bajo39 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2005 Now that RBR have confirmed Coulthard for 2006, how have your expectations for the 2006 lineup changed? This is what I am predicting, a bit of a longshot mind you... Ferrari - M. Schum / Massa McLaren - Kimi / JPM Renault - Alonso / Fisichella* Toyota - Trulli / R. Schum Williams - Webber / Button BAR - Barrichello / Sato BMW - Villeneuve / Heidfeld RBR - Couthard / Klien Midland - rubbish pay driver / rubbish pay driver - I would like Ranger as 3rd driver Minardi - decent pay driver / decent pay driver *I would like to see Bourdais as third driver but his Champ Car team has an air-tight contract with him for next year and will not release him contrary to speculation in another thread. They issued a press release to this effect prior to the French GP in anticipation of all sorts of speculation stemming from his appearance in the paddock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Null 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2005 BMW - Villeneuve / Heidfeld What? No, stop it, Vileneuve doesn't have a chance of racing for BMW when they have the chance of getting Heidfeld. Think about it. No, think harder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2005 BMW - Villeneuve / HeidfeldWhat? No, stop it, Vileneuve doesn't have a chance of racing for BMW when they have the chance of getting Heidfeld. Think about it. No, think harder. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You heard me half-wit, Villeneuve will be at BMW next season. The only way he will not be there is if the team buy him out of his contract. We can only speculate as to the cost of doing that but I would be surprised if it were not prohibitive. Pollock negotiated the contract afterall.. If you do not think JV will be there, who will fill the void. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Null 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2005 if massa has no other drive then he will fill the void as per se. And no need for name calling. We'll see who's right later anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2005 if massa has no other drive then he will fill the void as per se. And no need for name calling. We'll see who's right later anyway. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I didn't appreciate your suggestion that I "think" or "think harder" about my post... Massa could remain at Sauber but if he does there will be no room for Nick. JV's contract is air-tight and for BMW to escape from this will be painful. And I don't think it will necessarily bring any added performance to the team, JV has demonstrated satisfactory performance of late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2005 I didn't appreciate your suggestion that I "think" or "think harder" about my post...Massa could remain at Sauber but if he does there will be no room for Nick. JV's contract is air-tight and for BMW to escape from this will be painful. And I don't think it will necessarily bring any added performance to the team, JV has demonstrated satisfactory performance of late. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> For what its worth, I'd say paying off JV's contract is the lesser of the two evils Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2005 For what its worth, I'd say paying off JV's contract is the lesser of the two evils <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The opinion you have expressed on this matter is worth nothing at all... You have no idea what the size of the pay-off might be and therefore have no basis to say that this is the sensible course for the team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2005 The opinion you have expressed on this matter is worth nothing at all...You have no idea what the size of the pay-off might be and therefore have no basis to say that this is the sensible course for the team <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My faint recollection is that JV had advertising space on the Sauber worth about $5m. Sauber were not paying him for his services as he was in effect a rent boy(driver) The general concensus is that JV's position at BMW is precarious at best. It is not for his lack of pace, more for his outspoken views and disruptive influence. I'd say RS has a better chance of defecting to BMW than JV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YHR 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2005 My faint recollection is that JV had advertising space on the Sauber worth about $5m. Sauber were not paying him for his services as he was in effect a rent boy(driver) The general concensus is that JV's position at BMW is precarious at best. It is not for his lack of pace, more for his outspoken views and disruptive influence. I'd say RS has a better chance of defecting to BMW than JV <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You spend too much time reading internet headlines. JV works well with the team and his partner. Ask anyone who has actually worked with Villenueve and you will get a different answer then what the press rags print. Both Massa and JV have an excellent chance of staying on with BMW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YHR 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 My faint recollection is that JV had advertising space on the Sauber worth about $5m. Sauber were not paying him for his services as he was in effect a rent boy(driver) The general concensus is that JV's position at BMW is precarious at best. It is not for his lack of pace, more for his outspoken views and disruptive influence. I'd say RS has a better chance of defecting to BMW than JV <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now that would be criminal, and turn this BMW exercise into another Honda type team. I think even Senna would admit that JV deserves to be in F1 more then RS does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nojvnof1 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 My faint recollection is that JV had advertising space on the Sauber worth about $5m. Sauber were not paying him for his services as he was in effect a rent boy(driver) The general concensus is that JV's position at BMW is precarious at best. It is not for his lack of pace, more for his outspoken views and disruptive influence. I'd say RS has a better chance of defecting to BMW than JV <{POST_SNAPBACK}> your faint recollection is wrong. JV is getting roughly 5mill a year plus bonuses. The advertising space thing is a rumour. I don't know how JV's position is at stake due to his "outspoken views and disruptive influence". How is he a disruptive influence?? Because he tried to give information to the engineers but wouldn't listen to him?? Is it because he wants things to be pushed closer to the limits so he and the team can improve? When people get in a comfort zone, they react badly to someone new who wants to improve situation in a unique way and by working harder. If anyone should be booted out of their respective drive it is Ralf, but then again, it's a pity Jacques' surname isn't Schumacher, cos then everyone would just leave him alone and let him be, as they are astonishingly doing with Ralf. Why he isn't under any pressure baffles me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YHR 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 your faint recollection is wrong. JV is getting roughly 5mill a year plus bonuses. The advertising space thing is a rumour. I don't know how JV's position is at stake due to his "outspoken views and disruptive influence". How is he a disruptive influence?? Because he tried to give information to the engineers but wouldn't listen to him?? Is it because he wants things to be pushed closer to the limits so he and the team can improve? When people get in a comfort zone, they react badly to someone new who wants to improve situation in a unique way and by working harder. If anyone should be booted out of their respective drive it is Ralf, but then again, it's a pity Jacques' surname isn't Schumacher, cos then everyone would just leave him alone and let him be, as they are astonishingly doing with Ralf. Why he isn't under any pressure baffles me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Slamming Ralf is no fun. Everybody agrees, and the thread dies because there are no conflicting opinions on Ralf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 your faint recollection is wrong. JV is getting roughly 5mill a year plus bonuses. The advertising space thing is a rumour. I don't know how JV's position is at stake due to his "outspoken views and disruptive influence". How is he a disruptive influence?? Because he tried to give information to the engineers but wouldn't listen to him?? Is it because he wants things to be pushed closer to the limits so he and the team can improve? When people get in a comfort zone, they react badly to someone new who wants to improve situation in a unique way and by working harder. If anyone should be booted out of their respective drive it is Ralf, but then again, it's a pity Jacques' surname isn't Schumacher, cos then everyone would just leave him alone and let him be, as they are astonishingly doing with Ralf. Why he isn't under any pressure baffles me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Could you please provide a source for this information. If DC is on a pay as you score system I find it incredulous that JV could be paid $5mill per year plus bonuses. Sauber cannot afford those kind of salaries especially after losing Red Bull as a sponsor. There is no way that JV has had as positive an influence at sauber as GF, NH or KR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackgarrett 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 jv 3 million fm 1 million Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 jv 3 million fm 1 million <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Villeneuve, who left BAR Honda after the 2003 season, sat out much of last year before returning for the final three races with Renault. He has a two-year contract (one year plus an option) with Sauber, which apparently pays him less than $5 million U.S., a huge drop from the reported $18 million he earned annually at BAR. Montreal Gazette Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenneth 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 The topic always Jto destroy JV ... But people let 2006 arrives then talk you b#####dssssss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 The topic always Jto destroy JV ...But people let 2006 arrives then talk you b#####dssssss. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You are the biggest kn0b on this forum - I'm the 2nd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 Ferrari - M. Schum / R. Barrichello BAR Honda - J. Button / T. Sato Reanult - F. Alonso / G. Fisichella Williams - M. Webber / A. Davidson Mclaren - K. Raikonnen / JP. Montoya BMW - N. Heidfeld / F. Massa RBR Ferrari - D. Coulthard / C. Klien Toyota - J. Trulli / R. Schumacher Midland - **** Knows / **** Knows Minardi - Better Than Jordan **** Knows 1 / Better Than Jordan **** Knows 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 Ferrari - MS/FM McClaren - KR/JPM Williams MW/JB BAR RB/Sato RBR DC/CK/AL BMW NH/JV* Jordan Bothered Minardi Ditto * Will only stay if BMW excercise the rumoured option Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 Hello kup, are you new? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaciaj 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 Midland will have Toyota engines and a line up of Monteiro and Albers I suppose.Button at Williams-Cosworth, Villeneuve out of F.1, Massa to drive for Bar-Honda (or Honda if they buy the team 100%).It may also be Klien at BMW alongside Nick and Liuzzi at Red Bull. Minardi will line up the GP2 champion Heikki Kovalainen plus maybe Karthikeyan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 Midland will have Toyota engines and a line up of Monteiro and Albers I suppose.Button at Williams-Cosworth, Villeneuve out of F.1, Massa to drive for Bar-Honda (or Honda if they buy the team 100%).It may also be Klien at BMW alongside Nick and Liuzzi at Red Bull. Minardi will line up the GP2 champion Heikki Kovalainen plus maybe Karthikeyan <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Interesting insight ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 Midland will have Toyota engines and a line up of Monteiro and Albers I suppose.Button at Williams-Cosworth, Villeneuve out of F.1, Massa to drive for Bar-Honda (or Honda if they buy the team 100%).It may also be Klien at BMW alongside Nick and Liuzzi at Red Bull. Minardi will line up the GP2 champion Heikki Kovalainen plus maybe Karthikeyan <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now that should be exciting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Null 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 I'd like to see a combination of Kovalainen, Rosberg or Paffett for midland/minardi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2005 Midland will have Toyota engines and a line up of Monteiro and Albers I suppose.Button at Williams-Cosworth, Villeneuve out of F.1, Massa to drive for Bar-Honda (or Honda if they buy the team 100%).It may also be Klien at BMW alongside Nick and Liuzzi at Red Bull. Minardi will line up the GP2 champion Heikki Kovalainen plus maybe Karthikeyan <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites