Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2021 D/T 2021.09.10 12:37 CEST Quote Vettel admits 2022 contract not confirmed Fri, 10 September 2021, 10:00 At this point I am not convinced anymore hold up is Vettel's potential replacement, whoever that might be. (It was reported - more like rumour - that Alonso allegedly refused AM's offer.) There is nobody left available in whom AM might be interested to replace Vettel. I've changed my mind, and I think haggling is either about money, or new contract length. This or that, or probably both. If Seb says I am not accepting your offer and I am rather retiring, will Hulk suddenly get a job back? I don't see too many other options for AM. There is one crazy idea - in speculative terms - Stroll was interested in Hamilton. Is it possible that Vettel was offered merely 1 year more (2022), and Hamilton will move over to play Bond in 2023? One cannot say that cannot happen. I don't see Hamilton driving for MB much longer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2021 D/T 2021.09.11 07:08 CEST Quote “We’re talking to each other,” Vettel said. “I really enjoy working with the team. Vettel is one of very few people in the F1 about whom I believe are either speaking the truth, or do not saying anything. His assurance should be then good enough for me to trust, that he has found internal peace with himself after that horrid last year. Now, where is that piece of paper which needs to be signed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted September 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Sakae said: D/T 2021.09.11 07:08 CEST Vettel is one of very few people in the F1 about whom I believe are either speaking the truth, or do not saying anything. His assurance should be then good enough for me to trust, that he has found internal peace with himself after that horrid last year. Now, where is that piece of paper which needs to be signed... I have'nt seen him so happy in a loooonnnggg time. If he drives few more years, hope AM can give him a "capable" car Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2021 Just now, BradSpeedMan said: I have'nt seen him so happy in a loooonnnggg time. If he drives few more years, hope AM can give him a "capable" car Copy that. The thing is, today you have 3 cars on a lead lap, and others being fractions apart in performance. One slip, and drop in race ranking could be really significant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2021 D/T 2021.09.12 12:59 CEST Quote Aston Martin and Vettel are still reluctant to talk about their contractual status for next year. “Pretty sure,” Aston Martin team boss Otmar Szafnauer answered when asked how sure he is about Vettel staying in 2022. “We want Seb to stay. And he also likes the team.” However, it is rumoured that 34-year-old Vettel’s passion for Formula 1 itself is waning, prompting the renewed speculation in the Italian media. “The situation is said to be constantly evolving,” Sky Italia reported from Monza. “The decision is in the driver’s hands only. It is he who must give an answer.” AM last year compared to AM this year might have something to do with delayed committment to next phase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2021 D/T 2021.09.13 12:36 CEST Quote “I see Vettel staying with Aston Martin,” Danner told Sport1. “He won’t lose the opportunity to wait and see whether what he bought into will lead to success.” Szafnauer said he expects official announcements to be ready before Sochi in two weeks. Szafnauer also said neither them or Vettel have Plan B. Well, maybe it was not talked about or explored enough, but Vettel has a Plan B, it is called retirement. From my understanding squabble between both parties is about duration of the new contract as a singular issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2021 Good one: Quote As F1 awaits news of Sebastian Vettel’s 2022 plans, Gerhard Berger hopes F1, not beekeeping, is at the “centre of his passion”. No one is certain Sebastian will stay. One English paper stated (interestingly worded) that issue is Vettel accepting drive for 2022. On impulse first tought was - that's all what was offered? After that I quickly realised source of this, so it is not clear what is AM asking Sebastian to accept. One thing is certain - Seb was asked to keep conditions locked and secret. Unless someone from AM internally will speak, we are left guessing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2021 D/T 2021.09.15 08:16 CEST Quote “We are delighted with Sebastian,” the Canadian told the BBC. “It is our firm intention to continue with him next year and beyond.” This is first time I am hearing/reading confirmation from the owner of AM that a proposed deal with Sebastian could be more than one year. Well, my life with the F1 depends on it, while I am sticking with my man for duration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2021 D/T 2021.09.15 12:20 CEST Robert Kubica - might be in the running for Vettel's seat. Quote Kubica, meanwhile, was quoted as saying: "I can't say anything yet. He can't say anything yet? It is noted he didn't say this is all nonsense, as AM claims. I am lost over whole affair. Someone is not telling the truth. There is unexplained delay, and so on. The only plausible explanation I have on face of it, that Sebastian remain uncommitted, and Kubica is only one who is available for next year to replace him. My second guess is that sticking point is probably length of new contract. I think Seb wants 3 years, and offer is probably for 1 year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2021 D/T 2021.09.16 11:09 CEST Sebastian Vettel is confirmed by AM for 2022. There is no explanation available as yet which would touch on contract terms, money, what was hold up about, 2023...etc. So, I will endure another year in this so called sport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted September 16, 2021 Happy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2021 My own happiness is really not that important. Question is, whether Seb is because he got what he wanted, or they park him because that's best option for them. That delayed annoucement most likely holds more secrets than was announced. Point is, I have my reservation about that organisation, and trust they treat Vettel fairly is not on the top of my list. I think Seb was forced to take what they offered. I am not sure whether he is happy. Stroll Jr. basically killed Vettel's last race, as being first in the chain who did some damage on his car-postion (I think Seb lost 4 places), then Ocon and Schumacher took swipe at him, yet I can't find a moment when TP would say something critical about Junior. Imagine Bottas would do something like that to Hamilton. War planes would be heading towards Finland by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted September 16, 2021 He took the decision. Let's see what next year brings and if it suits him, hopefully AM can come up with a bullet https://the-race.com/formula-1/vettel-finally-takes-up-aston-martin-option-for-2022-f1-season/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackpebel 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2021 Good for Seb. Hope to see closer racing from them next season. AM (Previously Force-India) have a good bunch of innovative engineers on there side who can make a difference. Vettel him self puts in a lot of efforts with the group around him. They would help Build junior a good car, LOL. Hope Seb gets his mojo Back for next season and is energized for the challenge ahead. Some how, I have a feeling that Williams would make a good leap forward next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2021 Aston Martin detail reasons behind Vettel retention Quote "He is a very principled person, a man of high integrity, which personally I like," said Szafnauer. "So he is a good guy, and we like him. I'am not sure if that's enough, or there should be more. It's enough for me, but then, I am racing only between 2230 - 0600. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2021 Can someone explain to me why AM needs for days justify to media why Vettel will be driving for them next year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipstick79 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, Sakae said: Can someone explain to me why AM needs for days justify to media why Vettel will be driving for them next year? Raise awareness Just like a fizzy drink, keeps a brand name in the media. Unfortunately Seb is NOT doin THAT on track. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2021 D/T 2021.09.18 08:51 CEST “The switched-on intelligence of Vettel and the domineering boss persona of Stroll are not the most natural fit Interesting read about Vettel's prospect at AM. Stroll Jr. is not playing clean, whether deliberately, or as result of combination of aggressiveness with clumsiness, and it will take a lot on part of Seb to work this out. I've enjoyed reading it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2021 D/T 2021.09.23 15:54 CEST Quote Asked if signing for another year was ever really in doubt, Vettel said: "Not really in the end. The excitement for next year, the new car, the new regs, where the team is going, it looks very promising. “We don’t know until next year but it is great to be part of it. I don’t know if there’s a timing line in general when people expect an answer or not. "There were lots of things in my mind, but what matters, in the end, is going forward it’s clear what is going to happen.” Sebastian is staying positive, therefore it's perhaps time for me to do the same. He believes in podium and P1, and that should be good enough for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipstick79 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Sakae said: Sebastian is staying positive, therefore ... Seb STILL HAS 2 prove himself > NOBODY buy`s that he IS 1 of the BEST, (even) AFTER all of HIS titles in the fastest car (at THAT time) - the RedBull. If he CAN do a Shuey - and ACHIEVE a WDC in MORE than 1 team. That WILL elevate Seb. NOT many WDC`s R WON in MORE than 1 team - it CAN happen, but NOT often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted September 28, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 10:03 PM, lipstick79 said: Seb STILL HAS 2 prove himself > NOBODY buy`s that he IS 1 of the BEST, (even) AFTER all of HIS titles in the fastest car (at THAT time) - the RedBull. If he CAN do a Shuey - and ACHIEVE a WDC in MORE than 1 team. That WILL elevate Seb. NOT many WDC`s R WON in MORE than 1 team - it CAN happen, but NOT often. That is absolute bs and Michael had his whole team behind him, and I don't mean only his racing team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipstick79 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2021 2 hours ago, BradSpeedMan said: Michael had his whole team behind him, and I don't mean only his racing team At which racing team, Benetton or Ferrari ? U mean liked Hamilton has the Mercedes team built around HIM When at Mclaren Hamilton WERE Ron`s baby. Ron would do ANYTHIN 4 him. In turn the Mclaren team WERE built around him, then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackpebel 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2021 Good ol seb.. 🙂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackpebel 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2021 😂🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakae 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2021 Quote SZAFNAUER: VETTEL’S BEEN BRILLIANT Well, now you need to give him a better car, and he could be even more brilliant. here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites