Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team

[BradSpeedMan 6]

11 minutes ago, Sakae said:

Some say he shouldn't come out from retirement at all.

B4 his move to Merc?

[Sakae 0]

1 minute ago, BradSpeedMan said:

B4 his move to Merc?

Actually both, in my recollection. Concerns were about him being dumped into very much different environment from Ferrari, and that will not end up well. Some snotty English technical staff conducted undeclared hostilities towards him from day one. This all was in print. Since I was, and still am a fan of Michael, I did follow those kind of news. Today I am just tired of it.

[BradSpeedMan 6]

What do you make of this Sakae?

http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/765847/Elliott_to_replace_Allison_as_Mercedes_F1_Technical_Director/

[Sakae 0]

40 minutes ago, BradSpeedMan said:

What do you make of this Sakae?

http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/765847/Elliott_to_replace_Allison_as_Mercedes_F1_Technical_Director/

I have to be careful with my response. It should not be surprise to those around me, that I am not an admirer of Allison. Based on publicly available bits and pieces of information, explicit or implied, and observing his impact over several years on products under his care, I think he was overrated and not as good as media tried to portrayed him.

I think the move might mean following two things. He is demoted without stating so, and he will fade into background, or, he was moved aside for reasons stated (not a big loss), and he will be groomed on organisation side as potential replacement of Wolff. Maybe he will be better there (however I doubt that too; probably another Binotto).

Do you remember just a few weeks back we had this discussion already, and I've told you that car was basically brainchild of people before Allison has taken his job. He was riding somebody else's coctails. It is only now when specs were changed, and as at Ferrari, this year car has suddenly issues. It is his baby. So much for that.

We have to wait, what this all means. There is no other way. We know Torger wanted out of this daily grind, but for some reason he was convinced to stay. I was always wondering what actually went on in that room which ended him saying OK, I stay.

[BradSpeedMan 6]

"Retaining Allison in a senior leadership role could be viewed as part of a wider master plan to prepare him for the possibility of becoming team principal in the future when Wolff eventually decides the time is right to stand aside."

https://www.crash.net/f1/feature/974911/1/what-allison-s-evolutionary-f1-role-swap-means-mercedes

[Sakae 0]

1 hour ago, BradSpeedMan said:

"Retaining Allison in a senior leadership role could be viewed as part of a wider master plan to prepare him for the possibility of becoming team principal in the future when Wolff eventually decides the time is right to stand aside."

https://www.crash.net/f1/feature/974911/1/what-allison-s-evolutionary-f1-role-swap-means-mercedes

Well, we will find out. Right now his new role sort of vague. As in my earlier (above) post, I thought too he might be groomed for taking Wolff's position, and I am sure English media are trying to put best face on it, but there are some discrepancies in that potential promotion I've noticed.

Forgot where, but in one article Allison claimed he needs and wants rest, which is why he is stepping away from his current role. Well OK, but if he wants Wolff's job, I am not sure how restive that role is. Second thing which seems out of place in his path to TP role, if he wants to be groomed as Torger's successor, he needs to be attached to Wolff's side, tagging alone with him day and night. Being closed somewhere back in the basement office and claim you are learning to be a leader is funny way to do it. So I don't know what's with him.

There is a job opening however. When time comes to replace current PU with new generation (in 4 years?), that should be planned right now. I thought however that job should go to Cowell, not Allison, so I still don't know what's going on. Allison is an aero guy; Cowell is needed back. Admittedly there is the job focused on scaling back current operations to compliance with new rules. That function requires certain know-how, but I would say you need to be ready for it. There is no learning period. (You have to be fully "groomed" for it already).

[lipstick79 0]

If nothin changes, 
nothin changes

Just wear a different cap,
with a different title
> Nothin changes

A fish IS a fish - whatever U call it
> a fish WITHOUT eyes IS a
fsh

Can U see ? !!

[BradSpeedMan 6]

18 hours ago, Sakae said:

Well, we will find out. Right now his new role sort of vague. As in my earlier (above) post, I thought too he might be groomed for taking Wolff's position, and I am sure English media are trying to put best face on it, but there are some discrepancies in that potential promotion I've noticed.

Forgot where, but in one article Allison claimed he needs and wants rest, which is why he is stepping away from his current role. Well OK, but if he wants Wolff's job, I am not sure how restive that role is. Second thing which seems out of place in his path to TP role, if he wants to be groomed as Torger's successor, he needs to be attached to Wolff's side, tagging alone with him day and night. Being closed somewhere back in the basement office and claim you are learning to be a leader is funny way to do it. So I don't know what's with him.

There is a job opening however. When time comes to replace current PU with new generation (in 4 years?), that should be planned right now. I thought however that job should go to Cowell, not Allison, so I still don't know what's going on. Allison is an aero guy; Cowell is needed back. Admittedly there is the job focused on scaling back current operations to compliance with new rules. That function requires certain know-how, but I would say you need to be ready for it. There is no learning period. (You have to be fully "groomed" for it already).

some more analysis...

 

https://the-race.com/formula-1/what-mercedes-major-f1-technical-department-reshuffle-means/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Today-On-The-Race&utm_campaign=Campaign-2021-04-09&vgo_ee=Nm7rf6A%2FJb9y9AmP42aWVUzkASpiHornD%2Fz2wZTd1jg%3D

[Sakae 0]

1 hour ago, BradSpeedMan said:

some more analysis...

 

https://the-race.com/formula-1/what-mercedes-major-f1-technical-department-reshuffle-means/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Today-On-The-Race&utm_campaign=Campaign-2021-04-09&vgo_ee=Nm7rf6A%2FJb9y9AmP42aWVUzkASpiHornD%2Fz2wZTd1jg%3D

Well, I don't know, but I have seen this movie once before, when Sergio Marchionne has done almost exactly the same with him and about same words of explanation. I also do recall how it ended. (Not well, seeing his car on the track, just if you wonder..) If you like him, there is no harm to see this move positively.

I am however more attracted to people who have proven their authentic results of their own (like Andreas Seidl) behind them. I am not sure what will happen to AS at McLaren (I don't trust that organisation much as being reliable partner),  but that's the guy I would like on my team.

[BradSpeedMan 6]

Interesting Read

http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/766620/INSIGHT_Heres_what_Mercedes_does_better_than_anyone_else/

[Sakae 0]

4 hours ago, BradSpeedMan said:

Interesting Read

http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/766620/INSIGHT_Heres_what_Mercedes_does_better_than_anyone_else/

A lot of self-patting on shoulders. I am not too impressed. Fact remains, as I understand it, fundamentals to recent success of MB were laid as foundation in 2010 onwards. Blood and tears were commonplace long before any one current names were known to anyone. One needs to realise there weren't any significant changes of specs, until now. Allison and alike had to make just sure they will not screw up what Brawn & Co. laid out for them many years ago. MB actually worked on h-engines for road cars well before Cowell got involved. (So was Honda apparently; MB succeeded, Honda as well, but about 10 years later). 

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3 hours ago, Sakae said:

recent success of MB were laid as foundation in 2010 onwards

Whilst I agree with this theory, and idea.
However there is a BIG inconsistency for any realisin.
The rules 

[Sakae 0]

Koles on MB, Wolff, Stroll and much more.

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“The structures [at MB] were all established by Ross Brawn,” 

Exactly. Confirmed someone who know. Check.

I am not very fond of Mr. Koles, never had been, but he said - per article - a lot of things I do agree with. He also confirms my dark "fears" that Seb might have committed a mistake after all by signing for AM. I am not fearing Wolff, but the owner, who is in for i) son's fame, and ii) making money. Sport factor was set aside by many people long time ago when CVC and alike got foot between door.-