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So apparently, in a recent pole, McLaren has been voted as favourite team by a majority of the people.. And Lando as the Fav Driver. No doubt about that.. McLaren has come a long way.

Massive respect for Zak brown.. he has brought with him a different team spirit /vibe, that is resonating throughout the whole team, and now the fans as well.. ūüĎŹ

 

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4 hours ago, blackpebel said:

McLaren has come a long way

Distance is relative.
Mclaren R NOT where they want 2 B
Still a "long way" 2 go.
The pain of the Honda years, reunitin again with Mercedes - via Renault.
If it is NOT broken, DON`T fix it.

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1 minute ago, blackpebel said:

Proof that this guy is a legend!

Untrue.  A legend is NOT real.
A bet IS a bet - just keepin  2 the rules.
It is a gentleman thing - a gentleman`s agreement, I find it strange U R unable 2 comprehend such a thing.

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4 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

Untrue.  A legend is NOT real.

You've tried to argue this before, so I hope this helps.. The word has MORE than just one usage to itself... And it CAN validly be used for either of it's 2 meanings, depending on the sentence you frame.. Please get the wind of where the sentense is going.

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Not everyone acts gentalmanly when it comes to 'keeping' their bets. Mr Abite-bowl-movement sheepishly seems to have ran away from his.

15 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

I find it strange U R unable 2 comprehend such a thing.

Just offering my respect to this man for keeping his promises, and helping the team come to this point where McLaren is being regarded as the most Fav team amongst the fans..

Mr. Brown is an absolute Legend. He's going to go down as one of the best team bosses F1 has seen.

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Unfortunately U R STILL unable 2 grasp.  The concept.
Instead of all the googleing U could simply have made 1 amendment.
> Mr. Brown is an absolute living Legend.

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8 hours ago, blackpebel said:

He's going to go down as one of the best team bosses F1 has seen

At this time, his trophy cabinet IS bare.
Second is first of the losers.

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28 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

At this time, his trophy cabinet IS bare.

Correction. McLaren has 1 trophy for the winning constructor for Monza 2021. And this is in the first year they have Moved to a Mercedes PU. Unfortunately, they had a Renault and Honda PU that didn't deliver as per expectations.

Having said that. Trophy cabinet aside, as a boss, he has raked in a lot of respect from the whole world for McLaren, and THAT (for me), is what counts more.

They will have a better chance from 2022 onwards for other trophies to be added to the said cabinet.

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51 minutes ago, blackpebel said:

McLaren has 1 trophy for the winning constructor for Monza 2021

Technical issue.  Mclaren have MORE than 1 trophy - though it IS correct 4 the current hybrid era.
Second is first of the losers.  The MP4 trophy cabinet is FULL.
As a boss, success IS tangible.  
It is THAT success that brings sponsors - people who WANT 2 B associated with the brand.
 

1 hour ago, blackpebel said:

They will have a better chance from 2022 onwards

That is a regular sayin for ALL in F1, using different words.
> Next year WILL B better ...

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Mclaren STILL officially
> Best of the rest

Ferrari in THIRD R a works team

Honda (Red Bull)
Mercedes

R works team`s followed by ANOTHER work`s team (WITHOUT a win - Ferrari)

Best of the rest - NONE-works team WITH a win
> Mclaren powered by Mercedes 

 

 

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Is Wolfe worried about the threat of Mclaren a Mercedes customer team.
Last season Mclaren HAD 2 spend their tokens on the change from Renault power 
2 become a Mercedes customer AGAIN. 
Like Ron Dennis said.  Need 2 B a works team 2 succeed.
With Mercedes LEAVIN F1 AGAIN
It seems 2 me that Mclaren HAS missed opportunity.
Cosworth SHOULD B lookin 2 return 2 F1.
Now the regs HAVE removed KERS/ERS - makin MORE road car applicable.
Cosworth NEED customers & a WORKS team

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I can't get use to this orange color (or whatever kind that is). I guess it's not my thing. In comparison AM is more pleasing to my old eyes. One positive thing about orange probably is safety related. It should be clearly visible to a front driver in a rainy race that he is followed.

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7 hours ago, Sakae said:

I can't get use to this orange color (or whatever kind that is)

Papaya - the origin`s of Mclaren under Bruce.
Ron Dennis brought the sleek and sexy business look when he partnered with Mercedes
originally - Mclaren becomin the unofficial works Mercedes team.  With the MP4`S.
West sponsorship money brought the sexy Silver Mclaren Mercedes.
Money talks in F1 - the papaya orange will probably disappear 4 the next big partner. 

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On 10/23/2021 at 11:57 PM, blackpebel said:

best team bosses F1 has seen

NOT statistically though.
Race wins, fastest laps - championships ...  He is a long way behind
Still light on sponsors.  Dribs and drabs.
 

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7 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

NOT statistically though.
Race wins, fastest laps - championships ...  He is a long way behind
Still light on sponsors.  Dribs and drabs.
 

...but he is a good talker, you must give it to him. Probably on the first place. It is known a few of his peers can't stand him, but that's another matter.

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3 minutes ago, Sakae said:

he is good talker

A PR guy.
Let teccies do THEIR job,  The designers do THEIR job.
Zak comes out as the face of a winner

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20 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

A PR guy.
Let teccies do THEIR job,  The designers do THEIR job.
Zak comes out as the face of a winner

You are merely reinforcing my initial suspicion that Andreas Seidl is working at the wrong place. 

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5 minutes ago, Sakae said:

initial suspicion that Andreas Seidl is working at the wrong place

Mclaren R on the UP again - UR suspicion was and IS inaccurate.
Time heals most things but, 4 a rash I WOULD recommend usin an ointment.
Let the people do THEIR jobs

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You have understood absolutely nothing. If you think McLaren is that good, then they do not need Seidl. The guy can move to AM. I would like that. Maybe he would be more appreciated.

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29 minutes ago, Sakae said:

You have understood absolutely nothing

How can anybody understand nothing - nothing to understand.
Maybe U MEAN don`t understand anything.
 

33 minutes ago, Sakae said:

If you think McLaren is that good, then they do not need Seidl

There is NO I in TEAM.
The Mclaren TEAM includes Seidl

Continuity IS NEEDED 2 succeed IN F1.
Works status also HELPS.

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On 10/24/2021 at 8:40 AM, blackpebel said:

They will have a better chance from 2022 onwards

This applies 2 ALL teams.  Managed by whoever, with whatever power.
At the end  of EVERY season. everythin IS reset.
The end is just the beginning.

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7 hours ago, lipstick79 said:

This applies 2 ALL teams.

Mmmm.. yes to some level I agree. All the teams are going to have a better chance than what they had after previous Reg changes.

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It exceeds my comprehension how anyone can assert today, several weeks before testing begins, that all teams will have better chance (to excel) this year over past years. Risk exist, it could be for some teams repeated disaster of 2014 all over, and much more. This time on vehicle design. PU performance is suppose to be frozen. 

New changes merely dealt a new set of cards, however if a team messed up (poor interpretation of new rules), I don't know whether a year will be enough for them to recover from initial mistakes. Two sets of rule books (technical, financial) will ensure precisely that, as restrictions on corrective work are tighter than ever before in the past. The only safe is to assume, that some teams will be faster than others, which itself is not very telling assumption.

Racing cannot start soon enough. I am not expecting testing to reveal much about who is up, and who is down. In fact Vettel estimated it will take many months to establish a pecking order.I am further assuming, that front teams will continue where they left last year. Hard to however say in what sequence.

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