rodders47 2 Report post Posted July 8, 2003 Ok Kimi sure seems to have the legs on David and I am not sure WHY. D.C sure has the miles under his belt but seems to be unable to offer any challenge to Kimi, who is by far a lot less experienced. Is D.C being more conservative after that aircraft crash and has lost some of his Fighting nature, although he sure set some blistering laps in the last race !!! Your thoughts on this !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nichosnz 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 I maintain that DC is (and always has been) overrated, sure he has flashes of brilliance, and they do appear to bee less frequent. But has never been a consistant performer. I remind you Rod that DC has been in one of the top two teams every year since 1994 except 1996 and 1997, and in 1997 he was in the third best team, Yet he has never remained in the championship fight long after any seasons mid point. If fact I can only think of once when he was in the fight at all, mid 2000. DC is a bridesmaid, always has been, always will be! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Param 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 If fact I can only think of once when he was in the fight at all, mid 2000. And of course besides that his best overall finish was in 2001...2nd. However, Schumacher had almost twice as many points than him too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodders47 2 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 yes that is how I feel... Strange that he still has his seat. He was never to No.1 when Mika was there and is not No1 now evn though his standing with McLaren would place him that way. Kimi IS the better of the two no doubt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pumpdoc 2 Report post Posted July 13, 2003 personal observation; At the EGP the one time I saw both drivers there was one big diff DC had his handlers and what not-12/14 people groveling about, KR had aprox 6/8 people mostly eng/team personel and he looked more relaxed than DC who looked for all the world to be quite constipated, all laughs aside I figure DC will have a meltdown soon and go postal on KR----he's got to be ready to go to war with Finland----he has that look on his face that Mike Tyson had the first time he faced Buster Dougles and lost .......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodders47 2 Report post Posted July 14, 2003 well adding fuel to this fire is the latest from Bernie who seems to be suggesting that David MOVE to another team for his own good !!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nichosnz 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2003 RD and DC are far to comfortable with each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Param 0 Report post Posted July 16, 2003 Pumpdoc, thats probably the best thing I've heard about David Coulthard. Soon I think David will get really frustrated and he'll take all his anger out on Kimi (like you said he'll go postal on him, but a little less extreme). He'll probably become like Villenueve-A washout who can't keep his mouth shut and still thinks he can become a World Champion. But what I don't get is why Ron Dennis wouldn't want to get rid of David? If he can't produce then you dump him and get someone better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eff1 0 Report post Posted July 16, 2003 Now that David has been thoroughly upstaged by his far less experienced teammate, it is time for Ron to pick a new number 2, one that can give Mr. Raikonnen a bigger push. DC has aptly demonstrated an inconsistency that will never win him a WC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nichosnz 0 Report post Posted July 16, 2003 In fact those are the only two things he consistant at. Claiming that he can still do it, and proving to the world, in particular his team-mates (Hill, Hakkinen and Raikkonen), that he cannot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodders47 2 Report post Posted July 16, 2003 wow fighting words Nichos but very true. Isn't it funny when Kimi came on the scene EVERY driver thought that he just BOUGHT the drive!! I for one thought that also with such lack of Track time.. Guess this guy proved everyone WRONG in a big way !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pumpdoc 2 Report post Posted July 16, 2003 Talk has always been how F.W. is such a great talent spoter R D has nothing to be ashamed of KR once he has another yr or 2 under his belt if the car is right will be unbeatable and then the talk will be how boring the races are 'cuz KR will be on podiom all the time ala MS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Param 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2003 Well I don't think F1 will be boring in the future, especially with the potential guys like Alonso, Montoya, Button, or Webber have. I think the hunt for number one will hardly be out-weighed by just one driver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodders47 2 Report post Posted July 18, 2003 TRue Mark Weber sure has proved his worth, Montoya , well I'm not sure and as for Button ummmmmmm the Brits have their hopes pinned on him but I have a gut feeling he is not up to it Like Kimi is !!! Alonso sure has potential , my only feelings about Montoya is he IS a racer but maybe he overtaxes his machinery somewhat ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tracy@F1 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2003 Being a McLaren fan for years I always hoped DC would achieve well,I thought DC couldn't achieve his potential as a world champion driver, because he was forever in the shadow of a great driver Mika Hakkinen. However after Mika's sabbatical / retirement and the arrival of Kimi a relative new comer I thought DC would have increased confidence with his position within the McLaren team, Kimi when he joined McLaren seemed to jump into Mika's role! After DC's only win this season ,at Melbourne, Kimi has been the one for me with to watch at McLaren.Where has DC the Braveheart gone! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodders47 2 Report post Posted July 19, 2003 Hi Tracy and welcome to the forum. This is from D.C in a recent interview!! 'I don't shout my mouth off or slam the table like Nigel Mansell used to,' said DC. 'Maybe it's time to let it all out?' Um does that not seem like "Rattled Feathers" ??? Is a shame as I feel David is a winner !! just seems to have lost the edge lately Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2003 It is right what Ecclestone said last week,DC should go to another team,before he brokes down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nichosnz 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2003 Montoya , well I'm not sure and as for Button ummmmmmm the Brits have their hopes pinned on him but I have a gut feeling he is not up to it Like Kimi is !!!.....my only feelings about Montoya is he IS a racer but maybe he overtaxes his machinery somewhat ?? Ah, finally someone has similar feelings on Button to those I have, now I know I am not in a minority of one. And Montoya well again I have to agree. I cannot help feeling he is another Gilles Villeneuve or Jean Alesi, great to watch, invokes a lot of passion in fans, but doesn't quite get the best statisitcal record at the end of the career, however does leave us with a lot of enduring memories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2003 RD and DC are far to comfortable with each other. How do you know ?I have nowhere seen that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nichosnz 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Have you not, after years of lackluster seasons the fact DC still has a drive with McLaren must tell you something. And DC is quite content to stay where he is, as to be honest even if Ferrari and Williams were not full, Ferrari can see through DC and Williams did 8 years ago! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Param 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2003 I don't think DC may be too confident with his position right now. There was a report, not confirmed by McLaren, that McLaren is trying to capture Montoya away from Williams. If Montoya is lured away, that means Coulthard is out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodders47 2 Report post Posted July 29, 2003 yeah well that should SPARK up D.C. that's for sure ... Shame really as he is a likeable type of guy but this year he has not proven himself at all Apart from some very quick laps, but he dont appear to be able to sustain them !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pumpdoc 2 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 DC is like a beaten down dog, you just look at him wierd and he scoots off with his tail twixt his leeggs ears down going-arkarkarkarkark, when people come up behind him and touch his shoulder he jumps 6 ft in the air thinking it's Ron with the PINK SLIP. DC is so insecure that when his wench says I love you he thinks she's talking to someone else behind him. Why just the other day he saw an advert for HELP WANTED; need a ultra fast driver, able to get around twisty roads without going off pay comensurate w/experiance inq. WEST asap. it was just for a delivery boy !! Poor DC rumor has it that Monaco is ready to toss him out so as not to sully the good name of the Prince !!! Why just the other day he showed up for fitting of the seat for next yrs. car and non of the enginers knew who he was Just last week he saw Mika-n-Kimi in driver gear with Kimi talking in finnish and Mika nodding his head saying ya ya dats goot we'll place 1-2 at Hockinhiem and I'll make sure that nobody will know it's me driving, I'll just stand like a statue and they will think it's DC.hehehehehehe............ Don't you hate to kick a dog when it's down ?????????? NOT ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodders47 2 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 well what can anyone add to that?? D.C. aint All that bad mate he's just not turned on this year! I guess Kimi has"Ruffled his Feathers , somewhat " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nichosnz 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 Love it pumpdoc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
