Taku 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 was just checking out the hockenheim layout for next week. and i thought it was butchered last year! take a look fellas: http://www.formula1.com/race/circuitmap/743.html what happened to the bloody back straight?? if there's a silver lining it's that it will favour the mclaren over the ferrari, but i imagine it will mean less overtaking again with folowing through the corners so difficult... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Its the same as last year....atleast i don't see any difference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pumpdoc 2 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Its the same as last year....atleast i don't see any difference? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have to agree, no change from last year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 they did this 2-3 seasons ago. I loved the old circuit through the forest and all. pity, its destroyed the track. they thought it was too long or something. too slow now. monza is the only decent fast circuit, even though it has been slapped with chicanes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CC 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Officially the worst decision ever made. They turned what was a brilliant long and challenging track into just an average track. Well done guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I prefer the newer version of the track.... How is going in a striaght line for 70% of a lap challenging? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I prefer the newer version of the track.... How is going in a striaght line for 70% of a lap challenging? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> True, but i much prefered the old hockenheim, its lost all its charm now! I have F1 2001 on my playstation, the only f1 game i own sadly, and thats still got the old hockenheim circuit, which i think is much better! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SchumiDeSuck 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 they did this 2-3 seasons ago. I loved the old circuit through the forest and all. pity, its destroyed the track. they thought it was too long or something. too slow now. monza is the only decent fast circuit, even though it has been slapped with chicanes. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taku 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 turns 7, 8 & 9 were not on last year's circuit? i must have missed last year's race when i was overseas. i loved that back straight and the overtaking moments it produced. i was especially looking forward to it after silverstone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I think you'll find they were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Its where someone made a pass actually, but i forget who it was. Perhaps coulthard was involved? I think it may of involved Button also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taku 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 did they change qualifying too? since when did we have this one lap business.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Go back to the retirement home old man! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecapdeville 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Damn!, I miss the old circuit!...it was one of last ones with that old F1 taste, now is just another Tilke horrendous track. In turn 6 this joke connects to the old track, turns 7,8,9,10 were created after the Germans destroyed this circuit. I have made this comparative track for you guys...tell me what you think... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 is that really true to scale? I didnt realise it was that small. darn. go back to the old nurburgring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecapdeville 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 is that really true to scale? I didnt realise it was that small. darn. go back to the old nurburgring <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, true scale... Wait...old nurburgring?.... , old Hockenheim you mean dont you???, by the way, old nurburgring was great too...ask Niki Lauda about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 The old hockenheim was much more unique than tilkes pieces of poo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 not hockenheim, I mean the long original nurburgring track that is not used for F1 for quite a while since its unsafe. modern circuits are too short. 100 seconds lap times should be minimum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 not hockenheim, I mean the long original nurburgring track that is not used for F1 for quite a while since its unsafe. modern circuits are too short. 100 seconds lap times should be minimum. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well not all modern circuits are short, look at malaysia and shanghai for example, they aint that short! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SchumiDeSuck 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 not hockenheim, I mean the long original nurburgring track that is not used for F1 for quite a while since its unsafe. modern circuits are too short. 100 seconds lap times should be minimum. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Null 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I loved the old hockenheim, the racing through the forest, nowhere else had that and what they did to it a couple of years back upset me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Damn!, I miss the old circuit!...it was one of last ones with that old F1 taste, now is just another Tilke horrendous track.In turn 6 this joke connects to the old track, turns 7,8,9,10 were created after the Germans destroyed this circuit. I have made this comparative track for you guys...tell me what you think... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Great picture. Clearly what they should have done was remove all the chicanes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CC 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I prefer the newer version of the track.... How is going in a striaght line for 70% of a lap challenging? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A long the straight not so challenging I don't expect the car to weave around all the time. But the long straights did play a big part in the difficulty of the corners, because you have to run low down force the corners and chicanes then became very challenging, much more so compared to the new version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Great picture. Clearly what they should have done was remove all the chicanes <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, a flat out race other than the stadium section, that would be great! . God damn tilke thats what i say! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 The stadium section hasn't changed...... If i wanted to see full speed for almost a whole lap i'd watch IRL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
