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On 10/8/2020 at 2:03 AM, KoolMonkey said:

helped improve the Honda package compared to the pitiful McLaren attempt

Red Bull HAS helped Honda SOO very much that, WILL drive Honda OUT of F1 AGAIN.
Mclaren brought Honda back through Ron.
However Honda did NOT perform as expected.
So Mclaren went for Renault reliability.
Torro Rosso JUMPED for the Honda package.
Together with Red Bull, has forced Honda OUT of F1 - AGAIN.
Mclaren saw that, NO longevity with Honda.

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Honda adopted BMW philosophy. Very late, but sounds familiar. Many are angry. I may stand alone, but I do applaud them for getting their priorities straight..

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Honda WILL B back again at some point.
Honda`s world wide reputation REQUIRES Honda 2 return.
It can`t sell lawnmowers and road cars as a quitter.
Who wants 2 buy a civic, from the manufacturer who keeps on quittin
Honda - the manufacturer who can NOT rise 2 the technical challenge

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What's with this contemptuous tone, @lipstick79? Honda is one of the most respected companies world wide. They may or may not return to F1 one day, assuming F1 will be still in business. I rather suspect Honda will, not so sure about F1. You know, Honda selling a lot of Civics world wide. Keeps them going. They do make from airplanes to lawnmowers and everything in between you can only dream about. I am not sure what's your problem. She is older than some British teams in F1, and still going strong, so I am not sure what's with that quitting cry. 

Renault left and came back. MB left and came back. So, Why pick on Honda?  

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1 hour ago, Sakae said:

They may or may not return to F1 one day

Indeed they may or may not

Historically, they R more likely 2 return than NOT (return).

 

 

 

 

 

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Formula 2 team boss Trevor Carlin reckons Mick Schumacher is a shoe-in to race in Formula 1 with Alfa Romeo next season, and deservedly so, but Yuki Tsunoda is quicker.

Sounds like new promissing prospects are on their way. I am expectantly happy for both young men.

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Date 2020.10.14   Time 19:13 (UTC)
2 day race weekend?

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Vettel, however, says: "The two-day weekend affected the work of the drivers much less than the work of the engineers. They did not have the opportunity to compare different settings and how the tyres were working.

"We were also unable to work on new parts," he explained.

Great men think alike? I have my say, we would return to nineties regulations on car development. Vettel makes as usual a lot of sense.

I am not sure how Hamilton and Bottas can think just about their comfort, or people around them. However, what about other teams who do need to work on and improve the vehicle? How long before we will have several categories in F1. One of them will be group of Ph.D. behind computers. Testing facilities will be transformed into parking lots. And drivers? I wonder if the incident with Hulk will give some teams ideas, and to make F1 even cheaper, and they will call on drivers 3 hrs before qualifications.. 

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OT

Y R Honda soo desperate for a Japanese driver?
The driver will ALSO have 2 perform - it can`t just B marketin
The Brazillians did NOT go nuts about Senna.
Y R the Japanese NOT interested in F1, and if they R - they R NOT anythin special - I`m thinkin Takuma Sato 

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Date 2020.10.15   Time 20:17 (UTC)

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Daimler to slash Mercedes F1 budget

Here is the line representing in reality my long standing argument I've applied against mandatory F1 budget (which I despise with all my being). F1 never been a socialist club, and shouldn't start now. The quote is an economical concept I want to see in the F1. Teams act on their own. You have money, spend it as much as you need to. You don't have money, buckle up, or get out.  Don't pretend that some arbitrarily selected spending limit solves anything of substance.

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42 minutes ago, Sakae said:

buckle up, or get out

U have got 2 B in it 2 win it.
OK - a LOT will probably NOT win but, sponsors STILL seen.
A fizzy drink, KNOWS the value of world exposure - it gives U wings

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10 hours ago, lipstick79 said:

A fizzy drink, KNOWS the value of world exposure - it gives U wings

Do you mean indoctrinate (brainwashing methodology) through constantly repeating "it's good for you"? Very popular approach in some countries. Tabac industry for years were repeating their mantra, and people got hooked, so it works. F1 was on that wagon as well, and lives today without any remorse or punitive measures imposed upon them. At this point I should perhaps disclose that I don't smoke, and I haven't drunk or taste one gulp of Red Bull yet regardless how many teams RB owns, but then, I try to stay away from any drinks which sell in cans, and RB is not going to convince me I should have change of mind.

Edit: Well I do buy occasionally warm coffee in a can when I travel in Japan. Plenty vending machines all over.

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Date 2020.10.19   Time 9:54 (UTC)

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Who will win the fascinating race for P4 in the drivers' championship this season?

Senior writer

Lawrence Barrett

In my decades of observing F1 inside and out, I've not seen too many (if any) such headlines yet. So, excitement begins in midfield? Is it good?

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43 minutes ago, Sakae said:

In my decades of observing F1 inside and out, I've not seen too many (if any) such headlines

Makes me think of the Schummy dominace era.
He DID have realistic challenges in that V8 period tho.
Mika Hakkinen, `98 & `99 for Mclaren Mercedes
Damon Hill, and JV puttin in a title each at Williams Renault
 

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23 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

Makes me think of the Schummy dominace era.
He DID have realistic challenges in that V8 period tho.
Mika Hakkinen, `98 & `99 for Mclaren Mercedes
Damon Hill, and JV puttin in a title each at Williams Renault
 

True.

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Hamilton IS winning against FORMER WDC`S who R NOT hungry - and have since left F1 2 pursue other challenges eg Alonso.
Though Alonso IS comin back - MANY consider Alonso 2 B the BETTER driver.
He HAS proved winnin OTHER motor sport titles, and is in pursuit of motorsports triple crown.
Acceptin that unlikely 2 add further F1 WDC`S .  Instead provin HIS drivin ability.  Schumey IS limited 2 F1 success ONLY.
Alonso HAS won Le Mans TWICE F1 WDC TWICE.
 

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1 hour ago, lipstick79 said:

Hamilton IS winning against FORMER WDC`S who R NOT hungry - and have since left F1 2 pursue other challenges eg Alonso.
Though Alonso IS comin back - MANY consider Alonso 2 B the BETTER driver.
He HAS proved winnin OTHER motor sport titles, and is in pursuit of motorsports triple crown.
Acceptin that unlikely 2 add further F1 WDC`S .  Instead provin HIS drivin ability.  Schumey IS limited 2 F1 success ONLY.
Alonso HAS won Le Mans TWICE F1 WDC TWICE.
 

While we are piling up Schumacher's shortcomings as an F1 racer, in your account you forgot to add, that Schumacher also doesn't speak Esperanto, whereas Alonso... of wait, he also doesn't speak that language. So, let's leave it out and keep only stuff which diminishes Schumacher's achievement. What do you think? How much more irrelevant stuff we could squeeze in to make the German racer look really bad? You seems to be very good coming up with new criteria how to judge a man after it's all over.

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1 hour ago, Sakae said:

how to judge a man after it's all over.

The end IS just the beginning. 
Alonso achieved his WDC`S - then left (the end). 
Then achievin motorsport titles - Le mans.
The ONLY positive with Schumy`s F1 WDC`S is - he gained titles with MORE than 1 team
ALL of Hamilton`s titles HAVE been powered by Mercedes.

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Date 2020.10.20   Time 8:38 (UTC)

Two day racing weekends is picking up strength. I am surprised over F1 inability to find some beneficial activities like 4 hrs of testing of new developments (those who want to), and then letting new driver-candidates to develop a feel for F1 car, for a few hours. etc.

I do understand sitting around wastefully is costly and no fun, but I am (still) not on board with the thrust of all developments done fully digitally on computers with results of theoretical work verified only later in qualification and races. My old school attitudes are coming to the front, that's probably true, but I like to see race-ready cars on Sunday, as opposed to observing bunch of experimental lab mouses dying on track with drivers commenting - it didn't work. Somebody made mistake on a computer and we caught up on that only today.

How cheap is that? How sponsors will feel about it?  

I wonder when someone will have guts to stand up and say what we all know to be truth that cost cutting drive has led us into abyss. There used to be a rule that complexity of technology is proportional to the effort you need to invest into it. Is that idea now obsolete and you get much for nothing or very little of sweat? I think we could see some changes in the rule book if we place Kim Jong-un to lead F1 and let his crowd to deal with some difficult heads in the F1 establishment.

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Date 2020.10.21   Time 5:49 (UTC)

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STEINER: MAYBE WE COULD COMBINE TESTING AND RACES

Mr. Steiner must be reading some forums... which is good! 

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Date 2020.10.21   Time 7:41 (UTC)

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Wolff said that the sport was a good showcase for hybrid technology, but explained that it does not tell the story as well as it could.

I believe we are not telling the hybrid story well enough,” Wolff said.

“With 50% thermal efficiency, and the complexity and technology that exists in these cars with the energy recovery with kinetic energy or exhaust gases, the batteries that we’re using and the technology within them, we are a pretty good showcase for hybrid technology.

The next generation of power units, whenever they come, will lend even more to sustainable energy recovery and sustainable propulsion systems in the future.

Well, some people in the F1 have no interest to promote hybrids. In fact, "shooting from the hip experts" promoting perception that hybrids are root cause of most, if not all F1 problems; idea I reject. I think full story of F1 as a whole hasn't been told as it should had been. One can start thinking when Grand Prix concept became a honey pot full of golden bars, replacing sporting interests, and go from there, whilst realizing accumulation of one misdirection after another for the benefit of commercial interest. Can this be corrected? No, unless commercial interest takes back seat to sport, something I don't see happening any time soon.

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Some suggested years ago making Fridays as a testing day. Let them run from 10am to 4pm and put in as many laps as they like. Let the young drivers get a chance. Let the pay drivers throw their hat in the ring. Heck, give them an extra engine or two to be used only for Fridays.

F1 is stupidest "sport" in this world. In what other sport are the contestants prevented from practising! It's flat out nuts.

I know I'm probably in a small minority, but I want to see a top 10 shootout, where each driver gets one flying lap. Like back in the mid 00s. I'm sick to death of drivers complaining about being held up in the most boring qualifying sessions in all of motorsport. I propose, the order of the top 10 (Q3) is determined by random. So nothing stupid like reverse grids or sprinklers on the track, but at least a little random to try and spice things up.

I'm so damn disappointed in Todt and Brawn. I had such high hopes they would fix F1 or at least try to. However the stupid Concorde agreement is probably to blame too. This requirement for unanimous decisions is killing a sport that's on life support.

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KM, I haven't followed up, but wasn't there noise about Liberty changing the vote from 100 to 60% consent?

On the other issue, couple of years back Alonso admitted that McLaren and Honda were actually using race time as car testing time (for lack of having any other opportunity). Now I fully understand that situation, and I would do it as well, but how is that fair to team's sponsors, to team's fans, and so on. F1 management really in any other corporation for such performance would be shinning shoes in a basement by now.   

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4 hours ago, KoolMonkey said:

Some suggested years ago making Fridays as a testing day. Let them run from 10am to 4pm and put in as many laps as they like. Let the young drivers get a chance. Let the pay drivers throw their hat in the ring. Heck, give them an extra engine or two to be used only for Fridays.

F1 is stupidest "sport" in this world. In what other sport are the contestants prevented from practising! It's flat out nuts.

I know I'm probably in a small minority, but I want to see a top 10 shootout, where each driver gets one flying lap. Like back in the mid 00s. I'm sick to death of drivers complaining about being held up in the most boring qualifying sessions in all of motorsport. I propose, the order of the top 10 (Q3) is determined by random. So nothing stupid like reverse grids or sprinklers on the track, but at least a little random to try and spice things up.

I'm so damn disappointed in Todt and Brawn. I had such high hopes they would fix F1 or at least try to. However the stupid Concorde agreement is probably to blame too. This requirement for unanimous decisions is killing a sport that's on life support.

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But, but, but, UR black 
I am NOT a Hamilton fan.
He HAS spent his life, fighting for equality., BLM ...
Has he flipped it, and used bein black to his advantage??
Would Hamilton have achieved the things he has if, he were white ethnicity?

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Date 2020.10.26   Time 13:13 (UTC)

Ferrari can't stop Red Bull engine says Wolff

I would say this is very dangerous proposition for Ferrari. 

  1. Ferrari has currently weakest drive line from them all.
  2. New development may or may not meet target performance next year, and if needed, they cannot do anything about it..
  3. Freezing developments on Honda, Renault and Ferrari will keep them all behind MB.

I am not surprised Wolff likes the idea.

My idea:

  • Set limits on engine parameters (about where MB is now), so MB will ultimately say - there is nothing more for us to do. We have met the targets.
  • Let them all loose and on their way to meet the same targets.
  • Don't repeat mistakes of 2014 (idiotic token system).
  • Periodically check the compliance.

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