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We have a long day of testing ... so i am expecting a good show from the RBR ... how'ever can i have the link of the live timing ? cause i just went into Jerez website and i can't yet find the live timing results

TripleR, try this link for the Jerez tests. The site in Dutch but the timings are self explanatory. BTW Massa is leading the day two of the testing.

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OMG, Mclaren's got worse,2nd red flag for fernando.

Ferrari and Massa on top!

Top 3 (laatste update: 15:24)

Coureur Team Chassis Laptime Verschil Laps

1 Felipe Massa Ferrari F2007 1:19.746 43

2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren MP4-22 1:19.821 + 0.075 79

3 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber F1.07 1:19.944 + 0.198 68

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Ferrari and Massa on top!

Top 3 (laatste update: 15:24)

Coureur Team Chassis Laptime Verschil Laps

1 Felipe Massa Ferrari F2007 1:19.746 43

2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren MP4-22 1:19.821 + 0.075 79

3 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber F1.07 1:19.944 + 0.198 68

all of a sudden, out of the blue, I think ferrari has played the heavy fuel game....

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Massa still continues now. LH has completed 109 Laps.

Coureur Team Chassis Laptime Verschil Laps

1 Felipe Massa Ferrari F2007 1:19.746 46

2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren MP4-22 1:19.821 + 0.075 109

3 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber F1.07 1:19.839 + 0.093 96

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Ferrari and McLaren are surely on heavy fuel loads when you compare their times to other teams', so any comparison between those two, or any others, is not very useful.

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Ferrari and McLaren are surely on heavy fuel loads when you compare their times to other teams', so any comparison between those two, or any others, is not very useful.

yes Ferrari are.... not Mclaren, they post their fast times on very light fuel... :D

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Massa leads the way at Jerez

Wednesday, February 7th 2007, 17:05 GMT

Ferrari's Felipe Massa was quickest on the second day of testing at the Jerez circuit, where eight Formula One team are carrying out their programmes this week.

The Brazilian driver, who yesterday was forced to miss the session after feeling unwell, returned to the c#ckpit of the Ferrari F2007 and emerged on top of the times with a best lap of 1:19.746.

Massa beat teammate Kimi Raikkonen by three tenths of a second after the Finn lost a big part of his day due to a mechanical problem and then poor weather, with rain hitting the track in the afternoon.

McLaren's Lewis Hamilton was second quickest, with teammate Fernando Alonso, who joined the test today, finishing as fourth fastest behind the BMW Sauber of Robert Kubica.

More to follow.

1. Massa Ferrari ( B) 1:19.746 46

2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes ( B) 1:19.821 109

3. Kubica BMW-Sauber ( B) 1:19.839 96

4. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes ( B) 1:20.046 101

5. Raikkonen Ferrari ( B) 1:20.068 46

6. Piquet Renault ( B) 1:20.070 76

7. Wurz Williams-Toyota ( B) 1:20.132 78

8. Rosberg Williams-Toyota ( B) 1:20.143 66

9. R.Schumacher Toyota ( B) 1:20.604 59

10. Webber Red Bull-Renault ( B) 1:20.629 36

11. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault ( B) 1:20.702 70

12. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber ( B) 1:20.710 80

13. Button Honda ( B) 1:20.751 100

14. Zonta Renault ( B) 1:20.767 86

15. Trulli Toyota ( B) 1:20.898 80

16. Andretti Honda ( B) 1:22.151 74

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1. Massa Ferrari ( B) 1:19.746 46

2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes ( B) 1:19.821 109

3. Kubica BMW-Sauber ( B) 1:19.839 96

4. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes ( B) 1:20.046 101

5. Raikkonen Ferrari ( B) 1:20.068 46

6. Piquet Renault ( B) 1:20.070 76

7. Wurz Williams-Toyota ( B) 1:20.132 78

8. Rosberg Williams-Toyota ( B) 1:20.143 66

9. R.Schumacher Toyota ( B) 1:20.604 59

10. Webber Red Bull-Renault ( B) 1:20.629 36

11. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault ( B) 1:20.702 70

12. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber ( B) 1:20.710 80

13. Button Honda ( B) 1:20.751 100

14. Zonta Renault ( B) 1:20.767 86

15. Trulli Toyota ( B) 1:20.898 80

16. Andretti Honda ( B) 1:22.151 74

So the order is

1. Ferrari

2. McLaren

3. BMW

4. Renault

5. Williams

6. Toyota

7. Red Bull

8. Honda

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1. Massa Ferrari ( B) 1:19.746 46

2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes ( B) 1:19.821 109

3. Kubica BMW-Sauber ( B) 1:19.839 96

4. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes ( B) 1:20.046 101

5. Raikkonen Ferrari ( B) 1:20.068 46

6. Piquet Renault ( B) 1:20.070 76

7. Wurz Williams-Toyota ( B) 1:20.132 78

8. Rosberg Williams-Toyota ( B) 1:20.143 66

9. R.Schumacher Toyota ( B) 1:20.604 59

10. Webber Red Bull-Renault ( B) 1:20.629 36

11. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault ( B) 1:20.702 70

12. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber ( B) 1:20.710 80

13. Button Honda ( B) 1:20.751 100

14. Zonta Renault ( B) 1:20.767 86

15. Trulli Toyota ( B) 1:20.898 80

16. Andretti Honda ( B) 1:22.151 74

I knew there'de be days like this, when our Wonderboy will beat Alonso... same for the races please!

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yes Ferrari are.... not Mclaren, they post their fast times on very light fuel... :D

Sure the one doing 46 laps in total and for the last 40 minutes did a whole 3 lap stint is on the heavy fuel while the other does 109 laps is on low fuel. Makes alot of sense that, if you completely reject reality. Whatever makes you feel better.

Here's something to think about, McLaren's are very competative on high fuel loads so they dont really gain major time advantages running low fuel so its pointless for testing when your trying to stress components with more then race conditions. McLaren has been very consistant with its runs and times so cant be on low fuel loads while we see Ferrari suddenly jump up the time's indicating they went low fuel atleast today and not really showing much advantage in pace for it, if they where low fuel before (they only did about half the laps McLarens would in most of the tests so far) then thats even worse for them.

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Here's something to think about, McLaren's are very competative on high fuel loads so they dont really gain major time advantages running low fuel.

:lol: What crud, every car gains time running on low fuel, otherwise there is something damn wrong with the car.

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Brad, I agree, Alonso should worry about his teammate before anything else. Someone could be in for a rude shock this year :D

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:lol: What crud, every car gains time running on low fuel, otherwise there is something damn wrong with the car.
gain major time

McLaren gains alot less by running on fumes then other cars, didnt say they dont gain any time. It's why they fuelled them heavy for qualifying in 2006 until they realised theres a bigger chance of an accident running slightly deeper down the field rather then right at the top.

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Massa above Kimi On the timesheet. i think due to the problem

F

errari finally returned to the top of the timesheets today, as Felipe Massa clocked a session-topping time of 1:19.746, putting the F2007 on top for the first time in its short history. On a day which saw rain in the afternoon, limiting meaningful track time for the teams, the Brazilian lapped less than a tenth faster than his nearest challenger, Lewis Hamilton, who finished on a time of 1:19.821.

Today was Massa's first day on track, due of a bout of the 'flu which ruled him out of the first day's action. Team-mate Kimi R

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Massa above Kimi On the timesheet. i think due to the problem

They've almost done the same number of laps though, gotta give it to Massa, lets see what Kimi can do today....

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They've almost done the same number of laps though, gotta give it to Massa, lets see what Kimi can do today....

but as i bolded the bit:- kimi did have a technical problem which cooled down his tyres...

i support both but i think kimi woul d have been closer

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Kimi needs a race to unleash his speed. Even if Massa gets the better of him in testing, it doesn't mean much. Kimi puts his heart into racing, not testing.

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Kimi needs a race to unleash his speed. Even if Massa gets the better of him in testing, it doesn't mean much. Kimi puts his heart into racing, not testing.

but a not very well tested car will not win the race. you pretty much need a personal perfect setup to win not Massa personal setup

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Kimi is still in the acclimatization stage of his Ferrari days remember. It's only testing his speed will come, don't you worry about that my friends.

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Kimi is still in the acclimatization stage of his Ferrari days remember. It's only testing his speed will come, don't you worry about that my friends.

i agree

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