ykickamoocow 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 I dont know wheather to believe you or not but i am certain it was really just a racing incident. All drivers have/cause accidents in their careers and it amazes me that so many people are attacking Coulthard for having a crash which is a common occurance in formula 1. If you dont like seeing crashes go watch lawn bowls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jem of the Shire 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 I am sure williams, and Wurz's family wouldn't have said that if the accident had proved more tragic. DC needs to be more careful he is too experienced to make newboy errors like that omg everyone is exaggerating sooo much, these types of accidents happen all the time. For the incident to have been tragic, DC would have had to have hit Wurz level with Wurz's head, which would have meant hitting his sidepod, which would've pitched Wurz into a spin, DC wouldnt have gone over the Williams. everyone stop being so melodramatic, yes it was a stupid attempt from a long way back but there are people saying 'DC should retire', which is just pathetic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jem of the Shire 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 remember Sato's move on Schuey at Spa 05? Or Damon Hill's attempt to pass Schuey silverstone 95? Should those drivers be banned from the sport? Of course not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ykickamoocow 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 remember Sato's move on Schuey at Spa 05? Or Damon Hill's attempt to pass Schuey silverstone 95? Should those drivers be banned from the sport? Of course not I also dont recall anyone calling for Schumacher to retire when he hit Coulthard at Monaco in 2005. That was clearly driver error so by the logic of some people on this forum Schumacher should have retired in 2005 and any driver who causes a accident should be banned from driving a formula 1 car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jem of the Shire 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 yes its sad and i'm surprised to be honest at the ridiculous reaction. Think how many times we've seen drivers being hit up the inside in a misjudged overtaking attempt, its a common error, we're just not used to seeing it from DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 I dont know wheather to believe you or not but i am certain it was really just a racing incident. All drivers have/cause accidents in their careers and it amazes me that so many people are attacking Coulthard for having a crash which is a common occurance in formula 1. If you dont like seeing crashes go watch lawn bowls. Where am I attacking Coulthard? I pointed out your error and instead of admitting it (like DC has his) you instead infer that I would blatently lie about something (as this is the second time I've brought it to your attention), just to 'discredit' DC. It's strange when some people can't win an argument they have to try and devalue the other person's opinion as lesser than your own. Fact: DC's own opinion of his incident is more valid than yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 remember Sato's move on Schuey at Spa 05? Or Damon Hill's attempt to pass Schuey silverstone 95? Should those drivers be banned from the sport? Of course not Neither of those were attempted moves, they were drivers who broke slightly late in the rain. (I agree with your point on DC though, just neither of your comparisons were attempted passes) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jem of the Shire 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 Neither of those were attempted moves, they were drivers who broke slightly late in the rain.(I agree with your point on DC though, just neither of your comparisons were attempted passes) silverstone 95 was dry and an attempted overtake, i'm sure there are several more examples, just not popping into my head right now. But you see my point, its a common mistake when trying to overtake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 Are you sure Silverstone 95 was bone dry? I recall the move you are talking about in the last sector (I don't know the names of all the gay turns at that place... its after the fast sweeping turn in S3) I recall it being wet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jem of the Shire 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 Are you sure Silverstone 95 was bone dry? I recall the move you are talking about in the last sector (I don't know the names of all the gay turns at that place... its after the fast sweeping turn in S3)I recall it being wet. im pretty sure it was dry, Hill took a wild lunge from way back, up the inside of Schuey. He didnt slide on rain or anything like that, he just went into the side of MS & it was a silly move, but like I say it happens all the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane2 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 omg everyone is exaggerating sooo much, these types of accidents happen all the time. For the incident to have been tragic, DC would have had to have hit Wurz level with Wurz's head, which would have meant hitting his sidepod, which would've pitched Wurz into a spin, DC wouldnt have gone over the Williams.everyone stop being so melodramatic, yes it was a stupid attempt from a long way back but there are people saying 'DC should retire', which is just pathetic Did you SEE how close the side of DC's car was to hitting wurz? all it needed was another few inches Where am I attacking Coulthard? I pointed out your error and instead of admitting it (like DC has his) you instead infer that I would blatently lie about something (as this is the second time I've brought it to your attention), just to 'discredit' DC.It's strange when some people can't win an argument they have to try and devalue the other person's opinion as lesser than your own. Fact: DC's own opinion of his incident is more valid than yours. I didn't think DC had caused that error. What program was that aired on, I would like to listen to DC's comments, I believe I should have the reviews at hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 ITV season review 2005 I believe, I recorded it so I can write a transcript when I am less busy (4 deadlines in the space of 2 days). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane2 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 Yikes, good luck with that I shall give it a watch later, I have it on my hard disk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tvbf1 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 Why dont you think before you post. It was reported that Webber was suffering a sticky throttle and also had massive understeer. Ohhh so it was sticky throttle and MASSIVE UNDERSTEER that caused him to spun out in the pitlane entry. Silly me, I thought it was his driving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane2 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 He went slightly wide and put his wheel on the grass. With a handling problem that would be enough to make a car spin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2007 Ohhh so it was sticky throttle and MASSIVE UNDERSTEER that caused him to spun out in the pitlane entry. Silly me, I thought it was his driving. The spin wasn't the cause of him losing so much time, as he lost it before, in his first stop when the fuel flap would not open. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crackerz 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2007 MS did plenty of dangerous things in his career, and people still want to suck him off. For the record... I Crackerz , being of sound mind and spirit, ..... do NOT wish to suck off Michael Schumacher. Just wanted to clear that up. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted March 23, 2007 Ohhh so it was sticky throttle and MASSIVE UNDERSTEER that caused him to spun out in the pitlane entry. Silly me, I thought it was his driving. Anything DC can do, Webbo can do better...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ykickamoocow 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2007 Anything DC can do, Webbo can do better...... Thats not what the lap times indicated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2007 So how come Webber was 7th before his problems and DC wasn't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ykickamoocow 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2007 So how come Webber was 7th before his problems and DC wasn't? DC had a terrible qualifying session and for the first part of the race he was stuck behind Button. In the 2nd stint Coulthards lap times were faster than the Toyota's and Renault's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2007 DC had a terrible qualifying session and for the first part of the race he was stuck behind Button. In the 2nd stint Coulthards lap times were faster than the Toyota's and Renault's. Terrible because? DC messed up. So his own problem that he was stuck behind Button. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ykickamoocow 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2007 Terrible because? DC messed up.So his own problem that he was stuck behind Button. We dont know he messed up. If there was dirt on the track during his lap then that would have easily slowed him down and would have prevented him reaching the next stage. You cannot compare Coulthard and Webber based on one qualifying session. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted March 23, 2007 Anything DC can do, Webbo can do better...... For clarification, I meant falling off in the pit lane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2007 We dont know he messed up. If there was dirt on the track during his lap then that would have easily slowed him down and would have prevented him reaching the next stage. You cannot compare Coulthard and Webber based on one qualifying session. So you can use just one stint in one race to compare them, but I can't use a qualifying session. A stint when you don't know relative fuel loads, whereas in qualifying 1, they will have similar loads. Interesting. Then again, when you can't win an argument you just call the poster you are discussing something with untrustworthy, huh? Don't know why I bothered trying again when it comes to DC and you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
