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Fernando Alonso, Testing and Comeback

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Yet not a single person, ex-driver or pundit is calling for him to lose his seat, unlike Seb.

The hate against Seb is astonishing. You got all sorts of people, even DC whom I used to respect, claiming Seb won't even last a full year at AM... after only 1x race.

Alonso could come last all year long however, and the narrative will always be that he needs to be given a good car to shine. I don't think he should have come back, but don't hate on him for doing so. Kimi is performing just fine, so maybe Alonso will get better too.

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3 hours ago, KoolMonkey said:

Yet not a single person, ex-driver or pundit is calling for him to lose his seat, unlike Seb.

The hate against Seb is astonishing. You got all sorts of people, even DC whom I used to respect, claiming Seb won't even last a full year at AM... after only 1x race.

Alonso could come last all year long however, and the narrative will always be that he needs to be given a good car to shine. I don't think he should have come back, but don't hate on him for doing so. Kimi is performing just fine, so maybe Alonso will get better too.

Sebastian, if he wants to continue and have a seat offered, he doesn't need me to tell him that he has to get ahead. Whether that is possible at all is a good question. Defeatist comments heard from him and Otmar Szafnauer are rather suggestive that AM will probably drop this season and focus on tommoorrow. Car cannot be fixed for getting into top 5. What will happen with Vettel remains to be seen, but it doesn't look good.

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On 3/31/2021 at 6:37 AM, KoolMonkey said:

Yet not a single person, ex-driver or pundit is calling for him to lose his seat, unlike Seb.

Its hard to point a finger at someone,, who has not given you an opportunity to point a finger at them.

Plus he has had a decent outing in his first race after 2 years away from the sport, and a month after having a chunk of his jaw replaced, and sitting at home for 10 days to recover... On and off he has paid a lot of efforts to keep his skills sharp.. Its evident that he still has that hunger to compete.. Form is temporary, class is permanent.. Apart from being difficult at times outside the car, and not managing his professional relations well (The reason he gets the flak all around), its hard to point a finger at the relentless commitment alonso bring to racing when he's inside the car..

On 3/31/2021 at 6:37 AM, KoolMonkey said:

Alonso could come last all year long however, and the narrative will always be that he needs to be given a good car to shine.

I guess that's the same narrative that a section of the fans hold to defend Vettel today.. we keep forgetting during our assessments, how F1 has never really been fair to the Drivers championship, we all know that.. Actually, you can say that about almost 80% of the drivers who have raced in F1 over the last 20 Years, given a better car, they would have been better.. Apart from 05,06,07 and 08.. Each year had a constructor that was more dominant as compared to its rivals..

As Vettel once said, if you are a good driver, you should not have a problem adjusting to the car that has been given to you.. This notion that Alonso has had cars built to his liking is kinda misplaced. Its unfortunate that its difficult for some people to accept how good Alonso is at adapting to the equipment given to him. All those years that he has faired well against his teammates, and excelled in other categories, it was not just because the car was made to his liking, it had a lot to do with how he was able to better adapt to the car compared to his teammate.. This trait of his is completely overlooked, at-least by this section of the internet, for whatever reasons.. 

On 3/31/2021 at 6:37 AM, KoolMonkey said:

after only 1x race.

Yep.. I agree... it would not be fair to judge the whole Vettel situation this soon.. and some comments are very surprising indeed. But honestly, the rust that vettel shows to have built up seems too thick, to a point that some are suggesting it is unrecoverable. Its unfortunate, but Its upto vettel to shake it off, and get on with it...

I would personally wait for a few more races to gage Vettel, and how he gets through this..

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6 hours ago, blackpebel said:

As Vettel once said, if you are a good driver, you should not have a problem adjusting to the car that has been given to you.. This notion that Alonso has had cars built to his liking is kinda misplaced. Its unfortunate that its difficult for some people to accept how good Alonso is at adapting to the equipment given to him. All those years that he has faired well against his teammates, and excelled in other categories, it was not just because the car was made to his liking, it had a lot to do with how he was able to better adapt to the car compared to his teammate.. This trait of his is completely overlooked, at-least by this section of the internet, for whatever reasons.. 

It's not a notion bp. It's a fact. He's draw attention with political games over to his side of the garage. Hope he has learned from that

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21 minutes ago, BradSpeedMan said:

It's not a notion bp. It's a fact. He's draw attention with political games over to his side of the garage.

Hmm. I can't deny that completely to be honest.. he's been a demanding diva..

But this notion that the whole car is built FOR him, is kinda exaggerated by how well he has always adapted to the cars compared to his teammates. It's come to a point that people relate this to him having Built BOTH the cars to his liking, THAT is not accurate, that's not how a design philosophy for a car works..

This year's car was built around Ricciardo and Ocon. In the Abu Dhabi test, he was almost equal to both of them, maybe a few Milliseconds better infact..

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On 3/31/2021 at 2:07 AM, KoolMonkey said:

even DC whom I used to respect, claiming Seb won't even last a full year at AM... after only 1x race.

Bring that respect BACK.
It DOES appear that DC is NOT incorrect.
KM U have 2 realise that F1 is , a show - Bernie`s words
Seb IS loosin his marketin power, whilst at AM - He SHOULD have been doin a Bond.  His management have BADLY advised him.

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On 3/31/2021 at 12:13 AM, blackpebel said:

This guy is stuck in a rut like since ever..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/48652719
DOUBLE Le Man`s victories IS hardly stuck in a rut.
If bein a winner & champion IS a rut then.  That IS a GOOD rut 2 B stuck IN.

On the way to motorsports tripple crown.
This Alonso guy IS performin whilst, IN this "rut".

Edited by lipstick79

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2 hours ago, BradSpeedMan said:

It's not a notion bp. It's a fact. He's draw attention with political games over to his side of the garage. Hope he has learned from that

This issue has been confirmed by former staff. What is kinda misplaced is the never-ending trust by his fans in all good and beautiful around this driver, despite various reports how divisive, and difficult it is to work with him. Even Hamilton touched on the same issues when asked why he never wants to be Alonso's teammate again.

People should do little more research.

 

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3 hours ago, blackpebel said:

Hmm. I can't deny that completely to be honest.. he's been a demanding diva..

But this notion that the whole car is built FOR him, is kinda exaggerated by how well he has always adapted to the cars compared to his teammates. It's come to a point that people relate this to him having Built BOTH the cars to his liking, THAT is not accurate, that's not how a design philosophy for a car works..

This year's car was built around Ricciardo and Ocon. In the Abu Dhabi test, he was almost equal to both of them, maybe a few Milliseconds better infact..

Of course he influences car development. The car built for him was clear to see in the Alonso/Kimi Ferrari year. Kimi, with all his experience, could'nt drive the thing

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2 hours ago, Sakae said:

Wow.. this is a good article Sakae.. good read..

This further gives a proof of how relentlessly sharp Alonso is at adjusting his driving style with the need of the moment..

I'm assuming this trait of his comes probably from not having the right finances since childhood to get a well settled kart to practice on.. where he has somehow adjusted himself over and over with every new machine he got on his way to f1.. but in all the series up to F1, there is minimal difference between the equipment everyone uses.. it's just F1 where the difference between cars from one constructor to the other is huge, and ultimately the car makes a difference on who wins the championship, no matter how good driving skills could be..

..For the same reason.. I personally think Seb outperformed everyone in 2009 and Ham in 2012.. without reaching the top of the championship.. unfortunate, but THAT is F1.

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On 3/31/2021 at 2:07 AM, KoolMonkey said:

so maybe Alonso will get better to

U can`t reach an old dog, new tricks.  Is the sayin.
How can anybody B better than best?  
Alonso reached the pinacle and IS widenin the scope.
MSc and Seb ONLY achieved their greatness IN F1.  Alonso HAS achieved IN motorsport.
The SAME tricks just in a different format.
Good look 2 him on his quest. 

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8 hours ago, lipstick79 said:

U can`t reach an old dog, new tricks.  Is the sayin.

On the contrary, the old dog thinks that he still has a lot of new tricks to learn..

http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/764931/Alonso_delivers_brutally_honest_assessment_of_F1_return_debut/

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4 hours ago, blackpebel said:

On the contrary, the old dog thinks that he still has a lot of new tricks to learn.

Can U read, it does NOT say that at all.
"I think there is a lot of room to improve from my side."
It is NOT new tricks, just "rusty" and out of practise - nothin about new tricks

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4 minutes ago, blackpebel said:

Thinking about your life in a fast lane in every moment you are awake is not unique to Alonso. The article is to certain degree redundant. Such state of mind has been confirmed and re-confirmed by many drivers before.

I still think that three race weekends in succession is a burden for teams, racers, and perhaps not too liking of fans as well, but long gaps between races is also no good, because then we come across all kind of articles such as this one is. Proper news cycle is 1.5 days (said an expert). When news became business, and broadcast never stops as we have it today, then we get opinions and trash as fillers for absence of newsworthy material. No wonder people distrust CNN and similar outlets. F1 should learn from mistakes of others.

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On 1/18/2021 at 8:25 PM, blackpebel said:

So even if you're not an alonso fan, you're an alonso fan?

Actually that makes perfect sense. 

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So even if you're not an alonso fan, you're an alonso fan?

This sentence has its advantages, namely, if you read it backwards, it still says the same thing. Choices are always good.  

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12 hours ago, Ruslan said:

Actually that makes perfect sense. 

Aye.. Indeed.

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On 4/7/2021 at 2:45 PM, Sakae said:

When news became business, and broadcast never stops as we have it today, then we get opinions and trash as fillers for absence of newsworthy material.

Judgements are just perceptions.

Not only of those who write such columns with their own perspective, but also of those who read and approve/disapprove of them with their own pre-judgements.

The choice of categorizing a certain news as worthy or unworthy also comes with its own set of preferences.

And in today's world, you can simply get away with blaming the tailor if a pant does not fit your own waist, regardless of whether it was made for you or not..

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2 hours ago, blackpebel said:

Judgements are just perceptions.

Not only of those who write such columns with their own perspective, but also of those who read and approve/disapprove of them with their own pre-judgements.

That IS a perception.
blackebel has an opinion.  Right or wrong, that IS his opinion.

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On 3/31/2021 at 2:07 AM, KoolMonkey said:

 

Alonso could come last all year long however, and the narrative will always be that he needs to be given a good car to shine.

That does NOT matter, if Alonso  DID come last all year long.
It would STILL B consistent with, a successful return 2 F1
Probably NOT the successful return Alonso IS seeking.  Though FINISHING last all year.  Would B a success.
It could also B improved.  Which WOULD require ANOTHER year.

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There is a lot of nonsense appearing on these pages lately. 

Theory of judgement and perception teases various philosophers for ages since age of Descartes, if not earlier. Perhaps some basic definitions could help. Terms are available everywhere, as long as you are willing to look for them, instead just filling void with trash between real news.

Definition:

  • Perception refers to the way in which you sense of a situation.
  • Judgement refers to the way in which you make decisions after analysing and evaluating your perceptions.

Sequence:

  • Perception occurs before judgment.
  • Judgement occurs after perception.

Classification:

  • Perception can happen through the five senses or the intuition of a person.
  • Judgement evaluates information through a logical and impersonal process or personal beliefs or morality.

It doesn't hurt to stick just with facts.

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17 minutes ago, Sakae said:

It doesn't hurt to stick just with facts

I C that U R already familiar with Google 4 facts ^^^
Other search engines R available

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