F1 - What's on your mind? (Year 2020)

[lipstick79 0]

The team benefit`s because the sponsors logo`s R seen
Red Bull Racing have PROVEN that the visual impact of a brand in F1 is a SUCCESS
Y R U confusin the issue with quantitative issues ?
Modern F1 IS about brand awareness - or DON`T U follow F1 ?
Team`s DONT pay - insurance policy`s PAY
 

[Sakae 0]

On 6/14/2020 at 2:02 PM, lipstick79 said:

Team`s DONT pay - insurance policy`s PAY
 

Insurance pays for crashes and that's all free pass for the team according to you? Which insurance again is in the business to loose money? 

When one of the TP's said last year that every time they have to replace front wing during a race, it cost them (his team) 150k, was he wrong? According to you, he should have said, insurance will loose another 150k? 

My question was not how much intangible (dubious) benefits crashing F1 car yields, but how much recovery from crash it will cost a team and how it affects their budget. Someone in media stated 300K this year. As I understand your response, it will not cost them anything.

I disagree with you. There is direct cost and there are intangibles including lost of race presence, etc. Crashing a race car seems rather poor advertising strategy (which you like) and generally no good for more than one reason.

lipstick, this is not first time you are taking rather scornful attitude towards me on this forum. You have every right to disagree, but don't make it personal, please. I do follow F1 from top to basement almost certainly longer than you, every day, and not just on a smart phone. I repeat, I know a thing or two, because I have seen a thing or two (and on a large screen smart phone has).

[Sakae 0]

Date 2020.06.16   Time 6:12 (UTC)

China is offering to host two races. I think it's a good thing, and I am all for it. Liberty meanwhile is playing hard to get with tracks in Germany. Considering how much money and support sport received from Mercedes, my level of respect for F1 management is another notch down on likeable-scale.

[Sakae 0]

Date 2020.06.24   Time 9:57 (UTC)

Alex Zanardi.

Italian hero. What one can say about this man. For many years I loved to watch him race in NA, and despite his brief affair with the F1, he was one of my favorite personalities in series long time now gone. As Bobby Unser said once, this guy can start at the end of the grid, and within 3 laps he will "bulldozer" his way to the front. Full of energy, never giving up on life, beautiful family, and then he had a major accident. A big one, when he lost his legs, and now this again; he is in induced coma, fighting for his life. I say, thanks Alex for keeping me in suspense all those years, but please, take it easy now. It's too soon for you to move to other world where more racing awaits for you. It's good to have you around, buddy. Be good, be well, cheerful as ever.  

[Sakae 0]

Date 2020.07.14   Time 6:50 (UTC)

Scanning headlines on sites like GP247 and GPToday (especially later one) struck me having one theme that dominates - widespread discontent. It seems as almost everybody is fighting with somebody, often on multiple fronts. Was this always like that? Is it time to dust off and pull this one out - "Ruling class" (F1 management) better watch out when slaves are in bad mood!

I am sure if one takes time and look closer back on sport history, then every year we can find something which made blood boil for some people, yet I am not convinced it was of such magnitude as we have it today. I am hoping to be forgiven for referring to history that often, but I do recall times when articles and discussion about quality of racing art, rather than elevating crashes appeared as frontline news.

Today, racing craft discussion is replaced with stories like the one about DR, hero of (some) media, reprimands his management, and a few more opinions of this kind. But then, racing space was at premium on pages of expensive magazines, no space for printing mood of racing prima-donnas, and it was all before advent of the internet and access to a keyboard rather on the cheap. (OK, predictably I blame the internet which permits someone like me to write this.)

I am not sure whether the mood-swings trend is heading these days; up, leveling, or on the South-slope. One thing is however certain. People get tired of it. How it will affect our allegiances to this sport remains to be seen. I do detect preoccupancy with pacification of the teams and forced alignment with commercial interests of the ruling class. First time we have now "Financial specifications". I am not sure where is the space of serious and genuine consideration what will draw new fans to the sport. Maybe it will just happen. I am an old fan who runs on momentum of the old, but what about the young ones? As far as I can determine, having them in one room while race was on, they played computer games instead following TV, with (short distraction of about 10 sec) friendly offer to bring me some tablets for killing my (potential) headache after Leclerc rammed into #5. So much for their interest in F1. Just pity by 11 years old for the old fan. 

[Sakae 0]

On 6/24/2020 at 12:09 PM, Sakae said:

Date 2020.06.24   Time 9:57 (UTC)

Alex Zanardi.

Italian hero. What one can say about this man. For many years I loved to watch him race in NA, and despite his brief affair with the F1, he was one of my favorite personalities in series long time now gone. As Bobby Unser said once, this guy can start at the end of the grid, and within 3 laps he will "bulldozer" his way to the front. Full of energy, never giving up on life, beautiful family, and then he had a major accident. A big one, when he lost his legs, and now this again; he is in induced coma, fighting for his life. I say, thanks Alex for keeping me in suspense all those years, but please, take it easy now. It's too soon for you to move to other world where more racing awaits for you. It's good to have you around, buddy. Be good, be well, cheerful as ever.  

Date 2020.07.17   Time 4:45 (UTC)

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After several surgeries to improve his condition, the hospital has indicated he is set to undergo the next phase in the treatment process.

Looks like things are moving into right direction for Alex. I have my fingers crossed for him. Good man!

Date 2020.07.24   Time 18:06 (UTC)

Spoke too soon?

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Italian former Formula 1 driver and Paralympic champion Alex Zanardi was returning to intensive care on Friday, three days after being moved to a specialist recovery centre to treat serious head injuries.

I am really sorry to hear that, especially when Alex has injured his eyesight (not sure of details). I wish him, and his family well. Always fighting, never defeated. My respect.

[Sakae 0]

Date 2020.07.25   Time 6:09 (UTC)

F1 calendar uncertainty a ‘nightmare’ scenario for teams

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“It’s a nightmare to manage when you don’t know how much you’re going to spend and how much you’re going to get,” Haas F1 Team boss Guenther Steiner admitted to Speedcafe.com. “How can you manage a business? It’s more of a guessing than managing, I would say.” All development work has currently stopped at Haas as Steiner looks to keep control of the budget as best he can.

The team faces an uncertain future, with even Romain Grosjean over the Hungarian Grand Prix weekend acknowledging that he had little insight as to whether the team would continue in 2021.

Why would be anyone surprised? Owners driving their goal (money), and team are left to deal with it (condensed haphazard season full of specials), at their loss or not. I doubt there will be any team which will make money this year. Mercedes might get some consoling money in December, call it winner's price, but probably not enough to cover cost of the season. The racing is happening (positive side), and it is cost inefficient (consequences). Externally, lacking all facts, it is difficult to say it is better than shutting whole season down, or maybe have just 6 races instead as many as they plan to have. I am on one side happy I see some racing, but feeling of selfishness is heavy. Perhaps I could wait until vaccine is available to everyone who needs it. Racing is not essential part of my life, despite liking it a lot.

Grosjean spoke most likely what he belives to be the truth, and got his back whipped for it as Steiner called him out on it. Sometimes the truth is not really convenient. Haas is part of manufacturing sector, and that business is decimated everywhere, so it is not difficult to be sympathetic to his forthcoming decision, whatever that will be.

[Sakae 0]

GP247

Looks interesting. Not bad. (Safety screen that is). However - what if rains or mud gets on it?

[BradSpeedMan 6]

2 hours ago, Sakae said:

GP247

Looks interesting. Not bad. (Safety screen that is). However - what if rains or mud gets on it?

Exactly, since cars really have a problem with overtaking. Well, some cars...

 

Otherwise, pretty good. Also, you can see more of the driver with his inputs, altho F1 driver sits lower. The shield was considered by RBR as a suggestion. I really liked that, smaller in height but better than this halo we have currently

[Sakae 0]

10 hours ago, BradSpeedMan said:

Exactly, since cars really have a problem with overtaking. Well, some cars...

 

Otherwise, pretty good. Also, you can see more of the driver with his inputs, altho F1 driver sits lower. The shield was considered by RBR as a suggestion. I really liked that, smaller in height but better than this halo we have currently

Nice, but still a partial solution. Loose wheel attached to its axle (as seldom as that happen these days) may get deflected by the shield; projectile (stray spring) may get deflected or lose significant amount of kinetic energy upon penetration, but I have my doubts shield will save a driver in similar regrettable situation such as we had in Japan. Despite all continuing efforts to protect a driver, and there are some good ones, racing still remains dangerous activity and driver newer will be totally safe. Is it why we are actually watching? (No one, other than a traffic cop, would watch me driving around in my car, that much I am certain.)

[lipstick79 0]

Hamilton is NOT the Sennaesque, Schumacher achievin hero that the media HAS lead us 2 believe, after his run of consecutive WDC`s.
It HAS happened Before and it`s happenin again.  
Hamilton against somebody IN the same machinery is NOT up 2 the challenge.  
Team mate Rosberg, got the better of Hamilton and WON his ONLY WDC before retiring  with the glory.
Bottas IN the SAME machinery continues to out perform Hamilton. 
I DON`T know where I am goin with this, but Hamilton CONTINUES to B first of the losers.

[BradSpeedMan 6]

11 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

Hamilton is NOT the Sennaesque, Schumacher achievin hero that the media HAS lead us 2 believe, after his run of consecutive WDC`s.
It HAS happened Before and it`s happenin again.  
Hamilton against somebody IN the same machinery is NOT up 2 the challenge.  
Team mate Rosberg, got the better of Hamilton and WON his ONLY WDC before retiring  with the glory.
Bottas IN the SAME machinery continues to out perform Hamilton. 
I DON`T know where I am goin with this, but Hamilton CONTINUES to B first of the losers.

He's leading by 30 points ... in uhm... more equal machinery

[lipstick79 0]

50 minutes ago, BradSpeedMan said:

He's leading by 30 points ... in uhm... more equal machinery

At this time he is, but it wasn`t that long ago Hamilton WERE leading by MORE - in uhm... more equal machinery 
As my old gran used 2 say, proof of the pudding is in the eating

[Sakae 0]

F1 since its inception seems to run from one controversy into another, full of infighting and bad blood, but is it just me seeing it wrong, or it is getting worse by an hour? Maybe in the past I used to buy and read weekly bunch of overpriced magazines for what they delivered, which was content never short of ode on British greatness, whereas today internet seems to amplify every misstep of two-bit character into new light not available in the past. It is getting rather tiring, methinks. 

[Sakae 0]

Nicolas Hülkenberg revealed he is talking to two teams. One he named is Alfa Romeo (most likely Kimi will be retiring). The second one could be Haas, and I am guessing here. I am however glad it looks promising for him. Last race was good as gold.

Mercedes is in headlines as a "bad boy" for not dropping on their knees and refusing to sign a bad contract. Now we learn that RP is apparently with them about those sporting issues, and also - no signatures yet.  Brawn can use big words as much as he wants, but two teams screaming should get his attention. 

We still don't have any idea how Torger will resolve his business interests. I am apparently not alone who is scratching his head about wisdom of his investment of 40MM into RP - basically a competing team. Makes me wonder if thinking is in focus on RBR which owns a second team, and whether MB has some designs on RP and similar relationship.

 

[BradSpeedMan 6]

5 hours ago, Sakae said:

F1 since its inception seems to run from one controversy into another, full of infighting and bad blood, but is it just me seeing it wrong, or it is getting worse by an hour? Maybe in the past I used to buy and read weekly bunch of overpriced magazines for what they delivered, which was content never short of ode on British greatness, whereas today internet seems to amplify every misstep of two-bit character into new light not available in the past. It is getting rather tiring, methinks. 

Used to buy and enjoy reading F1 Racing. It started getting difficult to get, could not find them anywhere. Maybe they went out of publication. Also British, and hugely overprized, but that was more because of exchange rate. It had great articles and in-dept insight. 

[Sakae 0]

15 minutes ago, BradSpeedMan said:

Used to buy and enjoy reading F1 Racing. It started getting difficult to get, could not find them anywhere. Maybe they went out of publication. Also British, and hugely overprized, but that was more because of exchange rate. It had great articles and in-dept insight. 

Yeah, it was about 5 or 6 magazines, we had to wait a few days to see them on the shelve, each contained one or two decent articles, and that was that. Some technical magazines weren't bad.

[blackpebel 0]

Fastest DRIVERS over the last 40 years

Seems legit. 

[Sakae 0]

Totally misleading and worthless statistics good for puny minds. Good for killing time perhaps because there is nothing more worthy available to talk about.

[blackpebel 0]

9 minutes ago, Sakae said:

Totally misleading and worthless statistics good for puny minds. Good for killing time perhaps because there is nothing more worthy is available.

Now now.. 

You have the right to question the accuracy of the stats, but saying it is TOTALLY WORTHLESS and Misleading?? Nah.. 

I'm not sure if you neglect how good Ayrton was, or if you are rejecting the analysis based on ur own preference or choice of drivers, but this list seems pretty legit to compare drivers of different generations.

Although I am surprised to see Kovalainen and trulli in this list.. I personally Never gave a thought to consider them this good... But I still respect the data here.. 

[Sakae 0]

I stand by my statement. There is so much wrong on that presentation, I think it had to be brainchild by someone who has flank a junior high school and now, unemployed, has excessive amount of time, siting in mummy's basement. I am however not going to go beyond stated opinion. I am only sorry that this BS (sorry) is going to be repeated for next 10 years, until a new BS (sorry again) appears.

Lets refresh past:

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..."there are three kinds of falsehoods, lies, damned lies and statistics"...

I find the quoted content rather close to what I believe is the truth.

[BradSpeedMan 6]

1 hour ago, blackpebel said:

Fastest DRIVERS over the last 40 years

Seems legit. 

Really bp. I'm really disappointted. Heiki and Trulli????? In the top 10.. above Vettel??

I agree with the first 2, others are nonsensical. As Sakae has stated... someone was bored...

Hey, Maybe they threw Trulli in becoz he was beating Alonso. Allonso then ran to Briatore and cried... MOMMA!!!!!!!  Momma got Trulli fired then

[BradSpeedMan 6]

Yes, as this article stated.. Laughable..

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/731481/Formula_18217s_newest_fastest_of_all_time_list_is_laughable/

[Sakae 0]

Thomas now stands on the side of morons. That's a surprise.

[lipstick79 0]

Study shows that. I have the redist lipstick- - an amiguous statement.
What data IS this based on? 
There is NO supporting EVIDENCE 2 the "claim" of this study.
Fastest driver is VERY ambiguous.
No evidence used, NOT even a pie chart - who ate all the pies were it Kimi, or did he stick 2 ice cream?