Fed up 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 but then again, even with extra weight now the car is quick and probably the current 3rd best (ferrari being also very close) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My point exactly, if you are the 3rd car how can you realistically win the race. If Ferrari are also very close, how much does the MS factor weigh on the arguemnet. JB has twice yielded to MS under race conditions, so you could realistically argue that JB is further behind MS in the pecking order. There would have to be carnage on the track for JB to win in France Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 not nessersarily. It isnt that far behind the mclarens and renaults now. Im going to now amuse you all with what happened to me last night, and will consequently mean me spending Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 Therres never a dull moment in my life! lol. Its very embarressing really but ahh well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duest 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 He didnt expect to be on pole because his machinery isnt yet top spec, henc why he put down his chances, he knew he wouldnt win in Canada as he was surrounded by much better cars, the renaults and the Mclarens. Why do you say such a thing, he was being very honest, why lie and say your going to win and beat the others to the ground, getting the fans at home excited then seeing two renaults shoot past with their great starts!I most deffinately will not shut up about it, LOL! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So when Jenson finally makes it to the front of the grid in a light car and gets blown away by those around him it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 Jensons starts are very much on the whole fine, and he gets off very cleanly the majority of times actually! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 Jensons starts are very much on the whole fine, and he gets off very cleanly the majority of times actually! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Blind faith is admirable but can sometimes lead to a lack of objectivity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 Perhaps we all have blind faith in something? I wonder if the trick is to choose carefully? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 What. He does start fine the majority of times! Wheres your facts to say his starts are always rubbish! What a load of s##t you speak! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 What. He does start fine the majority of times! Wheres your facts to say his starts are always rubbish! What a load of s##t you speak! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Are you referring to anyone in particular because I cannot see where JB's starts jhave been referred to as rubbish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 Blind faith is admirable but can sometimes lead to a lack of objectivity <{POST_SNAPBACK}> To me this says my faith in him leaves me blind from being objective, and you quoted me saying his starts were good, so it means to me your saying his starts arnt good! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 To me this says my faith in him leaves me blind from being objective, and you quoted me saying his starts were good, so it means to me your saying his starts arnt good! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I guess that was an accurate interpretation of blind faith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 so do you think he is a bad starter then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 so do you think he is a bad starter then? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As I have said on numerous occasions JB is my second favourite driver behind MS. His starts are good and his race pace is very strong. I just dont think that he is WDC material. For that you need the strength of character, focus and determination that is very rare. He will win many races in his career, like DC, but not a WDC. I am not alone in this assessment others, including Jackie Stewart, Stirling Moss and Flavio have reached the same conclusion. Lets hope he proves me wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 he will, dont you worry. He will be WDC in 2007, you watch! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 he will, dont you worry. He will be WDC in 2007, you watch! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If he is in a Ferrari, maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 no, whatever car hes in, that will be his year! FA's this year, with kimi very close, kimi's next year with fa and button really close, and button 2007 with kimi and alonso very close! And the WDC will be shared between these three for quite a few years to come i shall imagine! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 no, whatever car hes in, that will be his year! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Jenson will need a better car than the better drivers in the field; namely, M.Schumacher, Kimi, Alonso and possibly Montoya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 na i disagree, what i say now becomes reality in 2007! so there. He my not be in the best car but whos to say a s##t driver is in the best car like sato, and he dosnt even win a race, now that would be ****ing hilarious! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 If he is in a Ferrari, maybe. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> best to whisper that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 na i disagree, what i say now becomes reality in 2007! so there. He my not be in the best car but whos to say a s##t driver is in the best car like sato, and he dosnt even win a race, now that would be ****ing hilarious! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackgarrett 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2005 How come 80% of all members rate Jenson as the 4th best. Ur such ****ing idiots somtimes! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thats because 80% are brits. jpm is better than jb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2005 thats because 80% are brits.jpm is better than jb. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I support JB but I am not blind to obvious facts. JPM is in a league above JB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaciaj 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2005 thats because 80% are brits.jpm is better than jb. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What crap...Jenson is 25 actually,by the time he was 25 Montoya was yet in the Champcar...Jenson is already better than the hotheaded JPM,and,given the young age he can even improve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2005 Im not denying JB has weak spots, but whenever most preictions are made, JB is mostly about 4th with trulli and often fisi and JPM. JB is 25, thats still at least 10 years of racing ahead of him, and because he is still relatively young he has time to improve his weak spots. 80% arnt brits on here, probably not even 40% the main posters that are brits are myself, senna, kay_zee and murrywalker with a few others who ofetn post. There is probably just as many australians as brits, and then probably just as many italians/spanish/mexican/american/canadian etc as well. We do not make up 80% of the forum, significantly less! so shut up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2005 What crap...Jenson is 25 actually,by the time he was 25 Montoya was yet in the Champcar...Jenson is already better than the hotheaded JPM,and,given the young age he can even improve. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites