes as benchmark (suggesting heavy sandbagging by Merc). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 90 min to go: DRIVER TEAM CHASSIS TIME DIFF. # 1. Vettel Ferrari SF70-H 1:19.024 127 ● 2. Hamilton Mercedes W08 1:19.352 +0.328 52 ● PIT 3. Ocon Force India VJM10 1:20.161 +1.137 117 ● 4. Kvyat Toro Rosso STR12 1:20.416 +1.392 76 ● PIT 5. Magnussen Haas F1 VF-17 1:20.504 +1.480 71 ● 6. Ricciardo Red Bull Racing RB13 1:20.824 +1.800 100 ● 7. Vandoorne McLaren MCL32 1:21.348 +2.324 41 ● 8. Bottas Mercedes W08 1:21.819 +2.795 55 ● PIT 9. Palmer Renault RS17 1:22.418 +3.394 48 ● PIT 10. Wehrlein Sauber C36 1:22.473 +3.449 25 ● PIT 11. Ericsson Sauber C36 1:23.330 +4.306 88 ● PIT 12. Stroll Williams FW40 1:24.863 +5.839 85 ● PIT 13. Massa Williams FW40 1:25.080 +6.056 38 ● Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 Looks like Mercedes, RBR and Ferrari will play together. Not everyone had a good day. Obviously McLaren, and to lesser extend Renault might be in trouble season long. Rest of them will go up and down like yoyo. Williams started well, but today it was not too good. Haas is not bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 That's it for Sebastian. Summary for Vettel: in Barc. 9 race distances, 2756 [km]. The guy is fit. Now - Melbourne. DRIVER TEAM CHASSIS TIME DIFF. # 1. Vettel Ferrari SF70-H 1:19.024 156 ● PIT 2. Hamilton Mercedes W08 1:19.352 +0.328 52 ● PIT 3. Ocon Force India VJM10 1:20.161 +1.137 137 ● PIT 4. Kvyat Toro Rosso STR12 1:20.416 +1.392 94 ● PIT 5. Magnussen Haas F1 VF-17 1:20.504 +1.480 119 ● PIT 6. Ricciardo Red Bull Racing RB13 1:20.824 +1.800 128 ● PIT 7. Vandoorne McLaren MCL32 1:21.348 +2.324 48 ● PIT 8. Bottas Mercedes W08 1:21.819 +2.795 95 ● PIT 9. Wehrlein Sauber C36 1:22.347 +3.323 44 ● PIT 10. Palmer Renault RS17 1:22.418 +3.394 53 ● PIT 11. Ericsson Sauber C36 1:23.330 +4.306 88 ● PIT 12. Massa Williams FW40 1:24.443 +5.419 80 ● PIT 13. Stroll Williams FW40 1:24.863 +5.839 85 ● PIT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emmcee 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2017 8 hours ago, Sakae said: Exactly right. One wonders if Ferrari's enquiry about tricks of the trade and subsequent FiA checks put dampers on not so legal cars, and what we see is consequential outcome. A lot of people though think Redbull will turn up in Melbourne with a totally different car. The car looks bland and from a design standpoint, newey usually has these out of the world ideas and finds the best loopholes that end creating clarification on rules often ruling in his favour due to the intelligence and common sense the man has. So I've starting to hold some positivity over that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
radical-one 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 Can't wait for round one ! Australia Let's get it on ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 For my taste there is far too many assumptions about RB, and a lot of trust that a design engineer pulls a rabbit out of his hat which will smash rest of them in two weeks time. If so, I am not sure why then they bothered to show up at Barcelona. Such strategy is lost on me. There is one day left for them to show something in testing, yet people are talking about having new generations of engines in Melbourne, different aero, .... It's a puzzle. With others it is what it is to a large extend. Not too many secrets are left. At least for the first race, while in-season development is parallel war that is raging on, and which, as we know, Ferrari didn't win last year. Ferrari, Mercedes, could be RB in group 1, with Williams and FI lurking on their heals Rest of them are struggling. Haas is enigma, but they will score some points. McLaren - well, they are 150:1 for the championship. (LH is 1:1 by the same bookies). That's my impression of what I have observed in last 7 days and that's how season gets started. Pecking order - I don't have one, but it will change probably through the season, depends on development rate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 Paddock interviews - Ferrari is "twitchy" at the front in comparison to stable Mercedes. Hmmm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 Last day: DRIVER TEAM CHASSIS TIME DIFF. # 1. Räikkönen Ferrari SF70-H no time 0 ● PIT 2. Perez Force India VJM10 no time 0 ● PIT 3. Verstappen Red Bull Racing RB13 no time 0 ● PIT 4. Bottas Mercedes W08 no time 0 ● PIT 5. Hülkenberg Renault RS17 no time 0 ● PIT 6. Wehrlein Sauber C36 no time 0 ● PIT 7. Stroll Williams FW40 no time 0 ● PIT 8. Alonso McLaren MCL32 no time 0 ● PIT 9. Ericsson Sauber C36 no time 0 ● PIT 10. Sainz jr Toro Rosso STR12 no time 0 ● PIT 11. Palmer Renault RS17 no time 0 ● PIT 12. Grosjean Haas F1 VF-17 no time 0 ● PIT 13. Hamilton Mercedes W08 no time 0 ● PIT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 90 min into last testing day: DRIVER TEAM CHASSIS TIME DIFF. # 1. Hülkenberg Renault RS17 1:20.248 15 ● PIT 2. Bottas Mercedes W08 1:21.678 +1.430 9 ● 3. Stroll Williams FW40 1:21.916 +1.668 38 ● 4. Räikkönen Ferrari SF70-H 1:22.261 +2.013 14 ● PIT 5. Perez Force India VJM10 1:22.622 +2.374 21 ● PIT 6. Sainz jr Toro Rosso STR12 1:22.638 +2.390 17 ● PIT 7. Grosjean Haas F1 VF-17 1:22.670 +2.422 22 ● 8. Alonso McLaren MCL32 1:22.731 +2.483 15 ● PIT 9. Ericsson Sauber C36 1:23.434 +3.186 32 ● PIT 10. Verstappen Red Bull Racing RB13 no time 4 ● 11. Palmer Renault RS17 no time 0 ● PIT 12. Hamilton Mercedes W08 no time 0 ● PIT 13. Wehrlein Sauber C36 no time 0 ● PIT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites