silber_pfeil 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2006 got some news from F1racing.net....the pictures of new mercedes AMG which is going to be used as a safety car in 2006... I am in love with that car.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted February 28, 2006 They should use a proper racing car instead, not a car that a five year old could drive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2006 They should use a proper racing car instead, not a car that a five year old could drive It would have to be a very gifted 5 year old. What kind of racing car are you suggesting, or rather, what kind of racing car do you have in mind? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted February 28, 2006 something without a 250kph limiter, with a manual transmission, which doesnt handle like a yacht. something red rather than ' bling' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_3001 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2006 something without a 250kph limiter, with a manual transmission, which doesnt handle like a yacht.something red rather than ' bling' Mercedes-Benz will use a new Safety Car during the 2006 Formula One season, the CLK 63 AMG. Bernd Maylander will drive the Safety car that has an 6,3 liter V8 engine of AMG wich can provide 481hp. -F1technical.com- Add to that something like -150kg to the original CLK 63 AMG Definitly a bad car Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2006 Indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redline 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 Sorry to interrupt all the post-count enhancing "Indeed" stuff........... ...........OK, I'm not sorry at all. That "Safety" Car is dangerous! Something much quicker is needed, with a decent driver. The relatively puny thing you're all drooling over will be responsible for cold tyres, low pressures and the attendent handling dangers. Will they ever learn? . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jem of the Shire 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 the safety car is fine what r u on about! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redline 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 Let me explain with an example (though why I'm bothering I dooooo not know)...... http://www.simonjones.co.uk/meanwhile/arti...999-may-01.html For those who need leading by the hand even more, here's the relevant extract....... ".........the safety car was deployed onto the track. All the cars had to line up behind it and follow it around while the track was cleared. All this time vital heat and pressure, that has to be in the Grand Prix cars tyres, was decreasing. Senna often drew up along side the safety car and waved at the driver to go faster, but the brakes on the safety car (a standard Opel vectra) were by now completely worn down after the Opel had done two flat out laps ahead of the F1 field. The safety car driver knew of Senna's annoyance at his apparent lack of speed, but he could go no faster for the risk of going off track himself!" Don't pretend the toy at the top of the page is sufficiently better. Understand now? Hard work around here sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 Christ on a bike, Redline!! You talk such bollocks at times. Are you seriously suggesting that the car at the top of this thread is equivalent to a Vectra???? In your finite wisdom, what sort of vehicle would you suggest, and please be specific. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jem of the Shire 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 Lets remember please everyone that the safety car has to be a lot slower than the f1 cars otherwise it defeats the object of 'safety car'. Drivers cant expect the safety car to go fast enough for the f1 cars to keep their tyres hot, and any driver who drives alongside the safety car waving him to go faster must be a complete moron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 Lets remember please everyone that the safety car has to be a lot slower than the f1 cars otherwise it defeats the object of 'safety car'. Drivers cant expect the safety car to go fast enough for the f1 cars to keep their tyres hot, and any driver who drives alongside the safety car waving him to go faster must be a complete moron These days I would agree with you, but in 94 the safety car was hopelessly inadequate for the job and I can understand that the drivers would be concerned about this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeakRPM 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 It is a double edged sword. Go faster, you hit things faster. Go slower, and you take away performance. As for a suitable car. Why not a V8 Supercar, DTM Series type car ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 It is a double edged sword.Go faster, you hit things faster. Go slower, and you take away performance. As for a suitable car. Why not a V8 Supercar, DTM Series type car ? Eminently sensible idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jem of the Shire 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 As for a suitable car. Why not a V8 Supercar, DTM Series type car ? Because they are too fast. Safety car needs to guide the f1 field through the wreckage of the crash, not post quick lap times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 Because they are too fast. Safety car needs to guide the f1 field through the wreckage of the crash, not post quick lap times True, but there is surely a need for a car with sufficient performance to ensure that the following cars keep enough airflow through their rads, and also to keep tyre pressures up and carcasses up to temperature on the rest of the lap. How often is there an accident covering the whole circuit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jem of the Shire 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 True, but there is surely a need for a car with sufficient performance to ensure that the following cars keep enough airflow through their rads, and also to keep tyre pressures up and carcasses up to temperature on the rest of the lap. How often is there an accident covering the whole circuit? I've never known it to be a problem. If it was a problem then I'm sure the safety car would be changed to something more powerful. But I've never heard a driver or team complaining about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redline 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 Christ on a bike, Redline!! You talk such bollocks at times.Are you seriously suggesting that the car at the top of this thread is equivalent to a Vectra???? If you care to read my post again, you'll notice that I state the following.......Don't pretend the toy at the top of the page is sufficiently better. How, on all that is Holy (even including Christ on a bike, if you wish) does that suggest to you that I am comparing the Mercedes to a Vectra? How much quicker is the Merc than the Vectra? Lets say twice as quick. Twice as quick is not sufficiently better. What conclusion do I draw from this? I conclude that you talk such b*****ks at times. In your finite wisdom, what sort of vehicle would you suggest, and please be specific Ferrari Enzo. Ferrari F40 Lambourghini Murcielago. Ford GT40 .......as a minimum in terms of performance. .......and before you get the wrong end of things yet again, I mean one of those cars, not all four at the same time! ....and the driver should give it some major welly except near the incident. As someone else rightly pointed out, accidents don't occur over the entire circuit. Why am I wasting my time typing on this Forum? I've got better things to do than discuss such things with idiots! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jem of the Shire 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 If you care to read my post again, you'll notice that I state the following.......Don't pretend the toy at the top of the page is sufficiently better. How, on all that is Holy (even including Christ on a bike, if you wish) does that suggest to you that I am comparing the Mercedes to a Vectra? How much quicker is the Merc than the Vectra? Lets say twice as quick. Twice as quick is not sufficiently better. What conclusion do I draw from this? I conclude that you talk such b*****ks at times. Ferrari Enzo. Ferrari F40 Lambourghini Murcielago. Ford GT40 .......as a minimum in terms of performance. .......and before you get the wrong end of things yet again, I mean one of those cars, not all four at the same time! ....and the driver should give it some major welly except near the incident. As someone else rightly pointed out, accidents don't occur over the entire circuit. Why am I wasting my time typing on this Forum? I've got better things to do than discuss such things with idiots! You're unnecessarily being a ----- Stoppit Jem getting personal is not neccesary.......kindly stop pumpdoc.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecapdeville 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 Why am I wasting my time typing on this Forum? I've got better things to do than discuss such things with idiots! You are right...why, why? run before is to late! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jem of the Shire 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 mini-poll: who thinks Redline is an arrogant git who thinks he's above all others and is not welcome here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecapdeville 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 mini-poll: who thinks Redline is an arrogant git who thinks he's above all others and is not welcome here? I think that he should go if he doesnt feel good here...thats it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 Mercedes-Benz will use a new Safety Car during the 2006 Formula One season, the CLK 63 AMG. Bernd Maylander will drive the Safety car that has an 6,3 liter V8 engine of AMG wich can provide 481hp.-F1technical.com- Add to that something like -150kg to the original CLK 63 AMG Definitly a bad car Coupled to an antique automatic, lousy wallowing handling and a 250 kph limit. 1 Pagani Zonda F 1.18.4 2 Maserati MC12 1.18.9 3 Ferrari Enzo 1.19.0 4 Ariel Atom 1.19.5 5 Porsche Carrera GT 1.19.8 10 Ferrari 360 CS 1.22.3 11 Murcielago 1.23.7 12 Zonda 1.23.8 13 Koenigsegg 1.23.9 18 Gallardo 1.25.8 22 Ferrari 575 GTC 1.26.8 30 BMW M3 CSL 1.28.0 35 Mercedes CL65 1.29 55 Mercedes SL55 AMG 1.33.2 speed demons aren't they (top gear laptimes) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jem of the Shire 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 as i said before, if a faster car was needed, I'm sure they'd use one. The current safety car is fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
