lipstick79 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2017 With Ron Dennis looking like getting his wish, McLaren Honda exclusivity Who are Sauber now going to be powered by in 2017? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caesar 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, lipstick79 said: With Ron Dennis looking like getting his wish, McLaren Honda exclusivity Who are Sauber now going to be powered by in 2017? By ferrari. 2018 is questionable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipstick79 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2017 OOpps I meant in 2018, when Sauber were supposed to be a Honda customer - but that deal now looks like it`s dead - Honda not able to supply more than McLaren Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2017 24 July 2017, 9:24 Frederic Vasseur, a new TP, acknowledged a few changes on team's status. 1. Large unspecified budget afforded to him by new owners. 2. Choice of PU for next year is open. Honda must be also in running according to some sources. 3. Ericsson may or may not have job next year. (Nasr is looking for one). This is an interesting one, since new owners are Ericsson's sponsors. Amend. Nobuharu Matsus##ta will be testing in Hungary. Interesting times at Sauber these days, considering the team has been functioning on life support for past a few years after Mr. Sauber has retired of racing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipstick79 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2017 With a Honda driver, set to test with Sauber It appears that the Honda-Sauber deal IS back ON !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2017 24 July 2017, 13:36 Based on believe that reporting is accurate, I am rather under impression that Sauber is evaluating more PU suppliers than one, and as of this time, no determination on selection has been announced as yet. Aim is to elevate team's standing, and critical question will focus whether Honda will be an asset in that effort, or hinderance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2017 26 July 2017, 11:51 It doesn't sounds very reassuring or promising that Sauber would consider to slot in this young Japanese next year as their driver. Whole post-race test sounds more of a favor to Honda, rather than deeply rooted conviction of his potential. Quote Honda protege Nobuharu Matsus##ta will have his first experience of driving a Formula One car when he tests with Sauber in Hungary next week, the Swiss-based team said on Monday. The 23-year-old Japanese is currently a test and development driver with Honda-powered McLaren, focussing on work in the simulator. Matsus##ta also competes in the Formula Two support series for the ART team, which is run by newly appointed Sauber principal Frederic Vasseur. “I am pleased that Nobuharu has this great opportunity. He deserves the experience of his first test in a Formula One car,” said the Frenchman Vasseur in a team statement. “With this Formula One test, he comes one step closer to his dream of becoming an F1 driver one day.” Fred, FFS, the guy is 23 already. What are you waiting for? Test or no test, people do need sometimes a simple opportunity to grow. Japan, a nation of 127+ million without an active driver in the series is irony, considering who else made it onto a starting grid, and how much money Honda is pumping into this swamp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2017 27 July 2017, 16:39 Team principal Frederic Vasseur: "It is very unfortunate that we have to discontinue the planned collaboration with Honda at this stage. However, this decision has been made for strategic reasons, and with the best intent for the future of the Sauber F1 Team in mind. We would like to thank Honda for their collaboration, and wish them all the best for their future in Formula One." Disappointing. I was hoping Nobuharu hopping into one of the Sauber seats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipstick79 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2017 On 26/07/2017 at 11:03 AM, Sakae said: 26 July 2017, 11:51 Japan, a nation of 127+ million without an active driver in the series is irony, considering who else made it onto a starting grid, and how much money Honda is pumping into this swamp. Honda ARE following the fizzy drink (Red Bull). World exposure & marketing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 17 hours ago, Sakae said: 27 July 2017, 16:39 Team principal Frederic Vasseur: "It is very unfortunate that we have to discontinue the planned collaboration with Honda at this stage. However, this decision has been made for strategic reasons, and with the best intent for the future of the Sauber F1 Team in mind. We would like to thank Honda for their collaboration, and wish them all the best for their future in Formula One." Disappointing. I was hoping Nobuharu hopping into one of the Sauber seats. 28 July 2017, 9:46 Quote Matsus##ta's F2 rival Gustav Malja will also test for Sauber next week. Malja is another Swedish driver who could be potentially hired by Sauber. I'm not sure however why they would do that, while Nasr is knocking on the door. Notable here is naked truth as optics are suggesting, that testing of Nobuharu appears to be without merit, and it merely fulfills a commitment MK made to Honda before FV was installed in his job. Pity. FiA mandates the test of junior drivers, so the team will have to spend money and time, like it or not. This morning: Quote SAUBER SIGN ENGINE SUPPLY AGREEMENT WITH FERRARI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipstick79 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 Big mistake - HUGE Honda WILL DOMINATE next season with Mclaren Mclaren WILL win EVERY race with Honda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, lipstick79 said: Big mistake - HUGE Honda WILL DOMINATE next season with Mclaren Mclaren WILL win EVERY race with Honda lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 28 July 2017, 16:15 Is it too soon to begin counting wrecked cars bearing Pascal's fingerprints? What's going on with him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipstick79 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 Back in 1988, when McLaren-Honda won 15 of the 16 races WILL be BETTERED. McLaren-Honda will EVERY race !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 28 July 2017, 16:34 That's pretty fast "lawnmower" as you say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipstick79 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 McLaren ARE working on something, similar to their 3rd pedal concept Which the FIA changed the rules to BAN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 Huh? What are you talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipstick79 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 My people in Woking inform me, that the design guys in the factory. ARE excited, just need the guys in Japan to sort the reliability out. To finish first, first you MUST finish Do you remember when Mclaren blew the field away, with Mika Hakkinen, DC & the THIRD pedal (operate front & rear brakes separately) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 We will see tomorrow how well they perform. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2017 Quote LECLERC TOPS THE FIRST DAY OF TESTING IN HUNGARY 1 August 2017, 18:40 Messieur Vasseur will get Ferrari's 2018 spec engine, but he is not obliged accommodating and train Ferrari's youngsters, yet it would be nice of him to get at least this guy into one of Sauber's seats as a gesture of gratitude. Practice is behind perfection, as they say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2017 Matsus##ta Sauber C36 1:23.133 +6.009 12 laps 2 August 2017, 11:16 A lag of 6 sec can be explained probably as his is first trial in real F1 car, and also fact is, C36 is in different class to Vettel's Ferrari, leading morning test on second day. I am not sure where this is going, but I am having difficulty to envision Matsu next year with Sauber (for many reasons, most of them political), however I hope I am wrong. No one was fired yet, however there are at least three or four new names who could compete for those two seats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipstick79 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2017 Sauber unwilling to babysit Mclaren at Honda, Return to Ferrari customer, now set to run the Alfa badge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2017 29 August 2017 15:55 (CEST) No more of Honda-Sauber deal. Reasons for ceasing negotiations with Honda explained by Vasseur. Now it makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2017 2 September 2017 18:01 (CEST) - What's up with Sauber? Anyone? Messieur Vasseur IMO (indirectly) confirmed LeClerc for next year. Rumor has it they will be rebranded Alfa Romeo. If so, this will be sad day for Peter Sauber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2017 10 September 2017 18:45 (CEST) Frederic Vasseur is planning to increase work-force to 400, which seems to be a decent number if you do not built PU, but how does this lot compare to their peers? Low-midrange? It was said that MB has 1200 - 1500 employees working on the F1 project. McLaren has probably more than 400 on their payroll, and then when numbers become meaningless, what about quality of this workforce? Maybe lack of direct F1 experience could be an advantage, since fresh ideas, free of misconceptions, pave grounds for innovation. Work on 2018 car is on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites