lipstick79

2019 Honda

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It`s beginning to look a lot like Christmas, this early for RedBull Honda.
The Honda package so far is out pacing the Renault.
Maybe Mclaren will rue, handing OVER the works Honda. 
Obviously time will tell, though the important thing for Mclaren WERE to keep Alonso happy. 
Even though now, he is pursuing other things away from F1 - motorsports treble  crown.
The marketing possibilities available for Mclaren will, arguably be better than a fizzy drink !!
Alonso IS still in the Mclaren family, to keep Sainz on his toes !!

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On 29. 03. 2019. at 5:01 PM, lipstick79 said:

It`s beginning to look a lot like Christmas, this early for RedBull Honda.
The Honda package so far is out pacing the Renault.
Maybe Mclaren will rue, handing OVER the works Honda. 
Obviously time will tell, though the important thing for Mclaren WERE to keep Alonso happy. 
Even though now, he is pursuing other things away from F1 - motorsports treble  crown.
The marketing possibilities available for Mclaren will, arguably be better than a fizzy drink !!
Alonso IS still in the Mclaren family, to keep Sainz on his toes !!

Wrong, seen todays race?

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Indeed, I SAW today`s race
Redbull Honda got a LOT of marketing 
Sales of a fizzy drink will B UP !!

The Honda package so far IS out pacing the Renault
>What were WRONG about that ??

It IS still true,  Maybe Mclaren will rue, handing OVER the works Honda
FREE PU with LOT`S of marketin 4 ALL of Mclaren`s sponsors - BOTH of them !!!

So I am confused by UR comment ???
 

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9 hours ago, lipstick79 said:

Indeed, I SAW today`s race
Redbull Honda got a LOT of marketing 
Sales of a fizzy drink will B UP !!

The Honda package so far IS out pacing the Renault
>What were WRONG about that ??

It IS still true,  Maybe Mclaren will rue, handing OVER the works Honda
FREE PU with LOT`S of marketin 4 ALL of Mclaren`s sponsors - BOTH of them !!!

So I am confused by UR comment ???
 

Wasnt so IMPRESSED with Honda today . McLaren look better with Renault than red bull with Honda.

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I`m NOT impressed by Honda either. 
Though looking at the development cycle.  Honda are relatively new AGAIN.
They HAVE made the podium with their NEW works partner - Torro Rosso Redbull
Mclaren STILL haven`t made the podium since Mclaren Mercedes
The Renault is at the end of it`s development cycle.  Where as Honda is once again at the beginning, with a new partner. 
The guys in Woking (Mclaren) WILL have to scratch their heads AGAIN.

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26 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

I`m NOT impressed by Honda either. 
Though looking at the development cycle.  Honda are relatively new AGAIN.
They HAVE made the podium with their NEW works partner - Torro Rosso Redbull
Mclaren STILL haven`t made the podium since Mclaren Mercedes
The Renault is at the end of it`s development cycle.  Where as Honda is once again at the beginning, with a new partner. 
The guys in Woking (Mclaren) WILL have to scratch their heads AGAIN.

Well Honda has to ne on a new cycle, after fiasco with McLaren they could only get better

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Lets NOT forget Brawn GP were the old Honda team

Before Brawn GP and Button went on to win.
Things DO turn around in F1.

Mercedes have bought Brawn GP since.
So technically from Honda came the mighty Mercedes !!!

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Too early to say anything but soon as RB get their Chassis in place it will be very interesting :ban_006:  

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Ali i see is mediocre Sainz with mediocre McLaren overtaking excellent Verstappen in excellent Red Bull.😏

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Re:  Ali i see is 
... excellent Verstappen in excellent Red Bull
> There IS something wrong with UR vision 
Should have gone to Specsavers

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1 hour ago, lipstick79 said:

Re:  Ali i see is 
... excellent Verstappen in excellent Red Bull
> There IS something wrong with UR vision 
Should have gone to Specsavers

Hehe

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Its just the 2nd race. Its a looooong season to go.

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5 minutes ago, radical-one said:

Its just the 2nd race. Its a looooong season to go.

Yes but you can see here amazing job Honda has done hehe

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Whatever type of job they have done, amazing or NOT.
The end result has NOT been a cheap one !!!
Honda like Red Bull HAS thrown money at F1, so people CAN see their brand
and buy a fizzy drink.
Red Bull started it with the Renault partnership.

Honda want to be seen it F1, but the Mclaren Honda project did NOT work out.
Red Bull saw the potential money, and did not waste the opportunity for people to see a fizzy drink

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15 hours ago, lipstick79 said:

Whatever type of job they have done, amazing or NOT.
The end result has NOT been a cheap one !!!
Honda like Red Bull HAS thrown money at F1, so people CAN see their brand
and buy a fizzy drink.
Red Bull started it with the Renault partnership.

Honda want to be seen it F1, but the Mclaren Honda project did NOT work out.
Red Bull saw the potential money, and did not waste the opportunity for people to see a fizzy drink

In short Honda and RB and TR partnerships are benefiting  all parties.

That means its a good deal for all.

And that's all the matters for now...

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5 hours ago, radical-one said:

In short Honda and RB and TR partnerships are benefiting  all parties.

That means its a good deal for all.

And that's all the matters for now...

I remember some statements from Helmut and Horner before season about Renault, Honda and McLaren hehe

Its not a good deal 

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19 hours ago, Caesar said:

I remember some statements from Helmut and Horner before season about Renault, Honda and McLaren hehe

Its not a good deal 

Doesn't matter to me.

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1 hour ago, radical-one said:

Doesn't matter to me.

Well this aint "Radical-one's feelings about Honda" thread, it is Honda thread, hehe

Honda makes cars go slower

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On 05/04/2019 at 5:35 AM, radical-one said:

In short Honda and RB and TR partnerships are benefiting  all parties.

That means its a good deal for all.

And that's all the matters for now...

NOT really - it SHOWS that in F1 HAVE to throw HUGE sums of $$ to B successful.
Red Bull Honda NOT even successful YET but HAVE spent HUGE sums.
Red Bull Renault were a LOT more successful without the HUGE expenditure
Red Bull Honda NOW HAVE to B successful

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On 4/6/2019 at 10:24 PM, lipstick79 said:

NOT really - it SHOWS that in F1 HAVE to throw HUGE sums of $$ to B successful.
Red Bull Honda NOT even successful YET but HAVE spent HUGE sums.
Red Bull Renault were a LOT more successful without the HUGE expenditure
Red Bull Honda NOW HAVE to B successful

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/674686/Newey_Honda_a_8216breath_of_fresh_air8217/

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3 hours ago, radical-one said:

Well, we "knew" plausible chances existed that Honda will catch up sooner or later. Moreover, I also think it has taken little longer than otherwise was possible due to restrictive nature of F1 on rate of development. (Lord knows I hate that with passion.)

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4 minutes ago, Sakae said:

... Honda will catch up sooner or later. Moreover, I also think it has taken little longer than otherwise was possible due to restrictive nature of F1 on rate of development. (Lord knows I hate that with passion.)

Otherwise possible because, DIFFERENT era`s.
Honda are NOW in the hybrid era, and NEW before they partnered with Red Bull (and before that Mclaren).
The restrictions - it is NOTHING new.

Mercedes R the champion`s of BOTH era`s. 
Champion`s with Brawn in the V8 era.
Successfully becoming champion`s AGAIN, in the turbo hybrid era.

It seems to me that, Honda will probably catch up more later than sooner.
But whist Honda are, catching up what are the others doin?
Ferrari are also advancing.  Then in the background with less resources,
Renault will always B competition.  Renault were successful in the V8 era.
Doin a good, respectable job in the turbo hybrid era.
The Renault has never been ultimately quick in any era`s, just reliable.
The power of Renault has always been to utilise the chassis, and use THAT for the speed gains.
You have got to be in it, to win it.
 

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On 4/6/2019 at 3:20 PM, Caesar said:

Well this aint "Radical-one's feelings about Honda" thread, it is Honda thread, hehe

Honda makes cars go slower

What happened to your McNissan ? Fluked the last time and Faded this time ?

Looks like they were put in their right place on the grid this time huh ?

Sorry dude.

 

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On 4/9/2019 at 6:48 PM, Sakae said:

Well, we "knew" plausible chances existed that Honda will catch up sooner or later. Moreover, I also think it has taken little longer than otherwise was possible due to restrictive nature of F1 on rate of development. (Lord knows I hate that with passion.)

Well Sakae, we can see in today's Qualy, that is the actual current Pecking order.

 

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