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Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prémio De Portugal 2020

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Race: 2020 / 10 / 25

Both MB's drivers decided there is no need for Friday's practice. My suggestion to them, why not sit the race on sidelines, so rest of us can have some fun?

Do Testing Engineers agree with them (or it doesn't matter)?

Alonso might genuinely disagree with MB drivers (he actually wants more testing, and so do I).

Friday - if both drivers couldn't be bothered, how about let juniors to train with T-cars, and show to sponsors some courtesy in promoting their products?

Race - are we going through motions or are there any surprises left this year?  

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Date 2020.10.22   Time 10:36 (UTC)

Hulk on standby just in case RP calls. (Makes one wonder why that is needed, if all is fine in the land of RP). Looks like communication between Stroll's family and a team's principal Otmar Szafnauer is not very good, as junior made most likely a liar from him, because Otmar never had trouble to communicate clearly; until now. A sign of things to come? Otmar put brave face on it, but inside I think he was boiling, I imagine. FiA right away was in hurry to close existing loopholes regarding COVID 19 procedures. Can't those guys do anything right first time? It's always catching up.  

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Date 2020.10.23   Time 13:19 (UTC)

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Friday Practice Session 1
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Valtteri Bottas Finland Mercedes 1:18.410
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes 1:18.749
3. Max Verstappen Netherlands Red Bull Racing Honda 1:19.191
4. Charles Leclerc Monaco Ferrari 1:19.309
5. Alexander Albon Thailand Red Bull Racing Honda 1:19.365
6. Carlos Sainz Spain McLaren-Renault 1:19.441
7. Sergio Perez Mexico Racing Point-Mercedes 1:19.907
8. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 1:19.954
9. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Renault 1:20.058
10. Pierre Gasly France AlphaTauri-Honda 1:20.124
11. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 1:20.200
12. Lando Norris Britain McLaren-Renault 1:20.207
13. Daniil Kvyat Russia AlphaTauri-Honda 1:20.278
14. Kevin Magnussen Denmark Haas-Ferrari 1:20.846
15. Lance Stroll Canada Racing Point-Mercedes 1:20.954
16. Antonio Giovinazzi Italy Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 1:21.009
17. Romain Grosjean France Haas-Ferrari 1:21.169
18. George Russell Britain Williams-Mercedes 1:21.374
19. Esteban Ocon France Renault 1:21.673
20. Nicholas Latifi Canada Williams-Mercedes 1:22.054
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Verstappen stuck to hard tyres but shot up the leaderboard late on to take third overall, 0.781s slower than Bottas. The Dutchman was one of a number to spin on the new track surface, while his team mate Alex Albon was fifth, complaining of instability at low speed.

Yes, people spin, whereas only Vettel makes mistakes. New normal.

Track looks interesting. I do like it.

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Date 2020.10.23   Time 15:43 (UTC)

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Friday Practice Session 2
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Valtteri Bottas Finland Mercedes 1:17.940
2. Max Verstappen Netherlands Red Bull Racing Honda 1:18.535
3. Lando Norris Britain McLaren-Renault 1:18.743
4. Charles Leclerc Monaco Ferrari 1:18.838
5. Carlos Sainz Spain McLaren-Renault 1:19.113
6. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 1:19.175
7. Pierre Gasly France AlphaTauri-Honda 1:19.178
8. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes 1:19.308
9. Esteban Ocon France Renault 1:19.496
10. Alexander Albon Thailand Red Bull Racing Honda 1:19.643
11. George Russell Britain Williams-Mercedes 1:19.821
12. Sergio Perez Mexico Racing Point-Mercedes 1:19.901
13. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Renault 1:19.987
14. Nicholas Latifi Canada Williams-Mercedes 1:20.465
15. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 1:20.490
16. Kevin Magnussen Denmark Haas-Ferrari 1:20.680
17. Daniil Kvyat Russia AlphaTauri-Honda 1:20.729
18. Romain Grosjean France Haas-Ferrari 1:20.867
19. Lance Stroll Canada Racing Point-Mercedes 1:20.983
20. Antonio Giovinazzi Italy Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 1:21.396

 

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Date 2020.10.24   Time 9:04 (UTC)

Regarding this new on venue track, a lot of positive feedback is heard. I like track angulation, perhaps only because we race maybe far too many flat tracks. The only concern, expressed I think it by Brown, if my recollection is correct, was about potential overtaking difficulties. Fine, he might be right, but don't we have this on majority of tracks? It might not be therefore problem with the track, but something else, and we all know what it is. I would like to see F1 return here next year as well, and in 2026 definitely just to test it under new regulations.

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Date 2020.10.24   Time 11:12 (UTC)

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Saturday Practice Session 3
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Valtteri Bottas Finland Mercedes 1:16.654
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes 1:16.680
3. Max Verstappen Netherlands Red Bull Racing Honda 1:16.812
4. Pierre Gasly France AlphaTauri-Honda 1:16.930
5. Alexander Albon Thailand Red Bull Racing Honda 1:17.117
6. Charles Leclerc Monaco Ferrari 1:17.229
7. Carlos Sainz Spain McLaren-Renault 1:17.238
8. Sergio Perez Mexico Racing Point-Mercedes 1:17.297
9. Lando Norris Britain McLaren-Renault 1:17.478
10. Esteban Ocon France Renault 1:17.666
11. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 1:17.685
12. Daniil Kvyat Russia AlphaTauri-Honda 1:17.720
13. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 1:17.922
14. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Renault 1:17.935
15. George Russell Britain Williams-Mercedes 1:18.032
16. Lance Stroll Canada Racing Point-Mercedes 1:18.100
17. Antonio Giovinazzi Italy Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 1:18.201
18. Kevin Magnussen Denmark Haas-Ferrari 1:18.287
19. Nicholas Latifi Canada Williams-Mercedes 1:18.397
20. Romain Grosjean France Haas-Ferrari 1:18.454

Is Ferrari in better place now? I will wait for the answer a day or so. Could be this track is good for them.

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Date 2020.10.24   Time 14:41 (UTC)

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Saturday Qualifying Session
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes 1:16.652
2. Valtteri Bottas Finland Mercedes 1:16.754
3. Max Verstappen Netherlands Red Bull Racing Honda 1:16.904
4. Charles Leclerc Monaco Ferrari 1:17.090
5. Sergio Perez Mexico Racing Point-Mercedes 1:17.222
6. Alexander Albon Thailand Red Bull Racing Honda 1:17.437
7. Carlos Sainz Spain McLaren-Renault 1:17.520
8. Lando Norris Britain McLaren-Renault 1:17.525
9. Pierre Gasly France AlphaTauri-Honda 1:17.803
10. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Renault No Time
Q2
11. Esteban Ocon France Renault 1:17.614
12. Lance Stroll Canada Racing Point-Mercedes 1:17.626
13. Daniil Kvyat Russia AlphaTauri-Honda 1:17.728
14. George Russell Britain Williams-Mercedes 1:17.788
15. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 1:17.919
Q1
16. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 1:18.201
17. Antonio Giovinazzi Italy Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 1:18.323
18. Romain Grosjean France Haas-Ferrari 1:18.364
19. Kevin Magnussen Denmark Haas-Ferrari 1:18.508
20. Nicholas Latifi Canada Williams-Mercedes 1:18.777

Bottas must feel deflated. I cannot imagine how he feels. LeClerc  has perfect feel for this car, while I am not sure what's going on with Seb, but this year is probably his worst in his whole F1 career. Ocon - not sure what's going on there, but he was prime candidate for top spot once.

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I feel for bottas.. but then again, he's against a world champion who is very smart to only show his hand in Q3, while he lets bottas collect any goodwill point he can between Thursday Friday and Saturday.

Outstanding job by Russell! It would be unfortunate to not have him on the grid. He truly deserves that seat alongside Hamilton.

Although I'm critical of Ferrari, I'm at loss of words for what happened in qualy with vettle. Good push by leclerc.

This track seems like a racers track where the man behind the wheel can add more than what they can on other tracks.. somehow I see a Verstappen win coming through.. but then againnnn.. there they are ... those 2 spoil-sport Mercedes.

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1 hour ago, blackpebel said:

Outstanding job by Russell! It would be unfortunate to not have him on the grid. He truly deserves that seat alongside Hamilton.

Bottas deliver`s MORE, so is MORE deservin of that seat alongside Hamilton.
Bottas IS, this era`s DC.  Probably NOT achieve as highly as Rosberg DID though, he IS a good fit.

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Date 2020.10.25   Time 15:50 (UTC)

Podium:

FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN GRANDE PRÉMIO DE PORTUGAL 2020

Race results

POSITION TIME POINTS
1  Lewis HAMILTON Mercedes 1:29:56.828 26
2  Valtteri BOTTAS Mercedes +25.592s 18
3  Max VERSTAPPEN Red Bull Racing +34.508s 15

Kimi is something else. What a guy.

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POS  DRIVER  NATIONALITY  ENTRANT  LAPS  TIME/RETIRE 
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 66 1h29m56.828
2. Valtteri Bottas Finland Mercedes GP 66 25.592
3. Max Verstappen Netherlands Red Bull-Honda 66 34.508
4. Charles Leclerc Monaco Ferrari 66 1m05.312
5. Pierre Gasly France AlphaTauri-Honda 65 1 Lap
6. Carlos Sainz Spain McLaren-Renault 65 1 Lap
7. Sergio Perez Mexico Racing Point-Mercedes  65 1 Lap
8. Estebon Ocon France Renault 65 1 Lap
9. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Renault 65 1 Lap
10. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 65 1 Lap
11. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 65 1 Lap
12. Alexander Albon Thailand Red Bull-Honda 65 1 Lap
13. Lando Norris Britain McLaren-Renault 65 1 Lap
14. George Russell Britain Williams-Mercedes 65 1 Lap
15. Antonio Giovinazzi  Italy Alfa Romeo-Ferrari 65 1 Lap
16. Romain Grosjean France Haas-Ferrari 65 1 Lap
17. Kevin Magnussen Denmark Haas-Ferrari 65 1 Lap
18. Nicholas Latifi Canada Williams-Mercedes 64 2 Laps
19. Daniil Kvyat Russia AlphaTauri-Honda 64 2 Laps
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R Lance Stroll Canada Racing Point-Mercedes  51 Retired

Who said overtaking will be difficult on this track. Having taken into consideration how many (too many) cars ended a lap down, overtaking is here certainly and sadly in that context possible. I am not going to repeat now reasons for this outrages situations and what has been said n-times already, to state obvious. Management of the F1 deserve  jointly 👎

I like the track. It was green, but next time get an F2 race in the morning, and F1 in afternoon, and it will be one of the iconic venues on the calendar. But first, fix the d*** regulations.

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2 hours ago, Sakae said:

Date 2020.10.25   Time 15:50 (UTC)

Podium:

FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN GRANDE PRÉMIO DE PORTUGAL 2020

Race results

POSITION TIME POINTS
1  Lewis HAMILTON Mercedes 1:29:56.828 26
2  Valtteri BOTTAS Mercedes +25.592s 18
3  Max VERSTAPPEN Red Bull Racing +34.508s 15

Kimi is something else. What a guy.

and yet, couldn't score a point...

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4 minutes ago, BradSpeedMan said:

and yet, couldn't score a point...

Not his fault, I believe. With what he had he has used it all quite well.

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2 hours ago, BradSpeedMan said:

and yet, couldn't score a point...

The final point went 2 the highly paid - finger boy, in the works Ferrari, which in reality WOULD B expected.
Kimi also with a highly paid Ferrari contract dumped 2 the sister team.
Ferrari HAS a bunch of highly talented, contracted drivers as well as a highly paid contracted driver - Vettel.
Though seats R limited.

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Says Max...

"I tried to stay out of trouble a bit, tried to settle down. Then I had Kimi behind me. "

"I was shocked about that because I thought:" Am I really going to… like, what's going on? " Kimi was flying, probably his rally driving helped him a bit in the first lap or something because that was pretty impressive. He must have been P6? But anyway, kept him behind, everything settled down," he concluded.

😂 Ah. Brilliant

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On 10/25/2020 at 3:29 PM, lipstick79 said:

Bottas deliver`s MORE, so is MORE deservin of that seat alongside Hamilton.
Bottas IS, this era`s DC.  Probably NOT achieve as highly as Rosberg DID though, he IS a good fit.

Would we really know what MORE actually is, unless we put someone else in that seat? For me, personally, 'deserving' would apply to someone who can compete neck to neck with Hamilton for a driver's championship. Bottas is deserving of that seat in Hamilton's eye, coz he doesn't want any competition from the other car in his garage. He has learned his lesson from Rosberg.

In my opinion, bottas is being used as a tool in a very convincing way.. The car they have is way too advanced compared to the rest of the field. They are literally toying with everyone.

Edited by blackpebel

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3 hours ago, blackpebel said:

Would we really know what MORE actually is, unless we put someone else in that seat?

NO NEED 2 do THAT - The Mercedes 1-2`s R evidence of, what more IS.
Y would U want 2 put somebody ELSE in there when the maximum IS already bein delivered - just 4 arguments sake ? !!
Qualifyin 1-2
Race finnish 1-2

We DO know what MORE actually IS - MAXIMUM
If it`s NOT broken, then DON`T fix it

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10 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

NO NEED 2 do THAT - The Mercedes 1-2`s R evidence of, what more IS.
Y would U want 2 put somebody ELSE in there when the maximum IS already bein delivered - just 4 arguments sake ? !!
Qualifyin 1-2
Race finnish 1-2

We DO know what MORE actually IS - MAXIMUM
If it`s NOT broken, then DON`T fix it

Why you ask?

1) Because I am Not Lewis Hamilton.. and for him, the current setup is providing enough for what he wants, and what his team needs.

2) Because I'm bored of NOT watching 2 guys competing for WINNING the races or championships, Like a lot of other fans of the sport. Lewis is definitely not winning based on pure skills, coz If I replace Lewis with lets say, Ricciardo in that Merc, Ric would be winning those races and championships.. And I would love to see more Shoeys!!

3) Coz after having white-washed his team mate, I think a driver like Russel, who has shown some serious credentials in the junior series, deserves a Top seat, but wont.. Coz Lewis wants bottas to stay as the team mate..

4) Merc is in there own league, and I want to see some Racing WITHIN that league, at the least!

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