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F1 2023 General Thread

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Welcome to the 2023 Season folks.

Looking forwards to some close racing this year with a lot of action on the track.

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6 hours ago, lipstick79 said:

U said that, last year (2022)

Yeah, I look forward to close racing each year I guess. And to be honest we did get some good racing action in 2022, I'm hoping 2023 will be even better.

Max was a class apart in 2022, no questions he will be the guy to beat this year as well. It will take some extraordinary effort from someone to beat him to the championship.

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Yep. Looking forward to seeing who George Russel is going to crash into this year. 

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6 hours ago, Piotr said:

Yep. Looking forward to seeing who George Russel is going to crash into this year. 

I'm actually waiting to see whom Lewis will try to take out 😜

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On 3/2/2023 at 1:08 PM, blackpebel said:

no questions he will be the guy to beat this year as well.

I respectfully DISAGREE 
                                         Alonso WILL B the guy 2 beat in 2023 

U R lookin at it WRONG - The guy 2 beat IS NOT the current champion - that IS expected.

The midfield IS where the action IS.   
The REAL guy 2 beat- front runnin WORKS teams R EXPECTED 2 perform.  It is NOT a challenge.
The guy 2 beat COMES from midfield.  HAS 2 show skill & PERFORM on track.  Race-in race-out.
That guy IS Alonso.  NOT expected 2 win, but WILL perform.
 

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50 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

I respectfully DISAGREE 
                                         Alonso WILL B the guy 2 beat in 2023 

U R lookin at it WRONG - The guy 2 beat IS NOT the current champion - that IS expected.

The midfield IS where the action IS.   
The REAL guy 2 beat- front runnin WORKS teams R EXPECTED 2 perform.  It is NOT a challenge.
The guy 2 beat COMES from midfield.  HAS 2 show skill & PERFORM on track.  Race-in race-out.
That guy IS Alonso.  NOT expected 2 win, but WILL perform.
 

Well I hope that's right, coz everyone would like to see a top class championship with Alonso in the mix,,, and to maybe even win it. The guy deserved a front row car, and he seems to be in one at the moment.

At least Alonso is practically looking at the possibilities and not getting over confident about the hype that has been put out..

Alonso interview after P2

Also...

Speculative Data After P2

We are still to get a clear picture of where the grid stands. I think after Azerbaijan GP we will should have a clear picture of the relative order of the grid.

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I've said this before last year, and I'm gonna say this again this year... I respect the power rankings that F1 has come up with...

It gives a fair view of the heroism shown by drivers ... something that could be missed out due to the differences in the cars.

 

Here is the update after the first race:

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.power-rankings-who-starts-the-year-on-top-after-the-season-opening-bahrain.dMzYyD9VIDTUhz6GVdma1.html

 

 

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On 3/8/2023 at 9:53 PM, blackpebel said:

I've said this before last year, and I'm gonna say this again this year.

Nobody were interested last year, what do U think will make them interested this year?

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Max HAS proven - he is NOT the BEST
Max does NOT like Sprint Races - What happens, - Max  loses Sprint Race
In the SAME weekend
Max LOSES in F1 2 his team mate - should ALWAYS beat UR team mate - at LEAST 
> Has the SAME equipment as U
Max IS JUST - makin himself decline (N the BEST car)
Good drivers WOULD do it the OTHER way - Improve IN the BEST car) 

 

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On 5/1/2023 at 3:55 AM, lipstick79 said:

Max HAS proven - he is NOT the BEST
Max does NOT like Sprint Races - What happens, - Max  loses Sprint Race
In the SAME weekend
Max LOSES in F1 2 his team mate - should ALWAYS beat UR team mate - at LEAST 
> Has the SAME equipment as U
Max IS JUST - makin himself decline (N the BEST car)
Good drivers WOULD do it the OTHER way - Improve IN the BEST car) 

 

Here are MY personal thoughts...

I saw a Max Verstappen in 2021, who took the fight to the mighty Mercedes and won the drivers championship.

I've seen him become the youngest GP winner.

I've seen him being replaced mid season by Redbull coz of his brilliance.

And I've watched enough of Max Verstappen to know that he is not just good, he's one of the sports legends..

He's the benchmark for his team to compare his team mates..

He's a little too straight forward with his talk, but Ayrton too vehemently defended his actions..

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32 minutes ago, blackpebel said:

he's one of the sports legends.

Technicality - have 2 B dead 2 B a legend.

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1 hour ago, lipstick79 said:

Technicality - have 2 B dead 2 B a legend.

Nnnope.. You can be addressed as a living legend,, if you deeds (while you are alive) can be compared with the best in the world.

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5 minutes ago, blackpebel said:

as a living legend

Exactly - NOT a legend because not dead.
U HAVE just confirmed my POINT.

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Regardless of who is the legend - Alonso is "the best" driver this year. He reminds me of Kubica in BMW Sauber - outdriving the car he is in and putting it where it does not belong. Mercedes is doing the same shady crap they are always doing - shady dealings with their drivers. Mercedes use the team strategy to manage their drivers - they did it with Bottas, and now they are doing it with Hamilton; essentially, they are telling Hamilton his days with the team are numbered and Russell will take over no matter what (they started this crap with Russell in Williams against Kubica). Russell does what he is told and came from Mercedes farm, so he will be rewarded with a #1 seat within the next 2-3 years. You will see more of Hamilton "losing" to Russell because of teams strategy, not skills, but "experts" will declare Hamilton simply forgot how to drive. That's why saying "you should win against your teammate" is meaningless, because it's the team who decides which teammate wins. 

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On 5/15/2023 at 2:14 PM, Piotr said:

Alonso is "the best" driver this year

IS ambiguous.
Clarify UR definition, what is  "the best" ??
Bringin the car home IS the requirement.  LOT`S of drivers have done that.

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3 hours ago, lipstick79 said:

IS ambiguous.
Clarify UR definition, what is  "the best" ??
Bringin the car home IS the requirement.  LOT`S of drivers have done that.

I stated it in the second sentence  - "[...] outdriving the car he is in and putting it where it does not belong." Kubica has done it his whole career, and now Alonso is doing it. Aston Martin has no business being on podium. Look where Latiffi is - that's like the real measure of that car. Go and look at Kubica - Heidfeld.  The same exact thing - except maybe GP Canada. 

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1 hour ago, Piotr said:

putting it where it does not belong

If it did NOT belong there, it would NOT B there

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24 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

If it did NOT belong there, it would NOT B there

Not true. Russians do not belong in Ukraine, but sure as hell they are there. Mazespin did not belong in F1 - but did drive there. DeVries does not belong in F1, but there we are.

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5 minutes ago, Piotr said:

Russians do not belong in Ukraine, but sure as hell they are there

For NOW mayB - But over time, things have a habbit of shakin themselves out.

 Mazespin and DeVries - pay their way, so they DO belong

 

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On 5/15/2023 at 6:44 PM, Piotr said:

Regardless of who is the legend - Alonso is "the best" driver this year. 

Yess! 

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7 hours ago, blackpebel said:

Regardless of who is the legend - Alonso is "the best" driver this year.

> INCORRECT - I respectfully DISAGREE
Bein consistent WITH UR theory.  Alonso IS the better driver, this year.
Alonso is NOT first, in turn is NOT the best.  However Alonso IS a better driver, this year.

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